Request for Rules Clarification

[Garrett Jax]

there are precidents about it - but they are a case to case thing

i think it went a bit like that - skype is NOT a medium which counts towards a sanction - unless what is said there is directly and/or a continuation of the forum. - so if a skype rant is directly related to the disco community and forum - it can - under circumstances be used for a sanction. ( i do believe that is what cannon once said ( over 2 years ago ) - but thats not a direct quote, just an interpretation of what he commented a long time ago. key points are "continuation of a forum rant/insult" and it was not to be used "on its own" )

but there has never been a 100% clear rule about it. - in the past there had been admins and mods trolling/abusing/insulting other members of the community in skype, too - as well as there are countless members who insult or scheme against other members of the community in skype or other media.

skye cannot be patrolled - skype can also be edited easily. it is also very easy to put conversations well out of context - so it may probably just support a violation that has already occured.

so it is circumstancial/situational i guess - entirely depending on who makes the judgement.

Jinx has the right of it. The player in question posted in the sanction thread twice after being instructed not to. When the thread was locked, he immediately went into abuse mode on skype. This was not a random f-bomb directed at a staff member. This was a direct continuation of the conversation on the forum, with profanities added.

How we dealt with it? I shared the skype chat with the staff, left the chat the next morning, while it was discussed. A vote was taken on disciplinary measures, of which I, and a couple other Admins, abstained due to bias. The decision was to permaban the individual as a result of his conduct that day..

To be fair, the individual has since apologized, both to the staff, and to me personally. I appreciate the apology and I hold no grudge toward him. It's all forgotten. I'm sure his apology will be taken into consideration by the staff, however I will not be involved in any vote toward reinstatement for obvious reasons.

In most cases, skype conversations are not permissible as evidence, or something we ban people over. This, however, was an exceptional case where the player used skype as a cover to heave abuses on an admin based on a decision he didn't approve. Ironically, the decision that led to this situation was reversed, however, it was despite the tirade, not because of it. We try to be reasonable, and if there is doubt cast on any decision we make, we will take another look at it.

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