I vaguely remember something about Core not complaining. If you actually do not enjoy the siege then call it off. We can return then to the status quo in Delta. Dont expect fair fights rolling up to a PoB during an active siege, and that applies to everyone who rolls alongside and allies with Core in Kiribati field. Everyone who thinks otherwise clearly never visited any PoB siege in history of discovery.
May I remind you that we sieged the Nauru because it had potential to lock down an entire area with weapon platforms, its name further reinforced this threat. We didn't put up any weapon platforms for months around Dabadoru, and only built them to counter you specifically.
If you want activity, then after that you could meet us in Omegas to break the monotony of Edge worlds. Though, as I said we're taking the good guys gloves off when things that costed considerable amount of time and credits (none of which are refundable) are at stake. Fair fights are ONLY possible when the only loss you can suffer is ammo bill and mild discomfort by clicking respawn button.
You do realize that "cloaked" evidence is not valid, yes?. People were sanctioned for it already. Friendly advice not to use it for RPs. Just before anyone gets mad and pulls the same move that was pulled against Divine and some others before. Keeping it for your MD is fine, that's faction internal stuff, I would say. But trying to get RP consequences over cloaked recorded stuff is not a good idea.
Thats the dumbest rule they ever put in place though, even if just for military/police/intel ID's. Intel ID's should most certainly be ok to do it. Its a completely unfair rule anyways. No acknowledgement of reality for the other guy, and why? If you are there to see something but are cloaked it should be useable for any ID. I don't get why its so important to force people to not use what they see when spying cloaked.
People should just accept it can happen to them and not fall back on rule protection. This is exactly the point of having this stuff and getting good. Many times the only way to catch someone, or catch someone being bad is to be cloaked. If you're within range to pick up chat and see dock messages, and avoid detection, that is as fair as is needed with beeps and cloak disruptors out there.
That’s what everyone does. When something doesn’t go their way they try everything to prove that the other broke a rule or try their hardest to insure anything someone does is not credited. This “Gaming community that everyone claims to be apart of is full of nothing but people who can’t accept change. That’s why when order sieges core it’s fine and dandy because core knows he we will be fine it’s just a pob but when core punches back all of a sudden everyone turns into an axe wielding maniac seeking for blood from the faction who is properly doing things. Same issue happened with hellfire.This is the same scenario Spectre literally just turned the same book on core that got turned on him and bellck when they started trying to siege bases. All of this is toxicity cause someone doesn’t get their way.
It may be no broken Rule, but my personal suggestion is that the Core doesn't continue to work with Bretonia so "deep".
Would some of my Chars know what i can read in the Forum i would say that the core is someting like the Omicron-Army of Bretonia. And the beginiing of this is for everyone visible with the Bretonian BS in the Core's fleet and the SIS who seems to work with the Core.
(03-30-2020, 01:39 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: When Golanski and Vipex (Order| HC) were system devs they deleted our NPC Battleships out of bias.
First off, Vipex was never an Order HC.
Second, I dont know what is your problem with battleships, they were armed to the teeth and surrounding all the jumpholes in the system, making it impassable for anyone but Core. You completely refused to utilize them in any other manner than the one described here: denying an entire system's access which not even Order did, even with some divine favor you claim.
(03-30-2020, 01:39 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: pending a Rho redux
Back in the day I offered to give you a free total makeover as an official disco dev. You denied to have anything to do with me. You missed your chance there and you have no one else to complain on except yourself
(03-30-2020, 01:39 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: Amenta and the one at Apophis
Apophis existed as far back as 4.84, deal with it. As for Amenta, your beloved "much Dabadoru" Rohj added it there himself
(03-30-2020, 01:39 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: The Core is an organization with established influence throughout the sector the support of each of the Houses.
You are a reject of older disco times created with little thought and supervision to remove Star Wars capital ships from the Houses, dumping the problem on Order. The sudden fleet that rivals The Order appeared pretty much instantly, just like the [HF] did.
