The point thats trying to be made to you is that you cant just steam roll into something just because of your own perception. You "deemed" Freeport 1 Abandoned just because no Rp was happening. Well if thats the case 70% if not more bases in the server can be technically considered "abandoned" but its not the case, have to remember that inrp those bases are still functioning with NPCs.
This was told to you before and nothing changed. However all it would of taken is a communication to literally ANY Zoner faction asking if the base needed an Administrator you dont just Self appoint yourself. For all you knew there could of been discussions OORP on chat servers about what to do with Freeport 1 (FYI there was/is) You would of known this had you just made a message. Instead you just made up your own story and decided to go with it and then expected everyone to just be on board with it.
(01-09-2019, 11:29 PM)Sombra Hookier Wrote: Yeah, you caught my attention when you tried to take credit for something that was done by someone else - namely the extension of Freeport 1, which was done by Kazinsal as dev with the pretense to simulate the natural growth of the Zoner NPC faction. You however tried to sell it, inRP, as if that was your work, which is something I don't approve of. For such a thing, and I happen to be the person that did exactly that, you need to put in more effort. In my example, the Nichols Upgrade Project, which took almost two years to accomplish and was plannet in detail by myself, included multiple factions, multiple players and had a big documention to it, so it was approved as SRP/Dev-Request.
You on the other hand did that one post of administrating Freeport 1, claim it was abandoned - we told you it wasn't, and CoF was still alive back then, but you ignored it - and just happen to have benefited from Kazinsal's spontaneous upgrade of several Zoner stations and Trenton, which has simply nothing to do with what you did. No SRP/dev request, just you pretending Geneva was causing this. And then one thing followed another. I told you about the rule about imports and you seem to not understand that forum names and actual RP characters are a difference; I told you about not taking credit for other people's work, told you that you can't just pretend to be a representant of an NPC asset (that is powergaming, another rule broken) and told you that there are people and groups that are in charge of such things and that you merely needed to approach them. You didn't, petulantly arguing against it with anything unrelated to it, coming up with baseless accusations and belittling. The issue with that is that you seem to not care for any established structure that pretty much safeguards both a certain quality control and mutual respect between people who actually went through the effort of making official factions and building up a network of qualified freeport representants, who are obliged to answer comms and bring in their own ideas.
You have certain qualities, but refuse to cooperate, in a multiplayer community where it is pretty much all about cooperation. With the community, the devs, the admins, etc. Do you not see an issue with that?
Refuse to cooperate? Remenber your insults man, no one wjants to cooperate with someone like that.
Thats what you call to what you have been doing with all my posts inRP?
And i still see nothing that changes the obvious:Freeport was abandoned by you all.
I understand all that you said, but yes i refuse you the right to claim anything about Freeport 1 simply because no one ever responded my RP oposing it, doing so would start the contact that could lead to the cooperation you talk about.
Man, you didnt really get me yet?
Palpable result of my RP? = Zero -its not everyone that make sRP to get something out of it like i was acused earlier in this thread
I dont whant my base enbeded inside the Freeport or anything like that
on what concerns Nichols, Nichols is a Core 5, only Oficial factions are entitled to them, like i said we do not whant to be in a group hence im the only one that speaks english and as you can see its not that good yet.
Although i must agree with you when you say i claimed the administration the truth is that, yes you told me as CoF that you owned it, but you also dismenbered it so, for me, that leaves room for others to step in.
On Kaze update, what you whant to say exactly? I didnt knew that this was going to happen, but if it did get upgraded why shouldnt i use what the dev made? if any day i whant to make a project for changing the shape of anything it would be of geneva and not the freeport.
So yes i took advantage of the update to make something that would bring some more permanent activity to the omegas, traders bringing stuff is always good for pirates and with my base and my neighbours it be perfect for the tradersto take ores and come back with more materials, for me this would all make sense.
Best regards
(01-09-2019, 11:44 PM)Aazalot Wrote: The point thats trying to be made to you is that you cant just steam roll into something just because of your own perception. You "deemed" Freeport 1 Abandoned just because no Rp was happening. Well if thats the case 70% if not more bases in the server can be technically considered "abandoned" but its not the case, have to remember that inrp those bases are still functioning with NPCs.
