Be careful with aths statement there, it pushes an all or nothing vote, which will be harder to pass. An answer on what you would do with the Id question would probably be very helpful.
' Wrote:Be careful with aths statement there, it pushes an all or nothing vote, which will be harder to pass. An answer on what you would do with the Id question would probably be very helpful.
Then I should ask, are we not allowed to bounty hunt with our secondary ID? The only limitation I see with the secondary ID is that it cannot use tech that the primary ID does not allow.
' Wrote:Vessels with the specialized ID must behave according to that ID's permissions and restrictions, even if the permissions of the faction's primary ID are different. For example, a Slaver ID'd Outcast faction character can only pirate according to Slaver ID restrictions.
All ship and weapon choices are subject to the restrictions belonging to the faction's primary ID, NOT the specialized IDs. The specialized ID does NOT provide access to ships or weapons that are forbidden to the primary ID.
' Wrote:Then I should ask, are we not allowed to bounty hunt with our secondary ID? The only limitation I see with the secondary ID is that it cannot use tech that the primary ID does not allow.
As far as I can see, bounty hunting is not part of your primary ID, the 'Pirate' ID. Therefore, with your secondary ID, you can only hunt within the bounds of the primary ID; since the Pirate ID does not allow hunting, you cannot hunt with the Merc ID.
"For example, a Slaver ID'd Outcast faction character can only pirate according to Slaver ID restrictions. "
' Wrote:Then I should ask, are we not allowed to bounty hunt with our secondary ID? The only limitation I see with the secondary ID is that it cannot use tech that the primary ID does not allow.
So what you are saying is that you want the admins to either accept your application as is or not. I am saying that might make it harder for you to achieve official status, if you care to look at the situation and give an answer to a question about accommodation, it may make the job of us in the Admin team easier as we will have a better understanding of what compromises you may be willing to accept. Otherwise we have to make our vote on an all or nothing basis, and as I said, it will make it significantly harder for a passing vote.
Quote:Vessels with the specialized ID must behave according to that ID's permissions and restrictions, even if the permissions of the faction's primary ID are different. For example, a Slaver ID'd Outcast faction character can only pirate according to Slaver ID restrictions.
All ship and weapon choices are subject to the restrictions belonging to the faction's primary ID, NOT the specialized IDs. The specialized ID does NOT provide access to ships or weapons that are forbidden to the primary ID.
This clearly states that ships carrying the secondary ID must behave according to permissions (which is bounty hunting in case of Mercenary ID) and restrictions of the carried ID.
I don't see a reason why the RR couldn't pursue bounty contracts with appropriate secondary ID.
It seems people are twisting rules and fabricating non-existent restrictions to hinder this faction creation request.
' Wrote:This clearly states that ships carrying the secondary ID must behave according to permissions (which is bounty hunting in case of Mercenary ID) and restrictions of the carried ID.
I don't see a reason why the RR couldn't pursue bounty contracts with appropriate secondary ID.
It seems people are twisting rules and fabricating non-existent restrictions to hinder this faction creation request.
What's the point of having restrictions on an Id if people can just use another ID to her around them?
' Wrote:So what you are saying is that you want the admins to either accept your application as is or not. I am saying that might make it harder for you to achieve official status, if you care to look at the situation and give an answer to a question about accommodation, it may make the job of us in the Admin team easier as we will have a better understanding of what compromises you may be willing to accept. Otherwise we have to make our vote on an all or nothing basis, and as I said, it will make it significantly harder for a passing vote.
I'm was not making a statement. I am asking what rule prohibits us to bounty hunt with our secondary ID?
It seems that the purpose of the secondary ID is to allow just that. If you can't do anything that your original ID allows, what's the point of the secondary ID in the first place?
I am not sure how by asking this question it makes you have to make an "all or nothing" vote. I am just asking a question...
The faction creation rules talk about the restrictions of the secondary ID, not the permissions of the secondary ID. I don't think it was ever the intention for factions to be able to bypass the restrictions of the primary ID with a second one.
' Wrote:The faction creation rules talk about the restrictions of the secondary ID, not the permissions of the secondary ID. I don't think it was ever the intention for factions to be able to bypass the restrictions of the primary ID with a second one.
' Wrote:Vessels with the specialized ID must behave according to that ID's permissions and restrictions, even if the permissions of the faction's primary ID are different.
If the admins believe there is a hole in faction creation rules, they should plug it.
Otherwise I think it's fair to expect admins to respect the rules in place just like they require the same from players.
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