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[Reptile]

Is Maggelan system of Corsairs ZOI?

as i remembeer they attacking bretonians in Cambridge and New london,they cant get even normal to Leeds because there Mollys stopping them or BAF.What can we say about Maggelan - this is far system even for border system of Corsair ZOI.
They starting shot there ships,is it allowed?

I think if they will open fire there - this is mean that they will not be neutral with liberty anymore,liberty not need Corsairs front near their borders.

As i can imagine - Corsairs cant get there and fight,so i think this is was OORP attack in Maggelan. I didnt find any argumentation why\how they can be there.

What is your opinion\rule?
thank you.

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[Echo 7-7]

Magellan is outside of Corsair ZoI. They do not even have any allies in the region, and most of the jump holes are controlled by their enemies.

Edit: the rules do not stop Corsairs from traveling there, but they may not attack/pirate.

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[Lumik]

The answer can be partially found in Corsair laws I believe (which are applied to all Corsairs):

11. Corsair ships must not enter Liberty, Kusari or the Tau Systems, except under the following conditions;

• The mission has been approved by a Council Elder or deputy.
  
  
• The Corsair is smuggling, or is a fighter/bomber escorting smugglers. (lawful forces must be avoided)
  

IV. Laws and regulations for Warship** Captains (articles 18 to 21)

18. Behavior of a warship captain must be befitting of such a vessel. Appropriate behavior for a warship captain excludes:

20. Warship captains must not take their ship outside core Corsair territory*** unless;

• They are accompanied by a balanced fleet, with at least as many fighters and bombers as there are warships.
  
  
• Their operation has received the approval of a Council Elder or one of their deputies.
  
  *** "Core corsair territory" refers to the systems of Omicron Gamma, Omicron Theta, Omicron Lambda, Omicron Eta (south of minefield), Omicron 91, Omicron 93, Omicron 94, Omicron 96, Omega 5, Omega 41, Omega 47, Omega 49 and Omega 50.

I understand from this that Magellan is out of action for capital ships. Not sure about fighters, I saw them pirating here in the past. Speaking about how they can get here, simply using gates from New London and Manchester (all armies use enemy jump gates sometimes be it RM, LN, GRN or BAF).

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[Reptile]

I dont care how they get there.

They fighting there,they cant go there by RP, because all way was blocked by their enemies - Mollys, LH, OC, LR, GRN, BAF, BPA.
Yes,they can go everywhere like every player, but cannot pew,this is not their ZOI. This is same with Maggelan,they not allowed fight there.

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~Please leave this community, please. You'd be doing everyone a favour.
~Nikita. Please. Go play sims.
~Nikita, stop acting like that... you are just embarrassing yourself.
~Your way to win may be within rules, but you still break Rule 0.0 be excellent to eachother.
~but please just keep it to the Russian Discord chats and off the forums. We're tired of reading it.
then you will see 70 players online in this way. -me
2012©
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[Echo 7-7]

The answer can be partially found in Corsair laws I believe (which are applied to all Corsairs):

11. Corsair ships must not enter Liberty, Kusari or the Tau Systems, except under the following conditions;

• The mission has been approved by a Council Elder or deputy.
  
  
• The Corsair is smuggling, or is a fighter/bomber escorting smugglers. (lawful forces must be avoided)
  

IV. Laws and regulations for Warship** Captains (articles 18 to 21)

18. Behavior of a warship captain must be befitting of such a vessel. Appropriate behavior for a warship captain excludes:

20. Warship captains must not take their ship outside core Corsair territory*** unless;

• They are accompanied by a balanced fleet, with at least as many fighters and bombers as there are warships.
  
  
• Their operation has received the approval of a Council Elder or one of their deputies.
  
  *** "Core corsair territory" refers to the systems of Omicron Gamma, Omicron Theta, Omicron Lambda, Omicron Eta (south of minefield), Omicron 91, Omicron 93, Omicron 94, Omicron 96, Omega 5, Omega 41, Omega 47, Omega 49 and Omega 50.

I understand from this that Magellan is out of action for capital ships. Not sure about fighters, I saw them pirating here in the past. Speaking about how they can get here, simply using gates from New London and Manchester (all armies use enemy jump gates sometimes be it RM, LN, GRN or BAF).

Pirates using Gates is quite different to invading militaries. Not comparable. Using Gates as a pirate is heavily in the region of metagaming.

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[Reptile]

Magellan is outside of Corsair ZoI. They do not even have any allies in the region, and most of the jump holes are controlled by their enemies.

Edit: the rules do not stop Corsairs from traveling there, but they may not attack/pirate.

so this is against the rules? That they start shot near IMG freeport?

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~Nikita. Please. Go play sims.
~Nikita, stop acting like that... you are just embarrassing yourself.
~Your way to win may be within rules, but you still break Rule 0.0 be excellent to eachother.
~but please just keep it to the Russian Discord chats and off the forums. We're tired of reading it.
then you will see 70 players online in this way. -me
2012©
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[Lumik]

Pirates using Gates is quite different to invading militaries. Not comparable. Using Gates as a pirate is heavily in the region of metagaming.

By this logic, almost all unlawfuls can´t use gates. It make sense theoretically but...I can´t imagine any unlawfuls which are not using gates so they have to fly to jump holes all the time. I will try to say that next time when I will see LR/RHA/Blood Dragons/pirate IDed players do that

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[Reptile]

Pirates using Gates is quite different to invading militaries. Not comparable. Using Gates as a pirate is heavily in the region of metagaming.

By this logic, almost all unlawfuls can´t use gates. It make sense theoretically but...I can´t imagine any unlawfuls which are not using gates so they have to fly to jump holes all the time. I will try to say that next time when I will see LR/RHA/Blood Dragons/pirate IDed players do that

We talking about ZOI of Corsairs and their aggression in Maggelan.Not about the gates.

Please do another topic and write it there.

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Wrote:
~Please leave this community, please. You'd be doing everyone a favour.
~Nikita. Please. Go play sims.
~Nikita, stop acting like that... you are just embarrassing yourself.
~Your way to win may be within rules, but you still break Rule 0.0 be excellent to eachother.
~but please just keep it to the Russian Discord chats and off the forums. We're tired of reading it.
then you will see 70 players online in this way. -me
2012©
RNC|MND-Gepard

[Reid]

Corsairs cannot begin a fight in Magellan because it is not in their ZOI.

Anything initiating combat outside of their ZOI is a sanctionable offence.

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[Echo 7-7]

Magellan is outside of Corsair ZoI. They do not even have any allies in the region, and most of the jump holes are controlled by their enemies.

Edit: the rules do not stop Corsairs from traveling there, but they may not attack/pirate.

so this is against the rules? That they start shot near IMG freeport?

Let me check the Corsair ID...

Pirates using Gates is quite different to invading militaries. Not comparable. Using Gates as a pirate is heavily in the region of metagaming.

By this logic, almost all unlawfuls can´t use gates. It make sense theoretically but...I can´t imagine any unlawfuls which are not using gates so they have to fly to jump holes all the time. I will try to say that next time when I will see LR/RHA/Blood Dragons/pirate IDed players do that

Some sacrifices are made on a daily basis in order to increase interaction/activity. Trying to rules-lawyer every pirate you see won't get you very far, hut if you are aware of the tactics they use, then you can prepare your own tactics to counter or avoid them.

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