Y'know what...

[Boss]

Stuff happens.

Its a game.

Chillax.

This goes for -everyone- in this thread.

Just step away from the monitor for a moment and breath.

If you want to do something productive.. find a noob and PM him.. maybe one of the gankers themselves.

Try guiding them through disco the proper way.. get to know them and teach them how to fight fair.. how to enjoy the game.

Peace and love yea?

<3 you all.. now go chill.

Anne has spoken, long live Anne.

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Just go play the game and have fun dammit.

all in all the conclusion is that disco doesn't need antagonist factions, it doesn't need phantoms, it doesn't need nomads, it doesn't need coalition and it doesn't need many other things, no AIs, the game is hijacked by morons to confuse the game with their dickwaving generic competition games mixed up with troll-of-the-day.

[n00bl3t]

To be perfectly honest, the majority of the time the lawfuls far outnumber unlawfuls in NY.

Depends on the timezone. (Let us just say, it sucks to be an Australian playing around 20:00 after dinner.)

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Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.

[Albert]

You mean it sucks to be a LAWFULL australian.

Australians are mostly unlawfuls. They used to be a british penal colony remember?

Being unlawfuls is in their genes, as you can see in Liberty at those times.

Yes, I am racist when due.

[hypermauler]

well, I guess I see that so often too. But im not gojng to point fingers because people like to form Big juicy team to feel stong.

You know, afterward, the only thing that change is the rest of the''glory'' that goes for the one been on the hard side aka the lawful one.

But hey, it doent matter since the most important is the Role-Play?
But what About you are stuck with contant waves of lolwut thinking they are good players because they know how to say engage and the second there is nothing to be ''lolpwned'' they just go to another stereotopical pvp spot with anohter lolunlawful gank can.

I guess that's somehow a standart here since so many act this way, So I guesss we will enjoy that ''Discovery'' Mircowaved dish of everyday.

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[Albert]

You know what I find the most astounding in Discovery?

It's that people really seem to think that if they complain about ingame behavior of other people, it is going to do any good.

People who are behaving the way you say don't read the forum, and if they do they will lol at you here just like they lol at you ingame.

People coming on the server and making groups to fight and win in the busiest system, with or without RP will always happen. Its absolutely unrealistic to think it wont.

If you think something is wrong, you should first try to change it by changing the game mechanics, then the rules. Rants and appeals to reason to people who you know dont care will have only minimal to no effect.

If you think NY is a madhouse and dont like RM allying with OC there, and hoardes of indy lolpirates running the place over, you should: Remove NY from OC ZOI, remove NY from RM ZOI, remove generic pirate IDs, and make lanes non usable by pirates. If not all of those, then some of those.

All this ranting about people's behavior... when it is really normal computer gamer behavior... is totally futile.

[Kubotan]

And what you forget to understand is that it's exactly what people like Joe is doing. I can list plenty of concrete examples that he has done over the past few years to fix as many problems in Liberty as he can, this is not to say that he's the only guy who is going to get the praise, other Factions and players have done similar work in trying to organize and fix issues. But these problem persists and it's only natural that this is the case. Many of the audience Joe is targeting do indeed read the forums, an example I can give here is the Liberty Navy Capital Ship Registration.

I don't know how long you have been here, but clearly you haven't sticked around enough to understand the amount of frustration and stress all this crap takes on you, now add that with real-life and an Admin job and you can remotely imagine the position Joe is in. No, I'm not brown-nosing him, I'm trying to give you a perspective of what a tough job means, because clearly you have no frickin' idea.

Now, yes, we have seen these types of threads before, but sometimes all that is needed is to remind people of what the situation looks like and perhaps it helps the guy to cool down to write these kinds of threads. I respect that considering how much he has to deal with.

[Albert]

First of all, the last post was a general statement and not only about Joe, and second I have stuck around long enough to know the situation in liberty very well, and it hasnt changed much over the last year.
What I see is people complaining over and over again about too many unlawfuls and chaos and too many people, but the obvious thing... which would be taking NY out of the ZOI of people who dont really have much business there (excpet pvp-whoring), such as the Outcasts, or restricting genereic pirates and mercs, isnt being dont.
Now to why it isnt being done I dont know... maybe its planned in 4.86 and its jsut taking much longer than expected. But doing that would be more effective than the "U GANK NO U GANK" ranting that has been going on for oer a year between liberty lawfuls and unlawfuls.

[n00bl3t]

And what you forget to understand is that it's exactly what people like Joe is doing. I can list plenty of concrete examples that he has done over the past few years to fix as many problems in Liberty as he can, this is not to say that he's the only guy who is going to get the praise, other Factions and players have done similar work in trying to organize and fix issues. But these problem persists and it's only natural that this is the case. Many of the audience Joe is targeting do indeed read the forums, an example I can give here is the Liberty Navy Capital Ship Registration.

I don't know how long you have been here, but clearly you haven't sticked around enough to understand the amount of frustration and stress all this crap takes on you, now add that with real-life and an Admin job and you can remotely imagine the position Joe is in. No, I'm not brown-nosing him, I'm trying to give you a perspective of what a tough job means, because clearly you have no frickin' idea.

Now, yes, we have seen these types of threads before, but sometimes all that is needed is to remind people of what the situation looks like and perhaps it helps the guy to cool down to write these kinds of threads. I respect that considering how much he has to deal with.

As paraphrased by you sometime in the past, the whole thing is voluntary.

By the way, capital ship registration is a joke.

In summation, riveting tale chap, please tell another.

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Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.

[Apocalypse2001]

Why not? Because this is a game and some people actually like to play it decently? Because the [LN] Faction tries hard to keep the odds even and the place clean and then some idiotic *******s bunch up against LN because it's "fun to kill LN lol" and then attack with overwhelming odds and then run like a hurt pansy back to the sun?

Just because you can, doesn't mean you do mate. Get that very clear. And next time I'll show up in Rhienland with a couple of Dreads, and get some criminals in Rhienland to help me gank a few [RM]. What the hell?

Hell yes! I agree with you! F(*&ing A!
Or when I patrol with my IMG character and others WITH OTHER characters snoop the list with another character and suddenly switch to another character and decide to gang bang me in Galileo, for example, because they like Bullying...! - Shattered Worlds actually has a rule against snooping/switching behavior like that. Do we???
Or, for instnace, when I bring my Outcast character through various systems and specifically say on the channel that 'I'm not here to pirate or bully' I really do mean it!! I only go through heavily populated lawful areas just to test out and see if my survivability ratio has improved; it doesn't mean 'ooo pacifistic outcast, lets gang bang him!' God...!!!!!!!!!

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[Apocalypse2001]

Also there should be registration for all factions. If for instance there is too high a number of pirates compared to miners, the amount of pirates should be limited. Or confined to their speciic area of space until the number of miners has increased to balance the whole thing out!

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