Ye ppl, maybe i can clarify some points?
1- The one cruiser dead, was me. If anyone still dont know, my connection really dont allow snub pvp (is horrible try to take snubs jumping around too with cruiser turrets, sure, but at least a cruiser wont die at first Wesker passage ) Apart connection issue, lets be realist here, what a chance my 4 months of playing give me against pilots like Wesker and Vasko?
2- The guy of 2nd Cruiser was there by my intructions, and was not asked "nicely" to get out, it seems, but thats our internal matter, really kudos on him, not for leaving fight by enemy instructions (???) but by logging when was already on bed.
3- If that was a L\ IMG closed event, no one bothered to say that, only message i got before have everyone on my ship was "you not welcome" like, that so clear, why an enemy would greet me and invite to lunch? Would maybe be better send instead a message direct to me saying: "L\-IMG event, please refrain from getting in" will not? That would be more clearer
4-Why any blue, mine, dock became issue in this game? Why ppl cant simple play the game? Wasnt glorious to me being exploded by a bunch of snubs (well, prolly some of the best around, but still fleas XD ) but no one will ever see me complaining about... if i go alone to Leeds, for example, i know beforehand i can very well end ganked by half Gallic fleet. In that case, ill try full cheetah and mortars behind but if i cant shake pursuers off, will die in a glorious explosion, respawn in any other system, and if fight was remarkable in any way, still send a kudos to ppl who participate (hint-im daily alone on Leeds come and get
so can we all please let this annoying chatting about fault and the like behind and get some fun???
Sorry for the wall, but... sigh
I was just happy that we managed to kill one, almost kill another and hurt a few people there. I went in to that fight knowing full well we were outskilled and expecting to die. Sometimes it's alright to take a loss.
I don't normally do this but kudos to the two L\- near Java earlier this evening that allowed for the duel against my IMG| fighter and kept it as a duel with no running to a base. Or shield running. Denying blues or even having the 2nd fighter jump me to make it a 2 v 1. So kudos to both of those guys and to the 2nd L\- that was there kudos to you for allowing me to dock after the 1st fight instead if saying oh what the hell die while you are near enough dry. This is the only decent interaction ive had with you guys though so its a slight inprovement.
and one of these pilots followed me to New Toyko so a duel started at within a few minutes all of these characters arrived at the seen making it a 6 v 1. So I called for backup which arrived making it 6 v 2. Which can be seen here.
Not long later there was a sarcastic comment from one of the pilots which did not make any sense inrp as I was playing a KNF character not IMG character. So an explanation on this would be nice.
It didn't take too long for us to get a 3rd pilot to try and even the numbers as your side had 4 fighters and 2 bombers. While we had 3 fighters by the end. But during this fight, the side I was on was giving you guys a "Fair" fight but it seems that this self-nuking, killing yourself, denying blues is a habbit of yours. While you are attempting to get officialldom denying blues for your enemies and claiming it is RP is stupid and a coward move. Docking on a base on the other hand makes more sense because you are able to get medical treatment where as if you just nuclear mine yourself in space you would be dead.
There where three witnesses including myself on this "Denying of blue" here. Here is another angle of this here.
This pilot also done it to deny the blue, but he is not wearing the L\- he may be one of your pilots so just a quiet word with him should be in order also.
[16.02.2017 19:48:15] Death: Umberto.Robina suffered a self-administered loadout error (Mine).
But again for a faction that is trying to get official, doing this oorp talks in system chat or going to /s and going SIT DOWN or something likes this.
[16.02.2017 19:33:32] L\-Edda.Paganini: How brave
[16.02.2017 19:34:05] IMG|Hit.Rock.Bottom: Say the 5 that jump on 1? *laughs*
[16.02.2017 19:34:17] Yamaguchi.The.Chimmy: Yeah, what he said.
[16.02.2017 19:34:35] L\-Edda.Paganini: All weapons fire at Shinagawa!
[16.02.2017 19:34:45] Yamaguchi.The.Chimmy: Like you will touch the shields of it with fighters.
In system is stupid, how could 4 fighters, 2 bombers even damage a station because I docked on it before an engagement even started. Please be more realist and not stupid/pathetic with a faction. I understand you guys are good at pvp but damn.
Is it the 10 million cash that makes L\- fly from Taus to Kusari, and makes L\-Edda.Paganini meta-follow my solo transport on my BD mission from NT, to Hokkaido, to Chugoku, Hiroshima, back to New Tokyo, while L\-Dante.di.Riva goes back from Hokkaido to NT to cover my way back from Hisohima gate? Or are L\- just happy to see me?
All of which obviously without a single scanner contact... purely "converging on target from multiple sides via player list" for longer than 10 minutes. If you want to check, here is the gallery, could not be bothered to put them into right order and link them one-by-one with comments. => http://imgur.com/a/V9F0U
Was pretty funny to watch, and pretty "try-hard" - exactly as I expected with the 10 mil incentive. While everybody uses the player list, there are some ways that are more or less debatable and cool/uncool.
How do you handle it?
Do we play playerlist cat&mouse like this from now on?
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Furthermore, transports have to get a demand, even with your 10 million "bounty hunting". Your ID cannot "hunt bounty", so you need to make that demand and go down the normal engagement rules. It is not possible to come into scanner range and go: "/l1" engagement message and jump in shooting against a transport - as it happened in this situation.
