Well I have to say I'm disappointed in one of your members this evening, flying (SR~Adorra.Vigil
While the 141|, [UC], [TAZ] and CR| were having an in-game meeting regarding the Fallen Grace RP, I received a PM from him, after looking at the player list and looking for some kills:
Quote:[25.08.2012 22:01:11] (SR~Adorra.Vigil: // 141-orders?
[25.08.2012 22:02:14] CR|-Intuition: //It's an in-game meeting, just some RP
[25.08.2012 22:02:58] (SR~Adorra.Vigil: // aah... i was hoping for killing some of them
[25.08.2012 22:03:07] CR|-Intuition: //Please don't interrupt :P
[25.08.2012 22:04:29] (SR~Adorra.Vigil: // well... u know Adorra, she gotta peak a nose in every kind of interesting thing ;)
Thinking that we'd be left to our own devices, we get a fair bit through the meeting before we find that he's decided to come to Baffin anyway:
Quote:[25.08.2012 22:19:27] 141|Interceptor-2: //SR in Baffin too..stupid metagamers
[25.08.2012 22:19:52] CR|-Intuition: //Or just go on and interrupt the meeting...
[25.08.2012 22:20:20] (SR~Adorra.Vigil: // and what is ur possition?
[25.08.2012 22:20:57] CR|-Intuition: //Hopefully we can remain away from you and get on with our RP
[25.08.2012 22:21:20] (SR~Adorra.Vigil: // good luck with that, i will find you ;)
[25.08.2012 22:21:40] CR|-Intuition: //And why would you be in Baffin anyway?
and after a long search finds us:
Quote:[25.08.2012 22:35:24] CR|-Intuition: Well aren't you out of your way Raider...
[25.08.2012 22:35:31] 141|Ares: A Samarran Raider.
[25.08.2012 22:35:39] (SR~Adorra.Vigil: Told ya im gonna find you
[25.08.2012 22:35:50] CR|-Intuition: I have received no such comunication.
[25.08.2012 22:36:27] 141|Interceptor-2: And what do you want to do now?
[25.08.2012 22:36:27] CR|-Intuition: I'd have thought you would be too busy worshipping the Nomads in Outcast space?
[25.08.2012 22:36:43] (SR~Adorra.Vigil: Well.. Pretend you did
[25.08.2012 22:36:52] [UC]-Casimir.Logarus: 'Pretend'?
[25.08.2012 22:36:55] CR|-Intuition: Silly assumptions as always...
[25.08.2012 22:37:01] [UC]-Casimir.Logarus: That is a most odd thing to ask of someone.
[25.08.2012 22:37:14] CR|-Intuition: The Samarrans are an odd group Logarus.
[25.08.2012 22:37:30] [UC]-Casimir.Logarus: Good point.
[25.08.2012 22:37:33] 141|Interceptor-2: Odd does not even explain at best what zhey are.
[25.08.2012 22:37:54] CR|-Intuition: Imagine claiming to come from outside Sirius, must be mad.
[25.08.2012 22:38:33] (SR~Adorra.Vigil: // btw i have some enormous lag,my msg's late about 20 seconds
[25.08.2012 22:38:43] CR|-Intuition: //So why not just leave then?
[25.08.2012 22:38:57] (SR~Adorra.Vigil: // so i can annoy u
[25.08.2012 22:39:13] 141|Ares: His systems are malfunction, I can't encode his messages.
[25.08.2012 22:39:17] [UC]-Casimir.Logarus: Monsieur Cole, may you please escort that vessel out?
[25.08.2012 22:39:19] 141|Interceptor-2: Neither can I.
[25.08.2012 22:39:28] CR|-Intuition: The usual static I assume.
[25.08.2012 22:39:38] 141|Interceptor-2: But, Aaron, remember, we are talking about Samarrans.
[25.08.2012 22:39:43] CR|-Intuition: Might be these "Scrubbies.
