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Shelco · 11-11-2017, 11:03 PM,

I'm not going to discuss anything not related to the issue I've begun with. I want this toxicity coming from your side to stop so that ours cannot even become as toxic. So we're both improving, is that a deal? Also, stop trying to dig out things from a year ago in an attempt to use them as arguments. The page isn't stolen and it never was either but since you love taking up things from the past, here's what I wrote about it.

(01-18-2017, 10:12 PM)Shelco Wrote: Hey hey, before you go on Wesker, he did not do the table, I did, I am talking to Skynet and since the tables indeed do look that similar (which is barely possible in another way displaying 3 columns xD) we'll change it.

EDIT: Alright @SkyNet said he wants me to change it, which I will do of course, we'll change it a bit until Skynet is also fine with it.

And as you can see, everything was made to please Skynet's interests 10 months ago.

See you ingame, buh-bye.

Emperor Tekagi · (This post was last modified: 11-11-2017, 11:29 PM by Emperor Tekagi.)

Guys, guys. No need to escalate stuff between you two. Both have potential to create lots of fun stuff for all sides involved,
so stop making bad blood, calm down and Stop advertising factions in other faction's feedback threads.

Drakaisyl · 01-12-2018, 05:34 PM,

Hi there,

sadly I must say at least one of your member who flys the BDM|Panzerschreck seems to be eager for blue messages. As I was having a nice RP with an [RM] Member which took some time to type,all your guy contributed to that RP and I quote from the Logfile,cutting out the parts regarding the RP with the [RM] but will include it if wished:

[11.01.2018 20:47:18] BDM|Panzerschreck: With that armed warship
[11.01.2018 20:49:50] BDM|Panzerschreck: Well?
[11.01.2018 20:50:25] BDM|Panzerschreck: Well i would advise you to follow the laws or you will feel pain
[11.01.2018 20:50:40] BDM|Panzerschreck: Dont waste my time with this
[11.01.2018 20:50:43] BDM|Panzerschreck: Follow our orders
[11.01.2018 20:50:47] BDM|Panzerschreck: Or get destroyed
[11.01.2018 20:51:25] BDM|Panzerschreck: Last chance...
[11.01.2018 20:51:32] BDM|Panzerschreck: Ober the laws
[11.01.2018 20:55:59] BDM|Panzerschreck: powering up

It's not nice that you have to fear to be destroyed in the middle of RP because of something like that.

I hope the next encounter with one or more of you guys is more pleasant than this one.

Neraxon · 05-11-2018, 09:09 PM,

It's nice to see you are active, but it next time pls clean up what is left and don't interfere in an event.

Geoffacake · (This post was last modified: 05-11-2018, 09:42 PM by Geoffacake.)

(05-11-2018, 09:09 PM)Neraxon Wrote: It's nice to see you are active, but it next time pls clean up what is left and don't interfere in an event.

I'll quote what I've explained before in private as to save my fingers.

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pre-engagement logs

I was probably trying to make a physical point by being there, the event wasn't FR4'ed and my attendance was still allowed. I get there might of been an attack on Vierlande by the Bunschuh in roleplay, but i think using that as an excuse to ensure that lawfuls wouldn't be present in such an area is a little far fetched. Not to mention that any lawful force didn't get an consultation prior to the event either. I was probably making a stance by being physically present, although I did enjoy the fact that Unioners didn't complain ooRP'ly and decided to deal with my presence inRP'ly and on hand.

I've already had people complain that I brought a gunboat, noted I got killed in my gunboat, and proceeded to rub it in my face that I was killed by a group of snubs in my gunboat. My point was reinforced when I was easily dealt with by a large group of snubs.

Heres some discord feedback responses i gave on the issue, take it how you will:

Discord logs

Nika · 05-11-2018, 09:47 PM,

Let me clarify something concerning the facts stated above - you were wrecked not because you were going to face a clearly overwhelming force or because you were showing off and pretending it to be a bold move. You got wrecked because you came in a gunboat and was clearly going to interfere the event.
We have just removed the potential opportunity of such outcome when it didn't work to resolve into a more peaceful way.
Hopefully, no offense have been taken. I've done here.

