Corsairs pirating Zoners in Omega-49

[DragonLancer]

Yesterday, a corsair tried in 49. With a Zoner Juggernaut right next to me. Who said I was under his protection. Because the BS was there, I didn't pay up. And then the Corsair killed me. Even though the Corsair got away, doesn't it seem odd that a pirate would attack a miner with a Battleship right next to him? In that BS's home system?

Got a similar situation today.
As long as the dirty work is done in deep space and not in front of a Zoner installation the Zoner Guard will stay neutral.
The Zoner guard are no cops, eh?
I noticed some miners payed up, some not, some brought in protection.

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[Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever]

I dont think its illegal (in server rule terms) to pirate out in front of a planet not hostile to your faction, but this doenst mean MASSIVE reprocussions cant "occur" against them;)I will, in my juggernaut, assist any trader being pirated near a freeport/zoner base, Ive seen other Zoner Guard caps not even pay attention when it was happening right in front of them to a fellow zoner...

[Jinx]

the problem is a discrepancy of RP and rules....

in RP, no pirate that had even a sliver of self preservation would pirate a trader with a battleship in very close range that "might" engage ( rule or not doesn t matter here )

but thats like pirate battleships... - no trader in their right mind would fly past a pirate cruiser.... still, traders do. - i do it, too.... when i spot a pirate as a trader, and its a cruiser - i actually feel relieved, a wrong feeling for a situation like that.

so when a juggernauts sits there and a non zoner trader is pirated near gran canaria.... what holds him back?

- gran canaria is NOT a freeport... it doesn t say it is, it does not match the characteristics of a freeport.
- the ID rules "may attack when the freeport neutrality is violated" is too vague - what battleship player wants to risk his shields, armour, weapons ... "just to make a point"?

gran canaria is not a free hub for traders. it is not build for everyone - it is build for zoners. to fend off incursions, a battlestation ( lancarote ) was build in a high orbit. - zoners have at least tried to hide its existance from others and employ heavy protection there.

all that doesn t sound much like a "freeport" - so how can freeport neutrality be violated? - maybe zoner interests, but not freeport neutrality. - meet a lawyer pirate and you re in trouble, cause the ID speaks of FREEPORT neutrality.

other than that, you have no right to engage anyone - unless they have zoner pilots, attack zoners or drain your shields by 50% or fire a CD at you.

of course - that d be silly, but then - the ID might need to be more accurate.

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[Tovig]

Today I get destroyed by 3 Corsairs pirating on O-49 in my Zoner Whale. It's a total nonsense. Or we don't allow clearly that Corsairs can't pirat in O-49, or we must bring out the Corsairs of O-49. Body guards don't assault theyr client, it's totally dumb...

[David Petraeus]

All of you have forgotten the infocard for Omega-49...

The Zoners ALLOW the Corsairs there, its highly OORP to pirate the Zoners when the Zoners allow the Corsairs there as protection from Gran Canaria being exploited and the whole shabang.

Corsairs may pirate Zoners elsewhere, but when the Zoners at 49 allow the Sairs to use Canaria as a base point and they pirate the Zoners outside of it, its wrong.

"Oh hey, we will let you use our base in order to conduct operations in Bretonia, aslong as you provide a sense of security here..."

"Okay... 2milordai"

"Get the hell off of our planet!"

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[Malaclypse 666]

We will be considering our options once the current Chairman vacancy is filled.

Those options will be legal, lawful, and "in-RP".

I guarantee that none of those options will be considered amusing by the offenders. They will be officially announced before a shot is fired.

Mal

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[Lucend]

I can completely understand not attacking Zoners in Omega 49, because that's who Corsairs are hired to protect.

But the Miners and other peoples who come in that are "Zoner guests" are vague. Personally I have no problem with a Zoner Juggernaut coming up and blowing away a pesky pirate if they're in range of Gran Canaria, but who exactly gets to decide who are "guests?" Gran Canaria has a sizable Corsair population, and there are Corsair patrols in the system.

Also, Lancarote isn't a battlestation, it's a mining platform that mines gold from the nearby planetoid.

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Juan Lucendez, √ Corsair

[Malaclypse 666]

If they're invited there by the Zoners, then as our "employees", the corsairs should respect that, and leave them the hell alone.

Period.

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[bluntpencil2001]

You know, the Zoners are kinda silly for trusting bloodthirsty pirates.

If they rob people after you let them in, you shouldn't be surprised because it's what they do.

It would be like keeping a wasp's nest in your bedroom and being surprised if you got stung.

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[Malaclypse 666]

You know, the Zoners are kinda silly for trusting bloodthirsty pirates.

If they rob people after you let them in, you shouldn't be surprised because it's what they do.

It would be like keeping a wasp's nest in your bedroom and being surprised if you got stung.

Point taken.

We may be slow in getting smarter.

Time to call the exterminators.

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