[25.08.2012 22:39:49] 141|Ares: I'm pretty sure, that he asked us for the way out of Baffin.
[25.08.2012 22:39:57] 141|Interceptor-2: Most likely.
[25.08.2012 22:40:16] [TAZ]Constantine: Richard:Cpt of the (SR Adorra please leave this system.
[25.08.2012 22:40:18] CR|-Intuition: There's a secret exit, about 500M from the sun.
[25.08.2012 22:40:24] 141|Ares: Do-you-need-an-escort-to-Conorado?
[25.08.2012 22:40:39] CR|-Intuition: I'd appreciate you not bringing him to Coronado.
[25.08.2012 22:40:51] (SR~Adorra.Vigil: *Laugh* i - aint - leaving - nowhere - son
[25.08.2012 22:41:00] [TAZ]Constantine: Richard: follow me i will escort you out hope it will comply piecefully
[25.08.2012 22:41:34] [TAZ]Constantine: Richard: as i may uphold the pentabarf in here
[25.08.2012 22:42:53] 141|Ares: His ship does move quite weird. I wonder if he's conscious.
[25.08.2012 22:43:24] 141|Interceptor-2: Might be some influence from cardamine. Or nomads.
[25.08.2012 22:43:40] 141|Ares: They do eat Nomads? Disturbing.
[25.08.2012 22:43:42] (SR~Adorra.Vigil: It can be, who knows
[25.08.2012 22:43:53] (SR~Adorra.Vigil: Naaah, we dont
[25.08.2012 22:44:03] 141|Interceptor-2: Actually, zhey try to kiss zhe back of nomads *laughes*
[25.08.2012 22:44:31] 141|Ares: Are you saying, that they... *stops talking* Oh my...
[25.08.2012 22:44:46] 141|Interceptor-2: Nun, what did you think?
[25.08.2012 22:44:49] (SR~Adorra.Vigil: You better watch your mouth scumbag
[25.08.2012 22:45:08] 141|Ares: How disrespectful.
[25.08.2012 22:45:13] (SR~Adorra.Vigil: And TAZ
[25.08.2012 22:45:19] 141|Ares: I'm here as guest. What about you?
[25.08.2012 22:45:33] (SR~Adorra.Vigil: You will not be on Sammarans friend list anymore
[25.08.2012 22:45:43] CR|-Intuition: Oh my.
[25.08.2012 22:45:56] CR|-Intuition: You'll take us off your Sirius Day card list next...
[25.08.2012 22:46:01] 141|Interceptor-2: Hmm, interesting to hear zhis.
[25.08.2012 22:46:14] 141|Interceptor-2: Threatening zoners in zheir own home...*shakes head*
[25.08.2012 22:46:29] (SR~Adorra.Vigil: Just saying
[25.08.2012 22:46:48] 141|Interceptor-2: Anyway, I have no time for zhis nonsense.
[25.08.2012 22:47:12] [TAZ]Constantine: Richard:I am asking myself why i don't destroy you on the spot. as trying to herras people in here
[25.08.2012 22:47:33] (SR~Adorra.Vigil: So, how many of you need to take me out? *She smiles*
[25.08.2012 22:48:25] 141|Ares: Another overdosis of your junkstuff will do.
[25.08.2012 22:48:51] (SR~Adorra.Vigil: So, all order pilots here can take me out eh?
[[25.08.2012 22:49:09] (SR~Adorra.Vigil: Come one.... Pick one
[25.08.2012 22:49:16] (SR~Adorra.Vigil: Any of you
[25.08.2012 22:49:40] 141|Interceptor-2: And riks zhe wrath of zhe Zoners hier? No way. Maybe you should read zhe rules of Baffin, Samarran..If you can read.
[25.08.2012 22:49:41] [TAZ]Constantine: Richard: hope you will think about your behaving.
[25.08.2012 22:50:28] 141|Interceptor-2: Aaron, #9, you will only defend yourselves. No agressive actions from you.
