Right, I do think in long terms this would be good for server. As a Order| faction leader and as all other leaders, I do have work concerning it, and I am not sure would I be able to handle this aswell, but I assume it wouldn't be much time consuming, I mean how long does it take for 5,6 people to give votes, you just need to give your voice once, and your part is done.
I am not sure is this the right way to restrict capitals, but it is a good try, I would certainly like to see less battleships and more cruisers.
So I think this restriction should work only for battleships and heavy carriers. Let the cruisers roam around.
On all SF films/series you see cruisers doing the main battles, while battleships fight rarely, and show up only for special needs.
It is decent paperwork though, someone needs to monitor all this.
' Wrote:Take ownership of your ideas and the criticism they receive. An idea presented by an alt account to keep a person separate from the consequences of the ideas he holds completely devalues the idea itself.
You talking clear nonsense here. Individual personality shouldn't effect discusion and argumentation at all. In Logic subject, well discipline of valid argumentation it's called 'argumentum ad hominem'. It ussaly comes with nonsense counter-argumets which strikes source of argument but not argument itself and similiar.
Also we must take into account that alot of people around here can't discuss anything. They flame or go onto pseudointelectual criticism which basicly serves no porpuse, but only to lame a person who is trying to discuss something. While not suggesting anything how to improve the current stance.
And you damn wonder, why a guy uses alternate account? becouse he is forced too.
ech. I support this idea. I think there is plenty of people who have good sense of rp and have enough time or atleast wish to work it out. Only thing lacking is will... just mare will to do something instead of searching who to blame.
No. Maybe.. maaaaaaayyyybbbeee it would be helpful IN THE LONG RUN. But that would just depend on the faction leaders, admins, QQers, lolwuts, and etc. So uh.. Ya.. I don't want it. I like my cruiser. And i like knowing that when i trade I'm trading to earn a bigger ship. But if this idea was implemented, we'd all be saying, "Oh boy! I finally have enough credits for a cap! Just 6 months left to go until the big bosses decide whether i should have it or not! yay!" And that's IF this new "application process" thingy doesn't get closed like the SRPs.
' Wrote:dab, i am awaiting your suggestions. saying it wont work doesnt help at all.
I haven't given a suggestion because the current policy regarding caps is the only one that enables freedom and roleplay for all those who wish to attempt it. For all this QQ about non-RP caps, there are an equal number of in-RP caps. Many try at the very least, and most succeed to a degree. You just hear about the lolcaps more because that's what people complain about. I don't think it needs changed.
No. There are far, far more snub craft and transports that don't roleplay, and are actually harmful to the server environment then capitol ships. If you want to be fair and just, go include them in your system as well.
' Wrote:I haven't given a suggestion because the current policy regarding caps is the only one that enables freedom and roleplay for all those who wish to attempt it. For all this QQ about non-RP caps, there are an equal number of in-RP caps. Many try at the very least, and most succeed to a degree. You just hear about the lolcaps more because that's what people complain about. I don't think it needs changed.
' Wrote:A violation for what exactly? Rule 0.0? Strictly rulebooking, there's no server rule against stomping around anywhere with a cap - although most factions will take offense if a non-allied cap enters their ZOI, by whatever intent, unannounced. FR5 could still work for those caps who -really- manage to piss off their respective factions, but it's rarely used to boot one of your own indy caps from the faction. In fact, I see more caps "defecting" then being booted.
Well, are we talking about people who legitimately do not know what they are doing, or are we talking about people who prescribe to a different form of Roleplay than you prefer? For people who don't understand the rules, you can talk to them, help them, and enjoy the game with them, but for people who prescribe to a different form of Roleplay than you prefer, you can only Roleplay with them. If someone wants to jump into a fight between two Fighters on his Cruiser, that's his choice, and it can be just as legitimate a Roleplay decision as another fighter jumping in on that fight. If we look back to vanilla, there's big precedence for that kind of thing, and by big I mean Battleship Unity big. Yes, remember the 6th or 7th mission where the LN brings out a Battleship and 2 Cruisers to block the escape of two criminals? If someone wants to portray that kind of force on his Cruiser, you can RP more with him (which may or may not involve a FR 5 if you disagree so vehemently), or you can sulk in private about how there was a "lolcap" which you disagreed with.
And as to a cap romping around anywhere, it's called a ZoI, and people need to stick to the ZoI of their ID. If that is a problem, you can report a person for being out of his ZoI.
' Wrote:Ok this is a long shot away fro mthe orriginal idea, but:
On other forums, I have seen that you can give reputation points to forum members.
You can vote to give them a bad or a good reputation, anonymously.
Then each member will have a reputation from -5 to 5 points.
If this is possible with this forum software, could you grant capital ships and SRPs based on reputation that someone gets.
Everyone who has a reputation of +1 is granted to fly cruiser or larger, who ever get +3 gets a SRP license.
Possible?
In a perfect world, maybe, but especially in a forum with so much private devotion to a character, it just isn't reliable. Response Bias riddles things like this, and a forum reputation system would just be asking for abuse in this regard.
[8:32:45 PM] Dusty Lens: Oh no, let me get that. Hello? Oh it's my grandma. She says to be roleplay.
[12:49:19 AM] Elgatodiablo: You know its nice that you have all that proof and all, Bacon... but I just don't believe you.
I'm pretty sure that anyone that posted in this thread can provide countless screenshots from each parts of Sirius in which someone is spewing OORP stuff in system chat and generally acting like a douche after grinding for some hours in order to get that ship to grant them pseudo-authority, self-esteem and whatnot
Now, I know that everyone that posted in this thread is an established roleplayer that uses a little thing which I like VERY VERY much called common-sense.
And now, the question.
Why should MY game-time, and yours for that matter, be ruined by such an individual(or individuals, as it's more likely the case) who does not care about Role Play, does not bother to read the forums and most of the times has no clue of the rules even if they are spammed on the freaking screen...
WHY?
Some of us have jobs and other real life things to do, we come here to unwind and have some fun.
Now, I agree to some of you that say that you can ignore those that act unaccordingly and go your merry way having your own fun. Does not work all the time and it leads to some bottled anger and frustration, which creates threads like this one, however LEGITIMATE the reaction.
Sure, you can try to teach them and spend the time helping them get better, some of us do not have that luxury and I'm pretty sure even that will fail some times, which will lead to more sanctions to process.
The question though, remains. Those that advocate that freedom they speak so highly of... answer it. While at it, tell me where is my freedom to have fun and actually use this game server the way it was supposed to - Roleplay.
' Wrote:You know that **** has hit the fan when notequinoxe makes a post in an oorp discussion forum.
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