<Z>- Information + #Feedback ( Unfinished)

[Zen_Mechanics]

<Minor update>

1. Tag has been changed to <ZA> ( Zoner Alliance )
2. We have aided the AI's to construct a new base
3. Char names are also updated with the new tag

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Were fools to make war on our brothers in arms.

[sindroms]

The name leads to believe you are a group of zoners from all around...a zoner Congress, if you will.....

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[Sad]

Some faction names may have bad k[A]rma, you know.

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[24.04.13, 21:50:22] Silver "The Bitch" (Kaze): Cahoone and Ashfield, under a tree.
[24.04.13, 21:50:46] Silver "The Bitch" (Kaze): Here comes Cooper to make it a three.
[24.04.13, 21:51:03] Silver "The Bitch" (Kaze): (cool)

[Omicron]

This is this time of the year again, for real this time. Good name for good times if you like fighting, given its history.

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[Zen_Mechanics]

This is this time of the year again, for real this time. Good name for good times if you like fighting, given its history.

Fighting I can do with other non-related characters but yeah that's going to happen anyway, hence the new "version" of the omicroners, just a bit more friendly with others ( actually squids and SR are the only ones that are considered hostile ).

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Were fools to make war on our brothers in arms.

[aerelm]

Looking through your diplomacy, I figured it's worth asking:
- Your reasons for listing Hessians as unfriendly?
- How are you friendly with a group which disbanded long before your group even appeared? (Mando mercs)

Other than that, I'm gonna toss in one more question: Apart from all the RP stuff and considering nothing but the gameplay of this faction you're working on, what exactly are you planing to do ingame, and how would it make you any different from any other Zoner group out there?

[Agmen of Eladesor]

They were told to stop by Administrators?

Or is my memory failing me too?

It was settled diplomatically, with the Zoners renouncing publicly their alliance with the Order while keeping it secretly. This effectively gave the Core a victory - AFTER the Core ended up with a non-agression pact with the Corsairs and there were certain other ... things ... with the Keepers that happened. The Core had to shoot Zoner npc's so they would be red with the Zoner ships, and we basically went in and took control of O-74 away from the Zoners such that they couldn't even leave the shipyards.

The only admin intervention was in getting the rep-ninja's adjusted as need be while things were hostile.

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Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.

[Agmen of Eladesor]

We extend our hands and thank you for the valuable service in the omicrons, however we dislike your attitude with The Order. Your ignorance to persue nomad technologies will only cause more trouble, Do not bring any type of Nomad technology or remains/wrecks unless intended for Research ( From which then it will be transfered to our research station ).

There's absolutely no way this will end well.
Threatening the Core never does.
But you did said you were around for a long time, so I'm sure you are aware of what happaned the last time Zoners and Core waged war on eachother.

I dont make threats, I execute them, being core does not let you pool the strings in places where you are considered nothing.
Up until now people step on the zoners like ants because we were like ants but thats about to change, action causes re-action and that also applies to "core" or god or any other supernatural hocus-pocus whats so ever and even any fancy variation on that theme.

You are going to make such a good zoner.
But no, the Core, believe it or not, tries to treat zoners well.
However, the indy zoners around in Omicrons don't share our views.
They keep grinding anti-core missions, smuggling nomads remains, and even aiding a certain third party against us.
You know, mostly things that have nothing to do with the zoner way of life.
Oh, did I mentioned all of the above are executed in Nephs?
So yes, if and when your group becomes the next wannabe owners of the Omicrons, expect people coming for you.
A lot of them, too.

By all means, im looking forward to it; the whole idea is to attract attention both friendly and dare i say un-friendly.
Each side has its faults, Indie Core and Indie Zoner, that's not what this is about and if you hate zoners doing core missions, do something about it.

I'm just going to throw this out there. The Core has no issue with Zoners who lie to us and tell us that they're neutral to the Order like they are with us, even though we know they're friends with the Order and secretly hate us.

However, if you're blatantly obvious about it, then we're going to have fun. The first question that comes immediately to mind is, do you have the approval of Cam to make statements regarding Freeport 11? If not, then you're pretty well shut down in Delta.

The second question is - have you referenced what happened the LAST time someone irritated the Core by being this blatant about it? Zoners are not, nor do they have in role-play, access to effectively unlimited warships. The Core does - even if we took a hit last time. And you KNOW from history that we're not above signing agreements with people we don't like (specifically the Corsairs) so that both of us can be shooting at you.

You've flat out said that your area of operations with warships is Theta - that's not going to sit well with Corsairs.