(03-30-2020, 01:39 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: The Order, for years, had essentially a single base of operations (Omicron Minor/Toledo)
Omicron 100/Epsilon and high reliance on our own allies to extend operational zone into Houses means we didn't need to build that many bases abroad ourselves. Same was true for Core until recently, with the recent Omega changes. Order itself also maintains Atum abroad and our own installation in Sigmas. So I dont get this point at all.
(03-30-2020, 01:39 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: The Order has few allies to draw on, ostracizing both the Corsairs
Get your facts straight before you make an Oof. Corsairs declared war on Order first. That alliance was OORP to begin with, just like your attempts to side with Outcasts. The Order can call to certain degree (military, economic, influence or otherwise) help of BD, SCRA, Bundschuh, Red Hessians, Lane Hackers, Xenos, (half of) GC, IMG, GMG, Confederal Navy and even some people within LN, though by no means a major part of it. We've been fortifying Omicrons for over twice the age of BHG Guard itself as a concept and after Toledo, still have bigger population than you ever had. You live on whatever charity BIS throws you for the Nomad BS remains that everyone can farm themselves now.
(03-30-2020, 01:39 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: The Core was able to strike into Omicron Epsilon and destroy Lisbon station
gUesS WhO wrOte The inFoCarD. Wanted to make Core feel good at least for a split second. How dare I.
TL;DR
Treewyrm taught me how to systemdev after refusing to touch Order systems himself. My stuff went though official devs and they said ok and they made me a dev for that. I offered my services to Core, it was denied. For all this time, Order systems were traversable and lacked any unavoidable obstacles that could Oof smugglers or invaders prematurely.
THe very fact I have to debunk you every now and then for pretty much everytime your memory undergoes a soft reset since 2016, you must be getting quite desperate for any ammo... to be used in Core feedback rather than Order one, rofl.
(03-31-2020, 11:42 AM)Omicron Wrote: You are a reject of older disco times created with little thought and supervision to remove Star Wars capital ships from the Houses, dumping the problem on Order. The sudden fleet that rivals The Order appeared pretty much instantly, just like the [HF] did.
Bazinga. I don't think I could have put it better myself even if I tried.
(03-31-2020, 11:42 AM)Omicron Wrote: Second, I dont know what is your problem with battleships, they were armed to the teeth and surrounding all the jumpholes in the system, making it impassable for anyone but Core. You completely refused to utilize them in any other manner than the one described here: denying an entire system's access which not even Order did, even with some divine favor you claim.
I pushed for a Rho redesign because, the faction that lived and breathed off raid activity, had a home system that couldn't be raided. Makos at the jump holes were problematic, albeit it was hilarious watching Scourge get butt-blasted by a hail of Cerb fire - but I digress they did need to get moved, not removed. But you used this as an excuse for you and your cronies to abuse your Dev position and power to delete another faction's assets just to make Order seem stronger. I wouldn't be surprised if this was a similar story for Corsair assets in the Omicrons, Golanski and co removing other people's things just to make himself feel better.
(03-31-2020, 11:42 AM)Omicron Wrote: Back in the day I offered to give you a free total makeover as an official disco dev. You denied to have anything to do with me. You missed your chance there and you have no one else to complain on except yourself
You never approached me for a Rho design, and you are the last person I would trust with that.
(03-31-2020, 11:42 AM)Omicron Wrote: Apophis existed as far back as 4.84, deal with it. As for Amenta, your beloved "much Dabadoru" Rohj added it there himself
I'd like to see you cite these with sources. At the very least, you are notorious for adding in things yourself, with the Dev team having to double back and remove them - which is why you know longer have a yellow name.
(03-31-2020, 11:42 AM)Omicron Wrote: You are a reject of older disco times created with little thought and supervision to remove Star Wars capital ships from the Houses, dumping the problem on Order. The sudden fleet that rivals The Order appeared pretty much instantly, just like the [HF] did.