[25.08.2012 22:50:48] (SR~Adorra.Vigil: *Laugh* oh yea?
[25.08.2012 22:50:50] 141|Ares: We didn't got here to insult their hospitality by showing aggressive behavior.
[25.08.2012 22:53:21] 141|Interceptor-2: Aaron, #9. It is time to continue...Leave zhis little stupid in space.
[25.08.2012 22:53:31] CR|-Intuition: The idiot can knock on the station's docking bays if he wants to talk to us.
[25.08.2012 22:53:43] 141|Ares: Ok. *requests to dock*
[25.08.2012 22:54:03] CR|-Intuition: Retribution, land again.
[25.08.2012 22:54:11] CR|-Retribution[17th]: Copy that.
Rather than fight a laggy metagamer, we all docked. The meeting will have to be done on Skype now.
There was some ooRP local chat about the lag which is fair enough, but his intentions were made clear enough with this little snippet.
I have another little issue, I'd like to hear your opinion about:
3 of 141| (2 bombers, 1 Onuris) were chasing an indi Core Mako from Zeta to Delta. In Delta, one of you (who launched from Omicron Delta btw, since when is this your base of operations?) flew to us.
After some RP with us while we fought that Mako, you engaged us and even OFFERED help to the Core Indy?
I mean, you declare to be allied with nomads, thus the order is hostile to you. Okay, np with that.
But what about Core? They hunt and kill nomads, too, still you do not consider them as enemies to you?
Quite odd. And regarding this situation, also just a poor form of you to get a blue message.
Oh, btw, here are 2 screens of evidence in case you do not believe my words:
' Wrote:I have another little issue, I'd like to hear your opinion about:
3 of 141| (2 bombers, 1 Onuris) were chasing an indi Core Mako from Zeta to Delta. In Delta, one of you (who launched from Omicron Delta btw, since when is this your base of operations?) flew to us.
After some RP with us while we fought that Mako, you engaged us and even OFFERED help to the Core Indy?
I mean, you declare to be allied with nomads, thus the order is hostile to you. Okay, np with that.
But what about Core? They hunt and kill nomads, too, still you do not consider them as enemies to you?
Quite odd. And regarding this situation, also just a poor form of you to get a blue message.
Oh, btw, here are 2 screens of evidence in case you do not believe my words:
Nope. The Onuris was killed by Jared. You got an extra fighter, a neph.
I arrived way too late there. Still, I managed to catch and lure your Neph. Who was being pretty much killed. Exactly 2 minutes and 54 seconds after the beginning, 1 77th dessie, 1 LN dread (DON'T ASK ME HOW OR WHY) and 1 BHG bomber showed up from nowhere and started to shoot me. I may even bother to look for the logs, as it's funny.
Kinda odd, the same faction that you were shooting at shows up on the perfect moment to assist you.
And. I wouldn't call a poor form to get a blue fighting against 4 ships, but oh well, Jared is like that I guess. Please, do not despreciate yourself and your mates that much, you make him look way too badass.
(06-19-2016, 12:06 PM)Mao Wrote: inb4 Sirius gets renamed to XTF.
Yep, our Onuris was killed by Jarek, sorry, had forgotten that.
But that is not what I am referring to: You as unlawfuls are assisting lawfuls to shoot order. Really, this is quite a strange situation, actually your guy should just have sit there and watch as both of his sworn enemies try to kill each other. Instead, you help a Core Mako? To my opinion you should have a look at your diplomacy again, because the Core should be listed to hostile for you as well.
Moreover, you should remember you are using the pirate ID which means you just see any lawful as a combat target if you want without making a demand. This was one of those situations, there have been other situations like that in the past already.
Yes, I know, inRP it does not fit the Samarran Raiders, but if you cannot stick to your ID rules, I suggest you have look for another ID, that is currently available.