Peace, being the distant dream it is, comes inevitably, and goes hand in hand with justice.
Cursed be the war.
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Heroes never die! @Vitoniz30 @Connor

Geoffacake · (This post was last modified: 05-11-2018, 10:08 PM by Geoffacake.)

(05-11-2018, 09:47 PM)Schwi Wrote: Let me clarify something concerning the facts stated above - you were wrecked not because you were going to face a clearly overwhelming force or because you were showing off and pretending it to be a bold move. You got wrecked because you came in a gunboat and was clearly going to interfere the event.
We have just removed the potential opportunity of such outcome when it didn't work to resolve into a more peaceful way.

The method for removing me was by actually destroying my vessel, My reason for being at the event was stated above. You engaged me because I was a hostile variable to your operations. Thats just how unlawfuls should treat lawfuls. But also looking at the context of the event, thats my job as a lawful to be there and protect the assets of the station. Especially within such a lawful zone.

How I think that sentence should be written as, is:

Quote:You got engaged because you came in a gunboat and was clearly going to interfere the event. You were wrecked because you were going to face a clearly overwhelming force or because you were showing off and pretending it to be a bold move.

First comes the reason for engagement, the latter is the method used. Both are true.

Stefan · (This post was last modified: 05-20-2018, 04:39 AM by Stefan.)

This feedback comes specifically not from an encounter, but the lack of one. I'll explain:

I was with a friend today near the Freeport @ Sigma-15 when, eventually, a BDM tagged ship appeared on the distance. We were RP'ing something really important for both of our characters, so I immediately tossed him a group invite and, expecting to have to talk your guys out of a fight, was readying up my reasons if that was the case. Thankfully, or for purely coincidence, whomever was at the time must have realized we were into something heavy and decided to turn around and leave the blue message behind.

I have no clue of the reasons or who it was (I got really nervous when I saw the tag), but I wanted to drop a thank you for not interrupting what ended up being a very cool RP moment for the both of us.

On the other hand... There are a bunch of iRP reasons for me to get creeped out by you guys.
If you're looking for a RP buddy, I'm open. Big Grin

Korny · 05-21-2018, 04:05 AM,

Cool to see you guys encouraging RP so much, that if a transport passes by one of your cruisers, you make it believe you're escorting it out of Rheinland, but the transport just gets shot nonetheless.

Geoffacake · (This post was last modified: 05-21-2018, 11:28 AM by Geoffacake.)

(05-21-2018, 04:05 AM)Korny Wrote: Cool to see you guys encouraging RP so much, that if a transport passes by one of your cruisers, you make it believe you're escorting it out of Rheinland, but the transport just gets shot nonetheless.

Quote:§4. All foreign police, military and intelligence agency spaceships of any size are banned from Rheinland space, unless permission to enter is given by a High Command member of the Rheinwehr primary fleet ([RM]) or the Bundestag. In case of conflict, decision of the Bundestag carry more weight. Violators may be fined up to 10.000.000 SC fine and are to be escorted out of the Rheinland space by the shortest way. Ships which will not comply or commit violation repeatedly may be destroyed.

You took a risk by entering Rhienland on board a Liberty Navy ship, this is not something that we take too kindly to since its clearly stated in the laws, and you received further bad-luck by encountering a Buro agent, we're not the goody-two-shoes police who write down on paper pads and mainly operate on public peace keeping duties. That worst thing you can do is test our patience.

And test you did, I've got a list here of every time my member requested that you followed him as a lawful order, along with your responses:

Quote:[21.05.2018 02:07:38] BDM|RNC-Zeisenburg: You better stop and accept my escort our or this will go viral.
[21.05.2018 02:07:56] [LN]-LLS-Fort.Wayne: James: Sorry to disappoint you, this is just a shipment of metal to Kusari.

