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[Butcher]

Roleplay is great, but there is a point where RP becomes degrading to other players, almost bullying. As we see with cap-ganking in the Omicrons by Corsairs, Hunters, Hessians, Outcasts and the like, its difficult to have fun.

The RR have no caps (minus the special RP request). If what you are saying is that you can not have fun because they are to difficult to kill in their Nerfed Gallic GB's, I suggest you find a alternative solution to dealing with them, as your combat skills are not up to par.

however it is their fault to use this gaps in the beta in order to take advantage of them- this is not a behavior of any official faction and should not be one.

Correct me if I am wrong, but as defined by the original post I am pretty sure they had access to Gallic tech before the beta even was released.

Might I add, if you want to blame them for using a ship that somehow has gaps in the beta, then that is very hypocritical, as I know at least one person from every faction that took advantage of the removal of forward guns whether lawful or unlawful to lessen the nerf. (which the admins condemned)

[Mímir]

But I don't understand - the Order themselves was complaining that they can't take their Reshephs into the Omegas for some reason (I don't really understand why not).

Also in regards to ZOI limitations when punishing tech thieves, why not use the bounty system? I see Zoners doing that.

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[Yber]

So much win, Govedo.

Well, first point. About "Pirates GBs". No. Renegade mercenary GBs= Gamma. Pirate ID'd= Rheinland.
Erhm, asco OP? I've used ascos since no one knows, and yeah, it's a good gunboat, but only a good, average gunboat. Trust me when I say I can take on another gunboat with much more ease with an imperator than with an asco. And most of people do.

Also, insulting us isn't something really constructive, neither to say "we would die". If you can't add something constructive, I pray you to hold yourself out of posting on this thread.

And a little note; please tell me where are our "OP" setups, I'd be glad to grab one of these, 'coz we fly either miners or gunboats, all with nerf or basic turrets. I can't see the OP setup at all.

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inb4 Sirius gets renamed to XTF.

[Laerethe]

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The RR have no caps (minus the special RP request). If what you are saying is that you can not have fun because they are to difficult to kill in their Nerfed Gallic GB's, I suggest you find a alternative solution to dealing with them, as your combat skills are not up to par.
Correct me if I am wrong, but as defined by the original post I am pretty sure they had access to Gallic tech before the beta even was released.

Clearly you didn't read properly.

I was saying that some 'roleplay' can be degrading to unpleasant for other players, and used the capganking in Gamma as an example.

But I don't understand - the Order themselves was complaining that they can't take their Reshephs into the Omegas for some reason (I don't really understand why not).

Also in regards to ZOI limitations when punishing tech thieves, why not use the bounty system? I see Zoners doing that.

That defeats the point; the faction never gets a chance to do so, and instead must entrust that job to a sketchy hunter or freelancer. If someone stole your high-tech ship, would you really want to entrust that job?

Just an inRP example.

[Mímir]

If someone stole your high-tech ship, would you really want to entrust that job?

Your trusted neighbourhood mercenary - and if you don't have one, get one ASAP. Good for the RP foodchain as well.

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[RAL]

Clearly you didn't read properly.

I was saying that some 'roleplay' can be degrading to unpleasant for other players, and used the capganking in Gamma as an example.
That defeats the point; the faction never gets a chance to do so, and instead must entrust that job to a sketchy hunter or freelancer. If someone stole your high-tech ship, would you really want to entrust that job?

Just an inRP example.

I read it just fine. Your going off on a tangent that has zero to do with RR.

Props to Vey for finally posting the request :D

[Laerethe]

Your trusted neighbourhood mercenary - and if you don't have one, get one ASAP. Good for the RP foodchain as well.

A sketchy solution, and not by any means a complete one.

I read it just fine. Your going off on a tangent that has zero to do with RR.

I'm both fascinated and disappointed that you see it that way.

[Mímir]

A sketchy solution, and not by any means a complete one.

Please elaborate, if we want this to be a "proper" discussion and not just a combined qq/flame fest?

EDIT: I'm not trying to wind you up, I am just asking this question of out pure naïvety.

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[Daedric]

Jesus H Christ. Apoth - get it through your skull that the issue you are raising here is an issue that should be directed to the development team. Not RR. They are not breaking or abusing any technology. There are no rules on what technology you can and cannot use now. There is the Tech Nerf system. The RR use a wild mix of technology - they suffer power core nerfs for it. That is the system the admins/devs want. If you have a problem with that - take it up with them. Quit flooding a creation thread.

Vey has clearly stated he understands what you are saying - and has said he doesn't agree with you. Meaning - agree to disagree.

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[Veygaar]

Thank you Daedric.

And with that, we move on.

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