' Wrote:Some of what I'll say has been stated already but is worth saying again.
While Zoners are a very diverse and individualistic group of people, we agree on one thing, no oppressive governments. They learned that more with the dissolve of both the Council of Zoners and the Zoner Alliance. OSI nor TAZ control Zoner lore nor do they wish to. We each have our own diplomacy, our own relations and problems and we even differ with each other. We are doing exactly what so many wanted, running each group different from another.
Whilst I do appreciate this to be the view of yourselves and I agree that it should be entirely like this I cant agreed; Hone has already demonstrated that they perceive it differently and I am sure many others would also have a similar view if we were to take the Zoner ID.
This however I suppose is a moot point as I would still not be very comfortable applying "against" Phoenix.
' Wrote:OSI and TAZ have been established for some time and it took that long establishment to finally get our own ID. I wouldn't see a problem with an OZ Zoner subfaction but considering how long it took for us to get ours, I can't support an OZ ID.
The faction write-up is pretty good and from what I've read and seen, OZ will already have it's own diplomacy. For now, I'm on the fence.
I understand the attitude, "it has to be earnt" and I will not say we have or haven't earn't our own ID yet as that is not for me to decide. Usual applications take an arbitrary amount of time I suppose our application is a little different and perhaps it will be treat differently. I am not saying we should be handed what we want on a silver plate and wished good luck I am just asking for a fair shot.
Thank you for your comments and I take it as a complement
that you even made it to the fence.:)
' Wrote:I did see some OZ traders in NY, and mentioning "red is dead" behavior even. Not quite the kind of words you expect from an official faction.
You may be confusing our traders with other people, the only ones that have ever been to liberty are the BWT's, a single liner once and a whale that is able to smuggle through Alaska without dying.
The BWT RP's innocent and naive, the whale only ever met LN and was very apologetic whilst running away as fast as they could and I believe the liner bumped into a nomad (he lives in the omicrons) and questioned why the navy where not killing it with. This may have been what your referring to in which case I apologize but our "people" have prejudices due to their current "home" they see a nomad in house space they ask why it isn't being killed.
' Wrote:Considering you barely do anything else than take care of your bases in Zeta and trade materials to there, I don't think it's anything that requires it's own ID yet, as you still play on the zoners neutrality roleplay.
The ZOE had much more extensive roleplay and activity, yet did not get it because there was too many factions based on the Zoner ID already, in fact it was such a strange move the ZOE pretty much died afterwards.
So really I don't know, this request seems premature more than anything for the moment.
Whilst firstly I would just like to point out that a lot of other factions focus mainly on trading as well, a task
which is pretty hard to avoid if you are attempting to build bases at all.
However, actually if you were to experience our RP we do generally do quite a lot of other things, most of my base is now supplied by external contracted people. The act of setting up trade routes for these people is something I would consider productive to the community. As well as this we jump trade, role-play, defend ourselves and attempt to run interesting RP events.
Again thanks for all good questions and feedback n stuffs.
I will be spending the entire day away from the house today
so I will answer anymore questions tonight.