Quote:[21.05.2018 02:08:18] BDM|RNC-Zeisenburg: No worries we will escort you ,since we have the evidence of your identification i suggest you stop.
[21.05.2018 02:08:51] BDM|RNC-Zeisenburg: I think it is time to put past judgmental toughts aside and stop ,or make an international affair.
[21.05.2018 02:09:03] [LN]-LLS-Fort.Wayne: James: Time's money my good man. Meet me at the New Berlin gate.

Quote:21.05.2018 02:11:25] BDM|RNC-Zeisenburg: Come with me ,if Rheinlwehr sees you
[21.05.2018 02:11:26] BDM|RNC-Zeisenburg: We are dead
[21.05.2018 02:11:28] BDM|RNC-Zeisenburg: Come with me
[21.05.2018 02:11:43] BDM|RNC-Zeisenburg: I will get you to Kusari.
[21.05.2018 02:11:45] [LN]-LLS-Fort.Wayne: James: Can't do that, sir. I'm en-route the fastest way.

Quote:[21.05.2018 02:12:09] BDM|RNC-Zeisenburg: Lichthammer That is an order sir I insist if you want to get out alive that you follow me
[21.05.2018 02:12:21] BDM|RNC-Zeisenburg: Lichthammer:I cannot allow navy escort in New Berlin ,trafics.
[21.05.2018 02:12:28] [LN]-LLS-Fort.Wayne: James: You're making this awfully suspicious, and I have my protocol.

Quote:[21.05.2018 02:13:09] BDM|RNC-Zeisenburg: Lichthammer:You will have my escort in Dresden,Frankfurt ,on my watch.
[21.05.2018 02:13:21] BDM|RNC-Zeisenburg: Lichthammer:And you will get out of here because you are navy.
[21.05.2018 02:13:35] [LN]-LLS-Fort.Wayne: James: This is ridiculous. The war is over, Rheinlander.
[21.05.2018 02:13:38] BDM|RNC-Zeisenburg: Lichthammer:I am trying to save your life.
[21.05.2018 02:13:45] [LN]-LLS-Fort.Wayne: James: I'm just fine, thank you.

Quote:[21.05.2018 02:14:36] BDM|RNC-Zeisenburg: Lichthammerock on planet Stuttgart and change your vehicle or I will open fire.
[21.05.2018 02:15:29] [LN]-LLS-Fort.Wayne: James: What's wrong with a transport of an allied house carrying Titanium to another allied house, I'd like to ask.

Quote:[21.05.2018 02:17:14] BDM|RNC-Zeisenburg: Lichthammer:You are to follow me and tell me all about Galic military power on our way ,and I will make sure you pass
[21.05.2018 02:17:16] BDM|RNC-Zeisenburg: Unseen
[21.05.2018 02:17:35] BDM|RNC-Zeisenburg: Lichthammer:And as I said if you refuse ,Direcktor is not here ,so there will be no mercy to your ship
[21.05.2018 02:17:45] [LN]-LLS-Fort.Wayne: James: With all due respect, sir, but you're making no sense to me. Feel free to contact Liberty High Command of this, they'll
[21.05.2018 02:17:47] BDM|RNC-Zeisenburg: Lichthammer:Ja ,war is over ,yet again hy is Navy traspassing?
[21.05.2018 02:17:47] [LN]-LLS-Fort.Wayne: surely back me up.

7 times you were given a lawful order to follow my Member, 7 times you tried to dismiss it. If I was around, I would of given the order for your ships destruction on order #3. His patience was tested, and I wouldn't expect a Buro agent to give a lot of mercy to a military vessel who he might hold suspicions heading towards frankfurt, or even the sigmas at a time of war against the GMG.

You failed to adhere to 7 lawful orders, not only that but I did see some tell-tale within this interaction.

Quote:[21.05.2018 02:19:45] [LN]-LLS-Fort.Wayne: James: Because you are threatening to shoot down a trading ship of your allied house.

Clean that water out of your ears boy and get on grips with the Lore you apparently don't know, no way are Rheinland and Liberty Allied.

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