And about the Core arriving: Nope neither of us had "called any help" from them. Moreover the 77th Thresher tried to get me near Zeta jumphole as well, but I was able to get away from him. I still have 2 screens that prove this in case those are needed.
*EDIT*
Moreover, I need to say something regarding that meeting in Baffin. As already said, we were there for making the Fallen Grace event move forward. Your SR player was just there to hunt us. What is strange is, he did not try to attack us, rather provoke us 141| to go hunt him. Problem is: Order cannot hunt pirates outside Omicrons and Omegas, thus we had rulewise no reason to engage first.
Gentlemen. I will be short, since I am not sober, I will try to explain it best and fast - I sicerely i dont care if you will untderstand (smoke).
So, Omicron Dela situation:
Quote: one of you (who launched from Omicron Delta btw, since when is this your base of operations?) flew to us.
Base of Operations? Well, since Zoners and Nomads/Keppers are green only Omicrons, we use any zoner base, to land there.
It does not needs to be our base of operations so I could land there and log out and later, log in again.
Why I helped Core ID'd Mako? Gentlemen, both Samarran and K'Hara knows who shoots us more, Core or Order.
Anyay, both of them are enemies to them but, Jared felt sad about Mako being ganked by 3 141| bombers.
Why? We dont have so much interaction with Core members, we dont even know on their stance, maybe they will hunt us because of some bounty contract, maybe they wont. Just my good will that day.
Now as for Baffin situation, as a leader I will explain you stuff again.
As first, we do see Zoners as peaceful people and we also respect other religion that they have.
We also respect Baffin rules, to some limit. - we dont realy care about it, if TAZ wants it, they will get on our unfriendly list- K'Hara would might consider (inrp) to leave you alive because, we dont hunt you.
Note that we never but never opened fire on single Zoner vessel
K'Hara will also consider how we see some people/individuals and might treat them as we do (friendly/unfriendly)
So, as our aliance is strong, and many of us see Nomads as gods, we will do what they want (also inrp)
What you've planned to do there, I dont care. People have right to go where they want (inrp and with respecting of ZOI)
I also do-not-care if you are dissapointed about my member of whole Samarran Raider group, Mister Booyah in this case did nothing, just provoked like boss with RP and waited for you to open fire on him - fair enough. - No need to cry about it.
Or you want me to start spammig CR| =CR= Order| 141| IMG| feedbacks because, we've got 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 times ganked by whole capital fleets and snubs, when we raided with just 4-5 Sabres.
But yo- I dont really care about gank, those fleets fail upon mighty Sabres.
And a note again for Delta situation- I didnt opened fir first.
putted *Powers up weapons" line after RP line have came between me and 141| and did shot once or twice only near your ships, not on you directly, just to make sure that Lifght Fighter which escorted you, will open fire on me.
Regards.
edit: And
Quote:While the 141|, [UC], [TAZ] and CR|
- I think that this was pretty interesting for everyone on our side.
Order Task Group, Unione Corse (?), TAZ and Colonial Remnant together.
Oh oh and, have you ever seen me even once to QQ on someone's feedback? Never, stop doing it please, I am lazy to write stuff for nothing.
Thank you for your feedback anyways.
<"From Darkness, lead me to Light. From Ignorance, to Truth. From Death, to Immortality.">
Quote:I also do-not-care if you are dissapointed about my member of whole Samarran Raider group, Mister Booyah in this case did nothing, just provoked like boss with RP and waited for you to open fire on him - fair enough. - No need to cry about it.
That's a rather poor excuse. You as the leader should care about the actions of your members, which in this case were in a bad form. You can clearly see on the shown evidence that he obviously has some personal grudges against these factions or that his attitude is simply not... the best. Also, provoking with RP? What I see here is someone saying stuff oorply. Maybe you should get sober so that you can see what your member actually did.
Your member should learn to respect other players. They kindly asked him not to interrupt, but instead of listening he did this entire oorp thing. Which not only destroyed their event, but also left a bad feedback as result.
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