You mention Nomad technology - you do realize that we're one of the few factions in the game actually AUTHORIZED to use Nomad technology on our ships? Are you planning on shooting up all our Manta's that happen to be flying through with Nomad guns equipped?

That, and of course, one final minor detail that being war like is completely against Zoner philosophy - you're effectively telling the Core that you want to be at war with us, which is so OORP from the Zoner perspective that it's not funny.

Having said all that regarding specifically your diplomacy regarding my faction - turning to the rest of your post, it appears that you also didn't bother to ask someone who actually speaks English to proof read anything you wrote. Seriously, did you just run everything through Babelfish or something? My god, this reads like it was written by someone in elementary school. Have you never heard of spell check?

I'm not even going to bother with the main thing - just the last bit.

the omicrons safe through diplomacy and millitary might, too

MILITARY ...

Artofficial intelligence

ARTIFICIAL ...

1.Every person carrying the flag will be administered and inspected to ensure that they follow our "group" legal context.
2.Act of aggression towards the machines from other zoners are in no way or shape represents us and any issue regarding individual zoners can be addressed personaly to them
3.Zoner installations are off-limits to none-zoners with the notable exception of FreeportXV

Line 1 makes no sense. Line 2 also make no sense. Line 3 - non-zoners ; Freeport XV (put the space in there)

We extend our hands and thank you for the valuable service in the omicrons, however we dislike your attitude with The Order. Your ignorance to persue nomad technologies will only cause more trouble, Do not bring any type of Nomad technology or remains/wrecks unless intended for Research ( From which then it will be transfered to our research station ).


pursue ... and seriously, that's our established role-play for years. Telling us that we can't do that ... when your role-play is supposed to attempt to be neutral to everyone ... really doesn't sit well or fit in, honestly.

Gunside Camera is installed in every vessel, Violence is not the anwser, but respond to it in kind.

Violence often is the answer ...

Any "Angry Zoner" Syndroms are not welcomed here,

What about Syndromes?

both are intotwine and are

So they only drink wine? No other alcohol?

If you think I'm being unnecessarily harsh with my remarks ... too bad. There's a reason why you lost every argument you made with me in the other threads we've communicated in - those you actually responded to, instead of just ignoring. I don't believe in molly coddling kids who need to learn to grow up - I believe in spanking their butts and teaching them the right way to do things. You want our respect, re-write this mess so that it makes sense, and keep your role-play in line with what Zoner role-play has been established to be on this server. We're not going to change the rules to fit your whining - and we're not going to change the background lore and retcon things because you want to play warrior with a faction that's NOT SUPPOSED to play warrior.

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Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.

[n00bl3t]

They were told to stop by Administrators?

Or is my memory failing me too?

It was settled diplomatically, with the Zoners renouncing publicly their alliance with the Order while keeping it secretly. This effectively gave the Core a victory - AFTER the Core ended up with a non-agression pact with the Corsairs and there were certain other ... things ... with the Keepers that happened. The Core had to shoot Zoner npc's so they would be red with the Zoner ships, and we basically went in and took control of O-74 away from the Zoners such that they couldn't even leave the shipyards.

The only admin intervention was in getting the rep-ninja's adjusted as need be while things were hostile.

Must have been pretty crap control, since I used to sit in Omicron 74 and I never got destroyed by a Core ship.

Would be nice to blow up some Core ships though.

Thank you for the refresher though. N[A]Pping with Corsairs. I forgot how much of a joke that was.

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Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.

[Zen_Mechanics]

There's absolutely no way this will end well.
Threatening the Core never does.
But you did said you were around for a long time, so I'm sure you are aware of what happaned the last time Zoners and Core waged war on eachother.

I dont make threats, I execute them, being core does not let you pool the strings in places where you are considered nothing.
Up until now people step on the zoners like ants because we were like ants but thats about to change, action causes re-action and that also applies to "core" or god or any other supernatural hocus-pocus whats so ever and even any fancy variation on that theme.

You are going to make such a good zoner.
But no, the Core, believe it or not, tries to treat zoners well.
However, the indy zoners around in Omicrons don't share our views.
They keep grinding anti-core missions, smuggling nomads remains, and even aiding a certain third party against us.
You know, mostly things that have nothing to do with the zoner way of life.
Oh, did I mentioned all of the above are executed in Nephs?
So yes, if and when your group becomes the next wannabe owners of the Omicrons, expect people coming for you.
A lot of them, too.