This was told to you before and nothing changed. However all it would of taken is a communication to literally ANY Zoner faction asking if the base needed an Administrator you dont just Self appoint yourself. For all you knew there could of been discussions OORP on chat servers about what to do with Freeport 1 (FYI there was/is) You would of known this had you just made a message. Instead you just made up your own story and decided to go with it and then expected everyone to just be on board with it.
Again
steam roll ? over a year? Still rolling around the NPCs and factions stuff when all a guy whanted was to get players to go to omegas lololol
I assumed the Freeport was abandoned cause the CoF dissolved and no one ansered any of the RP related to it isnt it obvious? now acuse me of being powergaming , im a damn wizard to know its not abandoned when no one ansers.
I made several messages about it no one said anything.
Anyway its pointless to continue this discussion, everything related to the bases, im done lol
The Vagrants never pretended to have a say on any NPC asset (except Moros, because Vagrants made that an NPC asset). Try to be clever somewhere else, Hassl.
RP is worth it, if you have doubts about it - go and create a different character of a different sphere, you may enjoy it more than you do your current, don't be afraid of trying over and over again.
also, roleplay shouldn't be necessarily oriented on achieving something, in some instances, you shall seek to develop your own character.
if you seek for something global, you should cooperate with the others on it, i.e. - create a faction, gather the activity, gain officialdom and then you may actually affect things.
also Hass let's not go into there
(10-13-2023, 12:51 AM)Haste Wrote: This is a feature as most Discovery players would not receive a response from women.
Dude, if we get down to the RP:
I rp around Freeport and you said your the admin as CoF inRP
and i shushed my mouth about it and RPed around other stuff
and then you dissolve CoF
was about the same time, but still means nothing, it dissolved anyways period.
You expect me to go by the rules CoF left behind? No chance,
the remaining oficial factions couldnt care less about Freeport 1
INRP i made Zero impacting decisions involving Freeport
So as i see it i done my part, peapole didnt ansered man...
I understand you are the CoF guy and understand what you might feel when you see me acting lie i own the thing
My intent was to give players a reason to go there, like an ongoing forever event that would basicaly never end, just make up a list of comodities players can bring, put a lil money on top to make it profitable, brings movement ya know, transports back and forth,this will bring some corsairs or other pirates into the picture too, rather than have my friends wondering around sirius kinda bring peapole to them so they can start interacting with other players wille not doing crap flying Oficial factions and such.
If you see i never refer to any groups in particular or decide anything involving the NPC activity.
I ment no harm and didnt whant to piss anyone, i just got anoyed at the fact that no oe replied to my posts about the freeport and you dont seriously expect me to folow th RP of a dead faction do you?
No i dont whant to admin the Freeport in that way you guys do, because the station itself doesnt make much sense these days
if you break it down inRP
The population of the station is ridicuous, before the update already didnt make sense that only around 700 peapole lived in it
After the update, well chek this out:
The former Freeport only living areas were in the center dome and the 2 floors from the 3 total i the bridge like thingy and it took 700 something persons
From my analisys of the new structure, each of those new cilinder like can take 3 bridges from former freeport, there are 9 of those i think and 3 extra domes.
so you tell me, 700 persons? lol
If it was up to me it be like this:
You whant to administrate a NPC base? Ok bro, no problem.
The base has this and this and this for sale there, your task, if you whant to administrate the NPC base is:
Transport every single comodity the base sells yourself from the nearest planet to the station,
means that the admins would need to put in the planet all the comodities needed and you, the administrator, need to put everything in the base yourself or with friends.
then there is the ships, that you would also have to build yourself for them to be available for other players to buy, and you dont chose, you build and transport what the base originaly had.
i gess the weapons and ships equipment should be left alone or no one will have anything on that base.
After too many players complain that you dont have the stuff you should have the admins remove your title of administrator.
And yes you should be entitled to the base bank tho you can not change original prices on anything transport it there, sell it and get the money it cant only be work without any income.
And the pirates will know were to find you remenber that.
So... still whant to be Admin for a NPC base?
PS: Thestation was abandoned man , no one cared about it hehe
Best regards
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