<Z>- Information + #Feedback ( Unfinished)

[Zen_Mechanics]

We can police our own Bases, Ships and Zoner/Gaurd Systems, this is sadly mis-understood, we are not here to be punching bags for any idiot with a ship and guns.

Might want to clarify that in the original faction information then.

Past that, the tag of [Z]oner seems a bit far. Why not just [Z] or Zoner- to prevent unnecessary characters?

If you're just mainly staying in Theta and 74 and protecting these areas, I doubt you are going to step on anyone's toes too much. I haven't seen anyone out near those parts for a while.

You might consider putting up some technology usage. Like what ships/guns people will use regularly.

I am not sure whether this vanilla Zoner militia/escorting force will last, but assuming you guys prune things and form things here and there, it could be interesting. Wait and see, I suppose.

Yes, i'll add the tech usage and so on, but because were doing some changes ( killing bases, changing "leadership" the defined goals are not really "set".
More of us want to RP a new begining to which we hope to restore the old zoner councial ( that is to unite zoner factions, not into 1 single group, but to have a councial with a repesentitive for each group ) - now thats just an idea but as you said, we will see ( and I think OSI damages more than a "angry zoner syndrom" scenario ) - maybe they should clear that thing out so that other zoners can trade freeley without having a hessian concerned about osi zoners supplying corsair bases ).

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[Gypsie]

That's all well and good but our group has been here for like almost a year now, way before the "other" zoner groups, we haven't made the group public thats all. And I think sindrom is right, something new is always a good thing.
You gotta have an open mind.
And i care less about other zoner groups, you have chosen your path, the taz has choosen otherwise - zoners are not a house, i can come up with millions of different zoner factions, The more the better, more interactions and more RP.

I somehow feel that you think you are being attacked. I just wanted to point out where an organized Zoner Group is needed. Don't want to occupy the upper Taus? Don't worry mate, someone with a more accurate sense of belonging will do it eventually.

I just warn you that sitting in the Omicrons to wait for some other Zoner faction to rot so you can take their place is a very boring endeavour.

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[princeps008]

Damn this is confusing. Is there a difference between this group and the Zoners of Omicron-74 !? If yes, go ahead and make some changes (tag and stuff), if not, work that out in RP cause it seems there are some posts that connect the two groups and other posts that don't.

More than that, I will have to agree on what has been said regarding Diplomacy. Some factions/groups have never been contacted by you for such deals so stating such agreements might come uncomfortable.

Oh, one last thing,

And i care less about other zoner groups, you have chosen your path, the taz has choosen otherwise - zoners are not a house, i can come up with millions of different zoner factions, The more the better, more interactions and more RP.

rethink this statement please and maybe another answer will come in your mind.

Good luck

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[n00bl3t]

And i care less about other zoner groups, you have chosen your path, the taz has choosen otherwise - zoners are not a house, i can come up with millions of different zoner factions, The more the better, more interactions and more RP.

rethink this statement please and maybe another answer will come in your mind.

Good luck

Why should he rethink it?

It's an accurate summary of Zoners for the most part. With such splintering, groups might compete or share certain areas of space.

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Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.

[princeps008]

And i care less about other zoner groups, you have chosen your path, the taz has choosen otherwise - zoners are not a house, i can come up with millions of different zoner factions, The more the better, more interactions and more RP.

rethink this statement please and maybe another answer will come in your mind.

Good luck

Why should he rethink it?

It's an accurate summary of Zoners for the most part. With such splintering, groups might compete or share certain areas of space.

Well, simply because your group/faction story is based on what already exists in game and you can't just say 'And i care less about other zoner groups'. I believe we are not far from reaching the point where we have zoner groups/factions for all domains and what will come will be just the same idea under a different name. I do agree that there should be as many as possible but if they are not well organized by having a realistic overview of the game and they just use a tag/iff and fly around, well...call it pew pew. We already have pew pew guys flying in zoner BS without having a clue of what they are doing and I definitely don't want to see that happening with groups that represent Zoners. You don't want bad RP, I think people had enough with that.
So, having that said, quality not quantity is what I was referring to.

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[n00bl3t]

And i care less about other zoner groups, you have chosen your path, the taz has choosen otherwise - zoners are not a house, i can come up with millions of different zoner factions, The more the better, more interactions and more RP.

rethink this statement please and maybe another answer will come in your mind.

