This whole thing is the result of Bretonia getting screwed over by forced story stuff, and being appeased with assets from other factions to make up for it. I sympathise with Bretonian players in that regard, but getting other people caught in that mess and having them forcefully lose assets to someone else is not the way forward. It'll never end otherwise. What's next, IMG takes a Lividia from the Zoners to make up for Aland?
It has to stop. Forcing Bretonia to take losses from the solution, and will just be repeating the same mistakes. The foot needs to be put down on this, and there needs to be a change of direction. I'd honestly retcon the Omega-3 stuff, maybe even 49 stuff although that might be difficult.
Holiday has my discord. I am well aware of the dislike over 49. I am also over attempting to explain the reasoning behind it. I have never doubted the Zoner player base and their desire to get some pay back, nor have I ever discouraged it. They, like the IMG and co. are more than welcome to do what they will regarding the situation.
(03-23-2019, 05:12 PM)Doc Holliday Wrote: No concerns, really, but observations. Sir Isaac Newton once said that "for every action is an equal and opposite reaction." Bretonia spent a lot of ships and manpower taking Aland and Canaria. When I was an admin, Bretonia decided to make a non-story push against Rheinland and Rheinland did much the same. The result? Liberty took Westfalen and Gallia took LD-14. Since, Westfalen is back with Rheinland and LD-14 was returned although Gallic occupation re-took it. My point? The back door was unlocked. Perhaps someone took advantage? I know that if I was Gallic, I would!
I also know that part of the push into 49 was to force the Zoners to pick a side, a long time quest for many here. Since I can't pew pew worth compost, I won't bother. I will take my stuff elsewhere OUT of Bretonian influence. If Zoners take up arms versus their oppressors, remember, they didn't choose said oppressors as enemies, the oppressors did and many can fight or will be willing to.
This is pretty much spot on. Exactly what should have happened here.
With Canaria, not really. The Stirling isn't missing from the front lines or a key position. I agree about the Norfolk, someone should have moved on Cambridge, but we couldn't decide between the GRI or Mollies so neither ended up happening before we hit our deadline. Besides, as no Mollies or GRI made an attempt to move on Cambridge, we would've had our heads ripped off for forced storyline. Or does that particular bit of criticism only apply when it's popular, I wonder? I'm not trying to be snarky here, It's legitimate food for thought.
(03-23-2019, 05:40 PM)Emperor's Fangs Wrote: I agree about the Norfolk, someone should have moved on Cambridge, but we couldn't decide between the GRI or Mollies so neither ended up happening before we hit our deadline. Besides, as no Mollies or GRI made an attempt to move on Cambridge
Would you have asked those factions (or tried to contact reps of some kind), or just forcefully move them? I'm not trying to be snarky either, just curious.
(03-23-2019, 05:40 PM)Emperor's Fangs Wrote: I agree about the Norfolk, someone should have moved on Cambridge, but we couldn't decide between the GRI or Mollies so neither ended up happening before we hit our deadline. Besides, as no Mollies or GRI made an attempt to move on Cambridge
Would you have asked those factions (or tried to contact reps of some kind), or just forcefully move them? I'm not trying to be snarky either, just curious.
I guess that's where Thunderer got the idea from. Well, we could theoretically dump a GRN battlecruiser in there although I feel like it was a missed opportunity for the Mollies to have a win for once.
(03-23-2019, 05:12 PM)Doc Holliday Wrote: No concerns, really, but observations. Sir Isaac Newton once said that "for every action is an equal and opposite reaction." Bretonia spent a lot of ships and manpower taking Aland and Canaria. When I was an admin, Bretonia decided to make a non-story push against Rheinland and Rheinland did much the same. The result? Liberty took Westfalen and Gallia took LD-14. Since, Westfalen is back with Rheinland and LD-14 was returned although Gallic occupation re-took it. My point? The back door was unlocked. Perhaps someone took advantage? I know that if I was Gallic, I would!
I also know that part of the push into 49 was to force the Zoners to pick a side, a long time quest for many here. Since I can't pew pew worth compost, I won't bother. I will take my stuff elsewhere OUT of Bretonian influence. If Zoners take up arms versus their oppressors, remember, they didn't choose said oppressors as enemies, the oppressors did and many can fight or will be willing to.
This is pretty much spot on. Exactly what should have happened here.
With Canaria, not really. The Stirling isn't missing from the front lines or a key position. I agree about the Norfolk, someone should have moved on Cambridge, but we couldn't decide between the GRI or Mollies so neither ended up happening before we hit our deadline. Besides, as no Mollies or GRI made an attempt to move on Cambridge, we would've had our heads ripped off for forced storyline. Or does that particular bit of criticism only apply when it's popular, I wonder? I'm not trying to be snarky here, It's legitimate food for thought.
(03-23-2019, 05:44 PM)Emperor's Fangs Wrote: I was planning on contacting @Blodwyn O'Driscoll, yes.
Edit: I give up trying to link her acc.
this is very funny ... planning on contact ... right ... only after things happens or are decided ... like the all shitstorm about Belfast, lets decide first then we could plan on contact them ... ffs
(03-23-2019, 05:40 PM)Emperor's Fangs Wrote: I agree about the Norfolk, someone should have moved on Cambridge, but we couldn't decide between the GRI or Mollies so neither ended up happening before we hit our deadline. Besides, as no Mollies or GRI made an attempt to move on Cambridge
Would you have asked those factions (or tried to contact reps of some kind), or just forcefully move them? I'm not trying to be snarky either, just curious.
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