(01-03-2019, 10:05 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: I was there commanding the fight.
I saw that we had the numbers advantage. I don't know who had the skill, but I'll say that it's only very recently that we've been offering our indies tips to improve their flying. Unity kept cruising off exactly because he wasn't confident in his Bullhead. Also I don't think the critque of Unity cruising away (fairly sure it was the only ship of ours that kept cruising) is fair since I bet if not for us having a snub, you'd be cruising up to our caps with your Ossies. As much as I wish it were still the case, the days of "Core has some of the best snub and cap pvpers on the server and is constantly curbstomping everyone into the ground" are long gone - we've only got a small handful of strong pvpers and an even smaller sample of that log frequently.
Otherwise, yeah I felt like we didn't need to use all of our ships on you, and so I eased off the pressure. I (Arbitrator) sat out and so did Perditrix. I asked the others if they were happy with this compromise and they were fine with it.
However you guys then pulled the dirty move of shooting Perditrix when he was staying out of the fight. That's not cool at all. I think you guys definitely had a chance of winning, and the fight was fairly balanced, before you made that mistake. If the other side pulls a move like that, I'm not going to tell the player to still keep out. And even when you did that, I still stayed out of the fight.
And even though you didn't get a blue message you basically killed Unity. I can't say why he opted to run off and leave the fight instead of giving a justified blue message, but oh well. Your screenshot perfectly shows that he isn't present during that point of the fight and backs up my account of things.
On that note, it's pretty shameful that you've taken a deliberate crop only showing the ships in range of you, when not even all of them were shooting you, in a bid to paint us in the worst light as possible.
Order (the entire faction) has a big reputation for ganking and even worse stretching all the way back to the Dabadoru event and other instances. And there's many across Core (official and indie) that don't want to offer you fairplay because of that bias. Personally, I would like to change that trend. As you are a new, upstart faction with hopefully a bright future on the server, as far as PvP is concerned (and when I am present in fights and able to balance them) I would like to try to ensure things are kept fair and fun for all participants because that will create longevity.
I saw that we had the numbers advantage. I don't know who had the skill, but I'll say that it's only very recently that we've been offering our indies tips to improve their flying. Unity kept cruising off exactly because he wasn't confident in his Bullhead. Also I don't think the critque of Unity cruising away (fairly sure it was the only ship of ours that kept cruising) is fair since I bet if not for us having a snub, you'd be cruising up to our caps with your Ossies. As much as I wish it were still the case, the days of "Core has some of the best snub and cap pvpers on the server and is constantly curbstomping everyone into the ground" are long gone - we've only got a small handful of strong pvpers and an even smaller sample of that log frequently. - It's not about only the skill, it's about the cruising away. Members of your official faction when they were fighting us first at dabadoru, numbers were pretty equal but still EOG was outnumbered enough and EOG was still winning there. Thus leading Core members to cruise away I don't know where but we were after them, we decided to move back to dabadoru to dock because it made no sense to have such a bad experience, then one ship was still on the scanner not allowing us to dock. However that was my mistake because we should docked before this even started as explained above.
Otherwise, yeah I felt like we didn't need to use all of our ships on you, and so I eased off the pressure. I (Arbitrator) sat out and so did Perditrix. I asked the others if they were happy with this compromise and they were fine with it. - You felt like it but what you're telling me is not truth at all, only truth is that my members attacked Perdritrix, who I disrupted because he was cloaked. However I PM'd him to say sorry because it was an accident for my members to shoot him. However he could literally cruise away or stay out of the range and not be in the fight, while we weren't having any people who can CD him.
However you guys then pulled the dirty move of shooting Perditrix when he was staying out of the fight. That's not cool at all. I think you guys definitely had a chance of winning, and the fight was fairly balanced, before you made that mistake. If the other side pulls a move like that, I'm not going to tell the player to still keep out. And even when you did that, I still stayed out of the fight. "he was staying out of the fight" - That's a lie, because he was shooting us as well together with you. First you said to cease the fire down a little bit inRP, then moment after you continued shooting us together with Perditrix. This is not first, second, third neither last time ganks that will happen in the Omicrons especially when it comes to Core and I suggest you to at least show some respect and just leave the fight if you have enough ships. "fairly balanced" - No. Wasn't balanced at all. There's a difference in saying things and doing things, you said you're going to back off but in fact you did not.
And even though you didn't get a blue message you basically killed Unity. I can't say why he opted to run off and leave the fight instead of giving a justified blue message, but oh well. Your screenshot perfectly shows that he isn't present during that point of the fight and backs up my account of things.
On that note, it's pretty shameful that you've taken a deliberate crop only showing the ships in range of you, when not even all of them were shooting you, in a bid to paint us in the worst light as possible. - Unity was not the only ship there who was fighting us, it's not your thing that ship doesn't have enough confidence to fly a capital ship, but when you think about it he was not the only one like that in the battle after all, he was not the only one dirty-playing and cruising away. Indies here are more less the same as LN indies, however it's a shame for an official faction to act like this thus making me to bump this feedback.
Order (the entire faction) has a big reputation for ganking and even worse stretching all the way back to the Dabadoru event and other instances. And there's many across Core (official and indie) that don't want to offer you fairplay because of that bias. Personally, I would like to change that trend. As you are a new, upstart faction with hopefully a bright future on the server, as far as PvP is concerned (and when I am present in fights and able to balance them) I would like to try to ensure things are kept fair and fun for all participants because that will create longevity. - Gank or not, you've shown no respect to us because you should act better than people who gank other.
I decided not to bump your feedback anymore. I think I showed here my point and it's your thing will you do so or not. Common mistakes here can't be fixed that easy so I don't expect this to get fixed soon. Cheers.
