' Wrote:Speaking of consider under your friendly factions that you most likely wanted to add [Kishiro] as well, it's the trading wing of the KNF. So friendly with KNF should equal friendly with Kishiro. Other than that this has my stamp of approval and I welcome the additional rp into Kusari.
Hm... You should read about Kishiro and Samura a bit.. They are far from friendly..
Actually, Samura is going to issue Contracts on those Kishiro (KNF) traders, if they are going to RP it well.
Why? To destroy the competition.
Samura hates Kishiro.. Kishiro hates Samura.. No way for them to be friendly, ever.
And KNF should really consider about Trading under Samura, instead of Kishiro.. Because Samura is the backbone of Kusari government, Kishiro isn't..
Lucendez Wrote:
It is every Corsair's responsibility to die a beautiful death in defense of Crete, regardless of how OORP or how capwhoring the opposition is. Launch your fighter, joust the battlecruisers and die a beautiful death. Then, drink it down in the bar.
' Wrote:So far everything looks really good. I would like to see however the ship list cleared up. While Samura may build some Kusari Naval ships it is still best to check with the Navy before using military vehicles. Lotek (Adm. Sulu) is the guy to see in that case. Also if you can make a more polished relations list and really break it down you would be spot on.
Speaking of consider under your friendly factions that you most likely wanted to add [Kishiro] as well, it's the trading wing of the KNF. So friendly with KNF should equal friendly with Kishiro. Other than that this has my stamp of approval and I welcome the additional rp into Kusari.
' Wrote:Hm... You should read about Kishiro and Samura a bit.. They are far from friendly..
Actually, Samura is going to issue Contracts on those Kishiro (KNF) traders, if they are going to RP it well.
Why? To destroy the competition.
Samura hates Kishiro.. Kishiro hates Samura.. No way for them to be friendly, ever.
And KNF should really consider about Trading under Samura, instead of Kishiro.. Because Samura is the backbone of Kusari government, Kishiro isn't..
And also yes, Samura will forever hate Kishiro, they are another business, which means competition, and thats why Samura doesn't like Kishiro.
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Ah excellent, I would love to see an active Samura Industries faction. The GC will finally have its ultimate enemy to fight (although we already raid all the Samura installations and destroy on sight anything tagged/ID'ed Samura). Samura can expect no mercy when targeted by the Golden Chrysanthemums. We must teach those male chauvinistic swines a lesson, and hopefully disrupt their iron grip on the Shogunate!
You are making it sound like Kishiro and Samura would shoot each other....
I don't see it that way... the competition would be secret and hidden...place bounties on Kishiro traders yes.. but like one per week max... or even less.. and these should be a bit "undr the table" not like posting a hunt list on pirates (which you should do.. like KoF does).
But some other examples:
Kishiro trader is under attack in say Honshu.. and a Samura fighter is in system... I'd say he should come and help the trader.. maybe trowing some "look how Kishiro can't defend it's own traders alone"... or bragging how Samura helps protects Kusari in some after-action report.. but still help him.
The same goes with convoys with Kishiro... make them if there are some around (especially if KNF escorts are "commanding" you)... but keep some small "hostility" towards them.. but not like not helping them against pirates or leaving them behind.
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And my trader is Kishiro simply because I thought Samura is an organization involved in many more things... so some player faction will pick it sooner or later (though this way really soon:)
Igiss says: Martin, you give them a finger, they bite off your arm.
If you want to smuggle to Bretonia, dont smuggle in official convoys, perhaps use Hogosha to do it?
I thought Bounty Hunters are allowed to enter Kusari, there was a bounty on all pirates in Kusari, I think. Dont put big bounties though. A few millions on a person is ok. Just make many bounties. And do use Farmers for dirty work. Also, no open war with Kishiro. Its compettition, war from the shadows. Use ninjas, bribe Kisihiro employees, incorproate stuff and so on.:)
Hope this gets approved, best of luck. Get populated and sweep competittion.
' Wrote:If you want to smuggle to Bretonia, dont smuggle in official convoys, perhaps use Hogosha to do it?
Hogosha doesn't leave kusari...
and this "smuggling" is to Gain base in Edinburg..which means you go trough Tau31 ( which is very much KNF controlled.. then one jump and some 20k...
or... to Gran Canaria.. which means you evade Bretonia as well... never meet a Bretonian NPC...KNF has done this many times.. and I don't see any problem with that.
Igiss says: Martin, you give them a finger, they bite off your arm.
Hm, wrong. Hogosha leaves Kusari.. Their main destination is Luxury Liner Hawaii - where they buy Artifacts from Corsairs.
They also leave Kusari to pirate Smugglers/Traders in Taus or even Leeds (trough the JH).
FA on another hand doesn't leave Kusari.
Hogosha is probably the most successful smuggling organization in Sirius - next to Junkers.
So, it really makes sense to ask Hogosha for some smuggling favors, and give them something in return.
About Kishiro - Samura.. Well, it might be that way also, yes.
Problems in this RP will occur if [Kishiro] traders decide to RP it differently.
They report AFA to KNF, who of course believes Kishiro over Samura, because it's traders are in Kishiro.
But in RP, Samura should deny it, as well as AFA. Kishiro should complain, but nothing could be done legally.
KNF wouldn't react on AFA or Samura.
But, Kishiro can also place bounty on Samura traders..
If you [Kishiro] guys RP your Kishiro traders separately from your KNF characters - there shouldn't be a problem.
Quote:You are making it sound like Kishiro and Samura would shoot each other....
Well, they would love to shoot each other, yes.
But they can't, because they are keeping it behind the stage.
It's all nice and white on the surface, and they want to keep it that way.
The reason why I said that it would make more sense for your traders to be Samura is because Kishiro has no real power in Kusari government.
Samura has, they have their share in ruling over Kusari people.
And since KNF are connected with the government, it makes sense for you to fly Samura tagged traders.
P.S - government = shogunate.. That's what I meant.
Lucendez Wrote:
It is every Corsair's responsibility to die a beautiful death in defense of Crete, regardless of how OORP or how capwhoring the opposition is. Launch your fighter, joust the battlecruisers and die a beautiful death. Then, drink it down in the bar.
' Wrote:Well my trader is not [Kishiro] named .. but it has kishiro tag and id... and I do RP him separately...
don't know why KNF uses [Kishiro].
At one time, KNF's trader chars were all tagged [KNT]. But decisions were made to change them to "Kiretsu" tags for just the reasons stated.. to enhance RP and to separate them from any direct linkage or taint of collaboration. Why most have chosen Kishiro over Samura, I don't know; but the option was given to be either.