Good luck

Why should he rethink it?

It's an accurate summary of Zoners for the most part. With such splintering, groups might compete or share certain areas of space.

Well, simply because your group/faction story is based on what already exists in game and you can't just say 'And i care less about other zoner groups'. I believe we are not far from reaching the point where we have zoner groups/factions for all domains and what will come will be just the same idea under a different name. I do agree that there should be as many as possible but if they are not well organized by having a realistic overview of the game and they just use a tag/iff and fly around, well...call it pew pew. We already have pew pew guys flying in zoner BS without having a clue of what they are doing and I definitely don't want to see that happening with groups that represent Zoners. You don't want bad RP, I think people had enough with that.
So, having that said, quality not quantity is what I was referring to.

My group? Just to clarify, I am not a part of this group at all.

As for pew pew final nail argument, I believe they said they only pew in limited systems in defence of bases. Which is, funnily enough, what their ID allows. A very limited ID I might add, so limited that pew that is unwarranted will probably result in a sanction as opposed to all semblances of RP crumbling away beneath us.

As for not caring about other groups, every group has an agenda in staying alive. Trying to bag on an up and coming group to stay official is in their best interests.

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Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.

[Zen_Mechanics]

And i care less about other zoner groups, you have chosen your path, the taz has choosen otherwise - zoners are not a house, i can come up with millions of different zoner factions, The more the better, more interactions and more RP.

rethink this statement please and maybe another answer will come in your mind.

Good luck

Why should he rethink it?

It's an accurate summary of Zoners for the most part. With such splintering, groups might compete or share certain areas of space.

Well, simply because your group/faction story is based on what already exists in game and you can't just say 'And i care less about other zoner groups'. I believe we are not far from reaching the point where we have zoner groups/factions for all domains and what will come will be just the same idea under a different name. I do agree that there should be as many as possible but if they are not well organized by having a realistic overview of the game and they just use a tag/iff and fly around, well...call it pew pew. We already have pew pew guys flying in zoner BS without having a clue of what they are doing and I definitely don't want to see that happening with groups that represent Zoners. You don't want bad RP, I think people had enough with that.
So, having that said, quality not quantity is what I was referring to.

Ah, so now were just pew pew pew is that it? As I said, I care less about other zoner factions, OSI have choosen to stick to 49 and be a trading company, thats their problem not mine, they don't call the shots and i dont even need their approval. I wish I could but from what ive seen, only these fellas think they have the right to establish a zoner faction.
I don't like that attitude, instead of complaining I have yet to see a comment of a "gl" -
( actually sindroms and nooblet did comment niceley ).
And coming from a sane family, zoners have chosen to live outside the colonies and yet for some reason OSI does the opposite,
Define ur RP now.
And regarding an "orignized" zoner body, that's not going to happen, unless you would like to convert all zoners and become a TAZ, or be a mellow and start trading under the zoner banner because whether you like it or not, they are NOT zoners they are simply Kishiro with zoner papers and vessels.
Like I said, I don't have this ill feeling towards other people such as TAZ or OSI, but that seems to be in a very short supply here.

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[princeps008]

To: n00bl3t

I didn't say "you" as you personally. I was referring to anyone that starts building a group/faction story/background. I didn't even refer to this [Z]oner group or whatever they are called as being pew pew. I was just presenting a real problem that has been bothering everyone. Sorry for not making myself understood from the begining.

To: Tel-Aviv

Despite the fact that here people are discussing the situation of your still non-existing group you keep yelling about the OSI and bla bla. First of all, I haven't said a word about them which brings me to the conclusion that you have a personal problem with their faction. Still, I'm not here to defend them, but no-one achieved what they have when it comes to diplomatic relations in time. So, pay respect to something that some people only dream about and it seems you are one of them. This aggressive attitude is not going to get you anywhere. People are here to offer you feedback not to kill you. You asked for judges and you have them but you start to complain. That's not the way to do it. Stay calm and analyze all opinions. Some might be good, some bad, but that is feedback. Don't start throwing rocks at people that you have no clue about cause trust me, you won't get far with that.

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[Zen_Mechanics]

It's okay no harm was meant, i understand that and again thanks for the feedback, keep it coming

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[Thyrzul]

If you don't welcome feedback, why this thread then?

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