K'hara and Indie Nomad ID changes

[Tunicle]

Just for clarity, this area is being discussed but the silent engaging was not the root of the complaints, in many situations this fits.

The root problem was the decloaking and instakilling without anybody having a chance to react. If this happens with other ID's and a complaint is made then the sanction can use rule 3.1.

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[Pavel]

We are discussing extending cloak changes to everyone.
Wilde was proposed to be included in this change, but the Admin Team decided it'd be unfair for that faction, since it wasn't abusing their cloaks lately.
This is not the right place, but answering earlier question we'll think about adding Tohoku to Indie Nom ID. Make a separate thread about that though.

Edit: Tunicle is ninja
We'll look into Order* and Core silent engaging Nomads.

[Swallow]

Can it be done in an old-fashion terrorist SRP ID? I am hesitating to say that silent engagement is ooRP action when it is not abused and done right.

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[Doria]

I don't wanna say "I told ya" but...

[Moberg]

Just for clarity, this area is being discussed but the silent engaging was not the root of the complaints, in many situations this fits.

The root problem was the decloaking and instakilling without anybody having a chance to react.If this happens with other ID's and a complaint is made then the sanction can use rule 3.1.

Is it really lack of chance to react, or loss of awareness due to playing in silence or alternatively, lack of awareness?
Sure, in my opinion the Nomad RP of kill everything has been overused recently but saying the victims didn't have a chance to react is denial in its purest form. If you are still standing around the moment the Nomad has recharged energy and uncloaks, you deserve the death. I have died to an attack like that once, now I have the game sound louder and my music more silent. Have I died to a cloak attack since then? No.

Though I still died in the fight that commenced (

[Connor]

The root problem was the decloaking and instakilling without anybody having a chance to react. If this happens with other ID's and a complaint is made then the sanction can use rule 3.1.

If that's the case then every ID needs to be changed in accordance to this then since this happens a lot with other ids. Not just the Nomad ID.

And let's be honest, this was only caused because of the change of leadership and said person handing our Marduks like there's no tomorrow.

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[Lythrilux]

Edit: Tunicle is ninja
We'll look into Order* and Core silent engaging Nomads.

Should be removed tbh. I don't really think either faction needs to be encouraged to silently engage things (the green message also stated they could both silently engage each other). Omicrons might be a PvP orientated environment but discouraging people from at least making engagement notices is neither great nor does it set a good example.

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[Mephistoles]

The root problem was the decloaking and instakilling without anybody having a chance to react. If this happens with other ID's and a complaint is made then the sanction can use rule 3.1.

Is RPing while cloaked and firing immediately on decloak against the rules?

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[Antonio]

It's not against the rules, as long as the RP lasted for long enough to give the target enough reaction time.

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[Jack_Henderson]

The root of the problem is permacloak equipment and the unilateral power to decide when you want to interact and when not.
The rule change is necessary, but only treats symptoms.
The source of the problem is in cloak mechanisms that need to be revisited to promote interaction and not limit it.

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