' Wrote:Hehe i think both reasons might cause some bad blood, research of said place can open old wounds so certain companies in liberty might be unhappy from negative reputation and its in the way of smuggling route, so lawful publicity can make pirates very unhappy with you but that planet is indeed perfect place for outpost that would research dark matter clouds etc and/or clear scrap around and perhaps could get official support if you have good contacts in liberty (no idea here)
Well it's an interesting thought, I will speak to some Congress chaps as well and sort something out. However, the RP opportunities if this can be done properly are quite nice, if I do say so myself. And maybe the Official Liberty people can get involved too, it's something to think about at least.
Try to find an 'unused' station like we do. We run Ames to do research and rent lab. It's a very nice Rp.
Why should purchasing an unused planet cause trouble? If done properly it could be something new. Doesn't have to be research, if that's a touchy subject. However, there are not many "unused" bases that would serve the purpose that Chisos or a location near it would serve. I was even thinking of going into co-operation with DSE in a venture like this. A proper processing plant which can then analyze the scrap and other wreckage and reuse whats over. It's an entirely feasible model and works well with current RP.
If allows use of that space and is very close to the Junkers, who mine the scrap, and is also close enough to all the radiation clouds to serve as a central locale. Please, if there are problems to this, point them out. Saying that it will cause problems doesn't help as I have no way to correct that without knowing what problems you are talking about.
Would pirates or Liberty house really have that much of an issue, none of them use the planet or its orbit for anything at all and probably never will. Maybe the Xenos would have a problem but that would add to the RP, not detract from it and if Liberty firms are involved it could branch off in entirely new directions that I haven't even thought of yet.
Quote:Solutions or positive/useful criticisms please.
Okey
General fact :
so a planet is a massive amount of matter. If house didn't use/harvest it it's because It'll be to costly.
But If someone else said I'll do it, the house will be okey put that will be under our control. Then they will be conflict/trouble. If resource are found The house will want it.
Second general fact : Look at pensylvania. Zoner ( who are neutral) claimed it. Liberty said : No. And as soon as the zoner settled it Problem appeared since claiming a planet will not pleased all your neighborhood.
Wiki quote
Quote: Liberty, of course, was aware of their progress, unwilling to allow an independent colony to arise within its borders.
Quote: they have to admit that any attempts to overthrow the Liberty reign will result in a war with the nearby House, leading to destruction of their new world.
The problem is : Your rp will be limited AND controlled by House .
Concering Chiros :
A hellish world of freezing nights and burning days, devoid of any life. Terraforming is impossible and settlement infeasible.
General fact :
so a planet is a massive amount of matter. If house didn't use/harvest it it's because It'll be to costly.
But If someone else said I'll do it, the house will be okey put that will be under our control. Then they will be conflict/trouble. If resource are found The house will want it.
Second general fact : Look at pensylvania. Zoner ( who are neutral) claimed it. Liberty said : No. And as soon as the zoner settled it Problem appeared since claiming a planet will not pleased all your neighborhood.
Wiki quote
The problem is : Your rp will be limited AND controlled by House .
Concering Chiros :
A hellish world of freezing nights and burning days, devoid of any life. Terraforming is impossible and settlement infeasible.
Um, don't mean to sound rude, but have you read all the posts? It ain't going to be terraformed, it ain't going to be a new settlement with many hundreds of people. It's like claiming Pluto and the United States or China going bonkers over what effectively counts as nothing.
It's not more expensive to place a station there than any where else. The radiation cloud doesn't cover the surrounding area of the planet and the planet also provides a certain level of protection. I also don't mind if my RP is limited by house laws, I actually want to get them involved too. It's about time something serious was done in that region. After how many years and it has still not moved any closer to being cleared up.
Also, the planet in Penni is habitable, i.e. HUGE difference. This one is not hospitable for massive settlement and if a base was to be built on the planet itself, it would have to be underground and self-sufficient with regard to food, water and breathable air. Something a small community could do efficiently once the initial expense has been undertaken.
I don't even really need to buy the planet but a lease or something would be great, if all goes to plan then perhaps something more concrete can be done in future. It's just an RP idea.
' Wrote:What's the ruling on an independent buying a planet in role-play? Is it allowed, what are the ramifications and so forth? Please note, I don't mean planets that are currently lived on. I mean ones that cannot be terraformed and are not actually used by the governments themselves.
I've tried something along these lines, in getting IMG mining rights on Pecos, Pennsylvania. Not for terraforming, but for mining purposes, as it's infocard states that resources exist but Liberty companies didn't want to mine it due to the high costs involved.
It kinda fizzled out. You will need the permission of the local government and likely will still fall under House rule (basically becoming a private civilian entity within sovereign space, but not exempt from it's law). If you're close to any unlawful hives, it helps to get their permit too... either by bribing or making some concessions.
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' Wrote:I've tried something along these lines, in getting IMG mining rights on Pecos, Pennsylvania. Not for terraforming, but for mining purposes, as it's infocard states that resources exist but Liberty companies didn't want to mine it due to the high costs involved.
It kinda fizzled out. You will need the permission of the local government and likely will still fall under House rule (basically becoming a private civilian entity within sovereign space, but not exempt from it's law). If you're close to any unlawful hives, it helps to get their permit too... either by bribing or making some concessions.
Do you mind if we discuss your attempt? I would like to get as much usable feedback as I can get and this sounds like the best opportunity to get it.
' Wrote:Um, don't mean to sound rude, but have you read all the posts? It ain't going to be terraformed, it ain't going to be a new settlement with many hundreds of people. It's like claiming Pluto and the United States or China going bonkers over what effectively counts as nothing.
It's not more expensive to place a station there than any where else. The radiation cloud doesn't cover the surrounding area of the planet and the planet also provides a certain level of protection. I also don't mind if my RP is limited by house laws, I actually want to get them involved too. It's about time something serious was done in that region. After how many years and it has still not moved any closer to being cleared up.
Also, the planet in Penni is habitable, i.e. HUGE difference. This one is not hospitable for massive settlement and if a base was to be built on the planet itself, it would have to be underground and self-sufficient with regard to food, water and breathable air. Something a small community could do efficiently once the initial expense has been undertaken.
I don't even really need to buy the planet but a lease or something would be great, if all goes to plan then perhaps something more concrete can be done in future. It's just an RP idea.
I used that as exemple. But what I mean is : As soon as you will make profit Liberty will be very interesting in take your 'station'.
I used penny example to show that liberty is not happy with foreigner station. They already have problem with freeport and even Junker station time to time.
So As I said in my first post, It sound like a good idea. But if you want rp you will be served.
It's a roleplay thing.
You can yell that you own something but unless you can enforce that ownership, either through legal means or illegal means, then it's worthless.
Of course, if no one contests your ownership then there's no worry anyway.
Sirius Robotics has talked to el Omicroners and purchased Planet Pygar.
Currently the whole thing is on hold while I finish some work.
Anyone is free to contest such a purchase, since ownership is only a concept with no actual meaning outside of laws and boundaries provided.
It would be easier to attain such a thing as an unlawful force, rather than a lawful one. But, it would harder to keep it that way. No real or in RP benefits would exist though, except for the pleasure of "owning a planet".