By all means, im looking forward to it; the whole idea is to attract attention both friendly and dare i say un-friendly.
Each side has its faults, Indie Core and Indie Zoner, that's not what this is about and if you hate zoners doing core missions, do something about it.

I'm just going to throw this out there. The Core has no issue with Zoners who lie to us and tell us that they're neutral to the Order like they are with us, even though we know they're friends with the Order and secretly hate us.

However, if you're blatantly obvious about it, then we're going to have fun. The first question that comes immediately to mind is, do you have the approval of Cam to make statements regarding Freeport 11? If not, then you're pretty well shut down in Delta.

The second question is - have you referenced what happened the LAST time someone irritated the Core by being this blatant about it? Zoners are not, nor do they have in role-play, access to effectively unlimited warships. The Core does - even if we took a hit last time. And you KNOW from history that we're not above signing agreements with people we don't like (specifically the Corsairs) so that both of us can be shooting at you.

You've flat out said that your area of operations with warships is Theta - that's not going to sit well with Corsairs.

You mention Nomad technology - you do realize that we're one of the few factions in the game actually AUTHORIZED to use Nomad technology on our ships? Are you planning on shooting up all our Manta's that happen to be flying through with Nomad guns equipped?

That, and of course, one final minor detail that being war like is completely against Zoner philosophy - you're effectively telling the Core that you want to be at war with us, which is so OORP from the Zoner perspective that it's not funny.

Having said all that regarding specifically your diplomacy regarding my faction - turning to the rest of your post, it appears that you also didn't bother to ask someone who actually speaks English to proof read anything you wrote. Seriously, did you just run everything through Babelfish or something? My god, this reads like it was written by someone in elementary school. Have you never heard of spell check?

I'm not even going to bother with the main thing - just the last bit.

the omicrons safe through diplomacy and millitary might, too

MILITARY ...

Artofficial intelligence

ARTIFICIAL ...

1.Every person carrying the flag will be administered and inspected to ensure that they follow our "group" legal context.
2.Act of aggression towards the machines from other zoners are in no way or shape represents us and any issue regarding individual zoners can be addressed personaly to them
3.Zoner installations are off-limits to none-zoners with the notable exception of FreeportXV

Line 1 makes no sense. Line 2 also make no sense. Line 3 - non-zoners ; Freeport XV (put the space in there)

We extend our hands and thank you for the valuable service in the omicrons, however we dislike your attitude with The Order. Your ignorance to persue nomad technologies will only cause more trouble, Do not bring any type of Nomad technology or remains/wrecks unless intended for Research ( From which then it will be transfered to our research station ).


pursue ... and seriously, that's our established role-play for years. Telling us that we can't do that ... when your role-play is supposed to attempt to be neutral to everyone ... really doesn't sit well or fit in, honestly.

Gunside Camera is installed in every vessel, Violence is not the anwser, but respond to it in kind.

Violence often is the answer ...

Any "Angry Zoner" Syndroms are not welcomed here,

What about Syndromes?

both are intotwine and are

So they only drink wine? No other alcohol?

If you think I'm being unnecessarily harsh with my remarks ... too bad. There's a reason why you lost every argument you made with me in the other threads we've communicated in - those you actually responded to, instead of just ignoring. I don't believe in molly coddling kids who need to learn to grow up - I believe in spanking their butts and teaching them the right way to do things. You want our respect, re-write this mess so that it makes sense, and keep your role-play in line with what Zoner role-play has been established to be on this server. We're not going to change the rules to fit your whining - and we're not going to change the background lore and retcon things because you want to play warrior with a faction that's NOT SUPPOSED to play warrior.

Glad to see you still have a sense of humor. So let me get this right here, up until now you had complete freedom in the omicrons but thats about to change.
You better own up to your mess and every shit you people do near our bases will not go un-noticed, and if it hurts your precious feelings, so much the better.
And please, explain " we're not going to change the rules " - are you stuck or do you have too much time on your hands? Nowhere in this thread suggested changing the rules, fix your personal issues and show some respect.
No one attacked your precious guild so you have no reason to attack us, and my arguement for pesruing nomad weapons does not mean we want the rules to be changed, or your precious rp to change it means you don't bring any of that stuff near our homes and comments like this will only get things worse but if you insist on doing that, if you insist on running to our homes with nomad technology knowning fully that we don't accept it, especialy if order pilots are right behind you.. well i'll bring nooblet to do that work.eel free to critisize,but not in this attitude thank you F

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Were fools to make war on our brothers in arms.