Okay, obviously we've had some discussion lately regarding how we of the BHG|Core do things.
I'm taking this opportunity to remind people of a few things about us.
First, we're not regular Bounty Hunters. Please quit confusing us with them. This was made perfectly clear back in April of 2010. We've referred to this frequently that the Core does NOT hunt bounties. We can - but we don't. (This has caused several notes back and forth between Dusty and I about this, because of our differing interpretations of things, especially our ID.)
Second, there is no vanilla behind our (BHG|Core) RP. Hell, I don't think that anyone is even left who used to only be a member of the old Core, back when the S/D and Core merged. We've had to make everything up on our own about what we're doing. And we've been doing this now for more almost two years - and we've been consistent in the way we've written our RP. The issue is that most people, if you haven't been in the Order, haven't seen us.
Third, we're NOT indiscriminately shooting all Zoners anywhere and everywhere. If we were, there would be legitimate cause to complain. We've only been shooting the Zoners that have, in our opinion, been actively assisting the Order - which is allowed by our ID. (i.e., the ones in Delta, 74, Kappa, and Theta.)
Actually, we've accomplished pretty much what we wanted to accomplish in the Omicrons, which is to have equal treatment for the Order by the Zoners - at least in Delta and Theta, and we'd like to continue talking to someone regarding Kappa and 74. We specifically limited our conflict to the Omicrons, from the beginning, and kept it there.
Fourth - well, that gets into the whole bounty board thing. The only reason we have a bounty board is because we've been told we need one to avoid being charged with PvP abuse. But the only people who show up ON our bounty board are basically the people we can shoot as per our ID in the first place. Do we need to actually collect upon those bounties? Again - we're talking as the BHG|Core here, NOT as the regular BHG|.
Fifth - seriously, folks. Some zoners are now listed as being allied with the Order. I'm not saying that as a metagame issue, I'm saying that as the way they show up on the wiki, in their faction descriptions, and the way that they role-play. I'm seeing a bit of a double standard here that they can claim neutrality and scream and cry about us shooting them - when they're not actually neutral, they're allied with our enemies.
Sixth comes into role-play. People keep telling us that we need to role-play as bounty hunters. We do - we have the BHG| that does that. For almost two years now, the BHG|Core has been set up as a group that is fighting for control of Nomad tech with the Order. There's a reason why, when the Corsairs quit being allied with the Order, that it became VERY easy for us to stop shooting them. It fit in with our role-play - we go after Order, Nomad, Wilde, Outcasts, and anyone assisting them - since the Corsairs aren't doing that, why should we continue fighting them in Gamma or anywhere else in the Omicrons?
Again, the only way we're allowed to attack someone is they're not allied with the Nomads or Order is if they have a bounty on them. Who was it that had a bounty on the Corsairs in the Omicrons? Oh, that's right - we're the only ones. With our NAP - why are we fighting them?
Because someone decided that we had to fight them? Seriously? We're not allowed to grow and actually role-play like we have two brain cells to rub together? We're not dating their daughters (I know, I like to use that) but if we really don't have a reason to shoot them out in the boonies - why would we? (Again, I'll point out that without OUR own BHG|Core bounty on Corsairs, under the rules of the bounty board, WE CAN'T ENGAGE THEM OUT THERE!)
It was mentioned hey, why doesn't the LN have to claim bounties on the RM? Well, it's who they are. As the very first line of the Core ID says, that's who WE are. We've been shooting the crap out of the Order for the better part of 2 years now, and vice-versa. Where is their bounty board where they're claiming everything? Oh, wait - they can't fulfill bounty contracts, but they CAN shoot us according to their ID. Why do the same rules not apply to us that apply to them?
I would appreciate it if this did not get locked pending discussion by higher authority, but was left open so that members of the community can also give rational and intelligent feedback to this discussion. (Faint chance of that, but I can always hope, right?)
Quote:Pilot carrying this ID is a member of the Bounty Hunters Guild, who :
* Can fulfill lawful bounty contracts,
* Can trade and escort traders,
* Can demand cargo or credits from ships carrying contraband and destroy them if they refuse to comply,
* Cannot ally with any unlawfuls,
* Cannot participate in any unlawful actions.
* Cannot use any transports with more than 4,300 cargo
Pilot carrying this ID is a member of the Bounty Hunter Guild Core, who :
* Can attack Order, Nomad or Wilde and anyone actively assisting them.
* Can destroy any ship produced by The Order, regardless of the pilot's faction affiliation.
* May operate anywhere in Sirius that the Bounty Hunter ID permits. However Cruisers and Battleships may not operate in house space (as defined by the rules).
* Can fulfill bounty contracts.
* Can demand allied pilots, Nomad technology and Nomad specimens from other ships and destroy ships if they refuse to hand them over (Cruisers or Battleships may demand pilots only).
* Cannot demand any other cargo or credits.
* Cannot ally with any unlawfuls
* Cannot participate in any unlawful action.
(11-21-2013, 12:53 PM)Jihadjoe Wrote: Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.
