Remove the ability to mount a cloak and a jumpdrive at the same time?

[6th Liberty Navy Fleet]

Because of the sneaky jumping of innocent and unsuspecting people while cloaked. I am sorry, I thought it was clear.

Rules of server? If cloaked players Jumping with players who don`t want it - he can get sanctioned.

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[DarkTails]

It's not sanctionable, it's treated as being attacked and you can kill the jump ship, but it's not against the server rules.

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[6th Liberty Navy Fleet]

It's not sanctionable, it's treated as being attacked and you can kill the jump ship, but it's not against the server rules.

Hmmmmmmmm, my Dread have JD4 and Cloaking Device MK II Advanced.

Have an idea.

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[Thunderer]

You can't report someone who is cloaked because you can't provide evidence. You can't screenshot someone who is cloaked.

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[Jessitrescott]

it is sad to see pepole would rather do this than spend time in conn and improve in actual pvp.

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[Felipe]

Wasnt you thanking who did that in Freeport drama, so long ago? Dunno what got you guys so butthurt, as far i can remember it have been done a lot, for long time, for many of the people that are complaining and/or their factions.

What happened? What had changed? Others doing to you guys now?

I dont have even one jd4 installed in a proper combat ship, and yes, my Lolgate been jumped from om-delta to deep Omegas by a non-seen (cloaked) guy.

But i saw Core, Order, Sairs, THP and many others doing, and only saw the qq when the ones jumped are the same group of ppl... that i repeat, done same in the past, themselves or their factions.

And Thundy, you cant print the jump animation, and provide logs and time? Is enough for the admins to find it, if they want. At least, as far i know.

And then again. Is just a matter of people buying decloakers. Not so hard, or that expensive, if you consider price that guy willing to jump you spent.

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[Banned player t202085]

It's not sanctionable, it's treated as being attacked and you can kill the jump ship, but it's not against the server rules.

It is sanctionable if the ship jumping didn't place 2 engagement lines first.

Or atleast should be

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[Thunderer]

Oh nice. That might fix it, since the rules say you must be uncloaked while placing those 2 engagement lines, and give your target enough time to respond.

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[Antonio]

Oh nice. That might fix it, since the rules say you must be uncloaked while placing those 2 engagement lines, and give your target enough time to respond.

Only for Nomads. You don't have to be uncloaked on a regular ship, the whole point of a cloak as a PvP asset is to make a surprise attack. Having to uncloak, do 2 lines and then open fire defeats the whole purpose of the cloak's offensive use and in all these years of Discovery it worked like that without a problem, except the relatively recent change to the Nomad IDs because of perma-cloak abuse. By writing engagement lines in local chat, making your cloak sound be heard and showing your hostilities you give more than enough chance to the opposing side to react to your presence and prepare accordingly, as long as you give them enough time after you notified them of your presence. Just because they don't have a tool to deal with you such as a cloak disruptor doesn't mean you can't engage after decloaking. In fact those 3 reasons are more than enough to start moving or running to a bigger ship or station or anything else in order to prepare for a surprise attack.

The "react to hostilities" means time to react when someone declares their hostile intentions rather than you physically seeing a ship. You can react to someone being cloaked by simply moving for starters. You can also decloak them, hide behind a station, dock, use a trade lane, jump gate, etc., write something in return to tease them to uncloak. There are many possibilities but at the end of the day you react to the hostile intentions of a cloaked ship, not him uncloaking per se. The second he uncloaks the battle begins (most likely).

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[The Sovereign]

For the longest time the only ID not allowed to engage from cloak was the K'Hara. All other ID's may begin their engagement while cloaked, and standard pvp rules apply. Additionally, the "time to react" line specifically means that 10 seconds need to have passed from the first engagement line. There is still a minimum of two lines required to engage a target.