Better be careful there in the future, as the situations might be more clearcut (it's debatable whether you can just join the "stop" piracy by the BD, as you were not clearly identified as one party). So... just play carefully, as it might cause trouble next time - and less bad blood is better than more.
p.s. @Shaggy It's hard for me to take this serious considering all 4 of my last encounters with you ended up with having to shoot you while you hug cerberus PoB platforms, Battle Razor spamming Valor NPC bases and so on.
Furthermore accusing indies as being one of ours on "hidden" characters is just cheap.
(02-16-2017, 09:24 PM)Shaggy Wrote: Hi guys, after having a nice encounter with you guys in Tau 23 a few days ago, it seems it is a difference story today.
I was moving just chilling on my Kusari Fighter when I flew into these ships at Shinagawa Station in New Tokyo,
and one of these pilots followed me to New Toyko so a duel started at within a few minutes all of these characters arrived at the seen making it a 6 v 1. So I called for backup which arrived making it 6 v 2. Which can be seen here.
Not long later there was a sarcastic comment from one of the pilots which did not make any sense inrp as I was playing a KNF character not IMG character. So an explanation on this would be nice.
It didn't take too long for us to get a 3rd pilot to try and even the numbers as your side had 4 fighters and 2 bombers. While we had 3 fighters by the end. But during this fight, the side I was on was giving you guys a "Fair" fight but it seems that this self-nuking, killing yourself, denying blues is a habbit of yours. While you are attempting to get officialldom denying blues for your enemies and claiming it is RP is stupid and a coward move. Docking on a base on the other hand makes more sense because you are able to get medical treatment where as if you just nuclear mine yourself in space you would be dead.
There where three witnesses including myself on this "Denying of blue" here. Here is another angle of this here.
This pilot also done it to deny the blue, but he is not wearing the L\- he may be one of your pilots so just a quiet word with him should be in order also.
[16.02.2017 19:48:15] Death: Umberto.Robina suffered a self-administered loadout error (Mine).
But again for a faction that is trying to get official, doing this oorp talks in system chat or going to /s and going SIT DOWN or something likes this.
[16.02.2017 19:33:32] L\-Edda.Paganini: How brave
[16.02.2017 19:34:05] IMG|Hit.Rock.Bottom: Say the 5 that jump on 1? *laughs*
[16.02.2017 19:34:17] Yamaguchi.The.Chimmy: Yeah, what he said.
[16.02.2017 19:34:35] L\-Edda.Paganini: All weapons fire at Shinagawa!
[16.02.2017 19:34:45] Yamaguchi.The.Chimmy: Like you will touch the shields of it with fighters.
In system is stupid, how could 4 fighters, 2 bombers even damage a station because I docked on it before an engagement even started. Please be more realist and not stupid/pathetic with a faction. I understand you guys are good at pvp but damn.
This is all for now.
[16.02.2017 19:40:21] L\-Edda.Paganini: We will have a fair duel
[16.02.2017 19:40:29] 2017-02-16 19:40:29 SMT Traffic control alert: Hell.Goose has requested to dock
[16.02.2017 19:40:34] 2017-02-16 19:40:34 SMT
[16.02.2017 19:40:34] L\-'Jinx': Sharpens shivs I'll watch, hai?
[16.02.2017 19:40:35] 2017-02-16 19:40:35 SMT
[16.02.2017 19:40:35] Yamaguchi.The.Chimmy: Kuskus let's just take them down
[16.02.2017 19:41:05] 2017-02-16 19:41:05 SMT
[16.02.2017 19:41:05] L\-Dante.di.Riva: make it 2v2
[16.02.2017 19:41:56] 2017-02-16 19:41:56 SMT
[16.02.2017 19:41:56] L\-Dante.di.Riva: So, you don't want a fair battle?
[16.02.2017 19:42:04] 2017-02-16 19:42:04 SMT
[16.02.2017 19:42:04] L\-Dante.di.Riva: Attacking pilots who stand around, fine.
[16.02.2017 19:42:15] 2017-02-16 19:42:14 SMT
[16.02.2017 19:42:15] L\-Dante.di.Riva: Weapons free! Make them feel pain!
Since I was present, I will reply.
Yeah, we were happy to duel. Even I decided to sit and watch as i arrived. But then KNF indies (two of them) decided to shoot one of our bystanders (the bomber, go figure, easiest mark, uh?). All bets are off, okay. And as you got shot back at by the Legion, you decided to go hug a base with stationary platforms. Recurrent much? Hello LIS old sweetheart.
Recurrent behaviour like that gets a pat in the back and no bars held from my end.
As for the comment, it was a sarcastic in roleplay comment. KNF acted like IMG in her experience, so said character made the comparison of a Military faction to a miner one. Ultimate slap in the face for a Kusari Navy pilot, so I think. As for self-nuking, well rule #4 for you sonny. You did it, I did it, everyone did it. On purpose or not.
And as for the SIT DOWN. You fine lot have a problem, file a report on ooRP. Logs will be pulled and somebody will have to prove it's was out of roleplay. EAT IT, also is one of Shiv's trademark lines, just saying.
) Apart connection issue, lets be realist here, what a chance my 4 months of playing give me against pilots like Wesker and Vasko?
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If you want to check, here is the gallery, could not be bothered to put them into right order and link them one-by-one with comments. => 
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