Unlike Order|, Core| cleaved a lot of its capitals from the BHG|Core era because the inflated numbers that iterations of the faction before it was ridiculous. The faction worked with the development team to rescale itself appropriately in the modern Disco era, far more than other factions of 'older disco times' have done, and that's on top of all the roleplay the faction did when it came to RPing it's fleet strength, building itself back up, establishing new markets for resources etc. Comparatively speaking, Order is a joke of your own making - massively veering off what it was supposed to be in vanilla just so that you can have your own power fantasy. |O| are at least playing Order how it is supposed to be played.
(03-31-2020, 11:42 AM)Omicron Wrote: Omicron 100/Epsilon and high reliance on our own allies to extend operational zone into Houses means we didn't need to build that many bases abroad ourselves. Same was true for Core until recently, with the recent Omega changes. Order itself also maintains Atum abroad and our own installation in Sigmas. So I dont get this point at all.
Until very recently 100/Epsilon was a guard system and not canon to the lore. You cannot use it as something to justify Order's existence. For all intents and purposes, Epsilon is now a system Order has minority influence in and is struggling to hold against the Nomads.
(03-31-2020, 11:42 AM)Omicron Wrote: Get your facts straight before you make an Oof. Corsairs declared war on Order first. That alliance was OORP to begin with, just like your attempts to side with Outcasts. The Order can call to certain degree (military, economic, influence or otherwise) help of BD, SCRA, Bundschuh, Red Hessians, Lane Hackers, Xenos, (half of) GC, IMG, GMG, Confederal Navy and even some people within LN, though by no means a major part of it. We've been fortifying Omicrons for over twice the age of BHG Guard itself as a concept and after Toledo, still have bigger population than you ever had. You live on whatever charity BIS throws you for the Nomad BS remains that everyone can farm themselves now.
The Core's diplomacy with Outcasts is completely legitimate - none of the factions involved shared membership at the time for that matter (unlike Order's brief stint with Outcast diplomacy kek). Contracts with unlawfuls cannot rival that of lawful corporations and government. On that note Order is an unlawful faction, which diminishes its attractiveness for immigration and population growth, and overall growth Plus Order got infinitely more boned than Core did during Toledo, so there's definitely a big hiccup during that fortification period you speak about. I don't dispute that Order probably had a bigger population than Core on Toledo, but they're buried under lots of cooled molten rock right now.
(03-31-2020, 11:42 AM)Omicron Wrote: gUesS WhO wrOte The inFoCarD. Wanted to make Core feel good at least for a split second. How dare I.
How stupid you must look and feel, not much different from how you normally feel though I suppose.
(03-31-2020, 11:42 AM)Omicron Wrote: Treewyrm taught me how to systemdev after refusing to touch Order systems himself. My stuff went though official devs and they said ok and they made me a dev for that. I offered my services to Core, it was denied. For all this time, Order systems were traversable and lacked any unavoidable obstacles that could Oof smugglers or invaders prematurely.
From what I was told, because Yuri a-ok'd your stuff it went through without much oversight from the others. You're not fooling anyone because we all know you injected Order with lots of stuff so much that it got you kicked out of the Dev team, and then those items removed from the mod at a later date.
You realize I got into a devteam exactly for my input into Omicron update, NOT before? Get your timeline straight.
Your song about caps was different back then. But after all you can claim anything and be believed by anyone in Core.
Also please list every member that is both member of any official faction current or recent, as well as Order|. Pls, you literally wont find any.
|O| is also so good at playing Order that they dont even meet activity requirements, notabene they blame you as their fun killer.
Devteam a-ok'd everything that went in, otherwise it would had not gone into the mod in the first place. In fact their only concern was infocards, which they assigned me an American from outside to adjust/rewrite
(03-31-2020, 11:42 AM)Omicron Wrote: Apophis existed as far back as 4.84, deal with it. As for Amenta, your beloved "much Dabadoru" Rohj added it there himself
I'd like to see you cite these with sources. At the very least, you are notorious for adding in things yourself, with the Dev team having to double back and remove them - which is why you know longer have a yellow name.