(07-02-2020, 05:43 PM)sajuuk111 Wrote: That's the problem.The "Administrator" of Freeport 1 was on the scene. Yet, GM made this call?
Then why do we have Freeport administrators?
It's just mob rule at this point, anything regarding someone sieging a POB is bad, so the indie that has had basically no roleplay took precedent over a person that has roleplayed the administrator of that station for an exceptionally long time now. Basically regardless of how much someone has done it all becomes meaningless if they don't pick the defenders side, even though nobody showed up to defend this station. Strangely, the POB's owner broke a bunch of rules, pretty sure I think it was 4 in less than a week and got a slap on the wrist, meanwhile the rules were amended and an FR5 (regardless of what the GMs want to call that, it's a god damn FR5, the only difference being that RHA and Zoners can't shoot each other, like in an FR5, so the combat aspect is missing, and it's just there to be annoying and make no sense.) was put in place supposedly "temporarily" until the Hessian faction "works it out" with the administrator of the station that didn't have a problem with it to begin with. Most likely because they resolved it the usual pirate way and demanded tax rather than straight up blowing it to pieces, which they ended up having to do anyway.
While Justin unironically claimed things were mob rule when people didn't agree with him, there is a bunch of people legitimately mobbing anyone that doesn't say Base Owned Players are a godsent centralized attraction to the mod, and the primary feature of the mod.
If you don't want your base being destroyed, don't make one, it has a health bar specifically so that it can be removed from existence, if you're too lazy to defend it, and too bullheaded and or lazy to pay out protection money, be it protection from the tax demander or anyone else, you should've thought about that before making the base. Especially considering that in a span of 1-2 hours, you can easily make 150mil, be it ore trading, sci-data mining, or mission running. It's a non issue.
Now I saw someone somewhere argue that bretonian ore bases don't make money and purely exist to help players, as ludicrous as that claim is, I'll use your logic then. So you made a POB for the sole purpose of helping out players, someone comes along and wants money from that base, offering to leave it alone if you pay, rather than straight up destroying it, which would indeed be a dick move. Because helping those players is no longer an automated task and you are inconvenienced does it become an issue, despite how easy paying 100mil in a month actually is, pricey? yeah sure, but these things are holding valuable ore, and they have easily more than 30k cargo, which is definitely more than 100mil.
Now before anyone says "You're all nothing but a bunch of filthy base siegers" and then turns around and declares sieges on other POBs, I've owned 4 separate POBs in my time here, they're ugly as piss, they're annoying to upkeep, they're time consuming, costly, pretty much all around pointless to have, and if you make one and you're too damn lazy to defend it, that's your own fault, don't go crying about "filthy base siegers" if you knew the risks when you made the base. 2 out of 4 of those bases were sieged cause I was too busy or lazy to defend it, I deserved that. The others died because I got sick of how much of my time they consumed. Now that's not to say that you're not allowed to enjoy POBs, good for you if you do, but if you're not willing or able to defend it, life happens, make a new one. I've both defended these abominations, and sieged these abominations, every interaction I've had with these has been horrid, they turn people against each other in a game of all things. Just chill out, you are literally crying over pixels. A good rule of thumb for not getting your POB sieged, don't put it within 10k of a damn station, that pisses pretty much everyone off.
Well then the next argument would be. "But muh roleplay", my answer to that is, I rarely see roleplay done in regards to a POB. The only POB I actively hate the existence of is FP12/ZoG using two different tags for the same faction to fly house shippers. But guess what, they can use that excuse because they actually roleplay actively with that station.
One more note in here. None of you cried when the IMG POB got ripped open in Tau-37 or any of the gallic POBs over the course of the war, hot take, because it had nothing to do with bretonian player assets.
le gasp
Conclusion, this is stupid and without the input of either the RHA faction or any of the what... 3 zoner official factions, or any of the what 5-6 factions in general, you made a decision on their behalf. Questionable at best.
As to what Sabru said, guess what, that's why GMs shouldn't go getting involved unless a faction with that ability is actually calling on them for action, because you get messes like this, and I'm pretty sure with OSI already being cool with it, Velvet not operating in that area, GRG being fairly dead, and with Phoenix not being official, it would've safely not had been an issue to begin with.
