Official Faction Activity Fourth Quarter 2020

[WizardLizard]

Agreed.

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[romeodarkbeat]

Well there are people that don't log, are unwilling to teach and train new players, ridicule them and are proud they don't accept them, boasting about "quality", often just generating activity to block people from doing something that isn't in line with their idea of how the game should be played.

If they put 10% of their scheming effort into training a couple new enthusiastic guys, they wouldn't have to afk at edge of a system on last day of the month

Some do. Look at the 2 factions that most log ingame. 1 is in Kusari and the other in Liberty. One is OF and one is not. Both have HC members that has some form of disliking to HC members of the other. One lawful and one unlawful.Nearly nothing in common, in fact they are hostile to each other whenever one of them comes to drop cardi at Rochester.

Only single thing they have in common: 1iC, HC HIGLY leaned towards helping new members of their factions, even recruiting (*gasp*) newbies on the game. Look at every single "Hey, newbie here" thread in recent weeks and you'll know exactly what I mean.

Part of the reason I decided against going for officialdom, at least for now, is that I can just ignore the hatemail and adress valid criticism directly. Dudes whose factions don't log 2 days in 3 months complaining about "quality" just make me want to stay unofficial. I'd hapilly and promptly, however, work with OFs to generate more and more varied activity in the server.

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[Saronsen]

We get it, LIA and 46th doesn't like LSF, despite having zero interaction with us.

Anything else you want to whine about?

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[Czechmate]

Huh? 46th had only good interactions with LSF, your guys logged with us fom the start, helped in Nu when noone else did etc. I can't recall one issue in-game or any sort of rivalry. And you didn't afk at system wall to get to farm activity, which this subject is about

Just you personally Saro can come across as one of the meddlesome guys that logs just to block other people from doing stuff and we both know you like putting people that don't play like you down on discord etc.

But honestly - if OFs didn't cling to officialdom by afk farming when they despise logging, and were willing to organically drop to non-OF sometimes and rebuild from the bottom and just log when they actually want to log they might be better off in the long run really.

[SnakThree]

Then there's trading mining factions - mining get 4.0. It's not a big deal at all. Trading factions gain nothing in terms of gameplay. We made OF in ALG, but then what...It's All the same, the guys didn't even bother to update Mactan or rephack sheets and we imploded, because it's the same thing but for extra work.

Mactan Network Tools - Feedback, etc.

Next time put in the effort to relay that Mactan Network should be updated (it is auto-updated in regards to technerf and rephacks).

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[Dhomie42]

Since I've seen a lot of posts about pointing out that X and Y OFs don't exactly contribute anything productive to the game enviroment, I'd like to point out that feedback threads exist.
You are more than welcome to point out your complaints/issues/suggestions with OFs, or even unofficial ones on their feedback threads.

Also, +1 to several valid points raised by Karlotta and Thyrzul.

However I'd like to point out that a lot of new players lack knowledge of the forums, don't use it, or just don't use the forums that much.
New players don't join OFs right away, frankly it seems they rather join something far simpler, like an unofficial faction, or just a group, like 46th|, guess that's something they've done right.

My point is, it's hard to help out new players as an OF member if they don't show interest in the first place. Liberty factions have an advantage, because the starting system is there, allowing them to "advertise" their factions to new players right on the spot.

[romeodarkbeat]

We get it, LIA and 46th doesn't like LSF, despite having zero interaction with us.

Anything else you want to whine about?

Well, how should I put it, man? It's not that we don't like you. If not for passive-agressive quick jabs on Discord I'd barely know you have any relation to LSF. During the siege in Colorado 5th, LN, LIA came in to help, and 5th in particular showed great coordination. We love working with both, also others.

Problem is you take your sweet sweet time talking bout a game you don't actually like. Here, let me bring your own words:

im off to play games i actually like with people i dont despise

Why spend time here on a thread with people you despise arguing about a game you don't like and where you don't log? After that much of a stupid year you don't have any friends to play games you enjoy? Loved ones to care for? Maybe some new hobby?

Because do you know what I see, like ALL the time? Go search "46th" in the Official Discord, and all you got is daily mockery, complains and insults. And are we whining about it?

No, we're filling MDs daily, giving kudos to opponents multiple times a day, taking and working on actual feedback, working alongside multiple other factions and dropping in introductions threads to offer help and support... Not to mention a memorial service for a loved one of a member a few days ago...

See what I'm saying here, dude? You claim we whine and hate you, but you are the ones daily backtalking us.

Because you're nothing but a footnote on our book, one of many names in my ignore list, and we're too busy playing the game.

Now if you do have word, stick to your leaving thread, people you despise are talking ways to improve this game you hate so much. Or if you have actual contribuition, I'd be glad to work things out.

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[romeodarkbeat]

However I'd like to point out that a lot of new players lack knowledge of the forums, don't use it, or just don't use the forums that much.
New players don't join OFs right away, frankly it seems they rather join something far simpler, like an unofficial faction, or just a group, like 46th|, guess that's something they've done right.

My point is, it's hard to help out new players as an OF member if they don't show interest in the first place. Liberty factions have an advantage, because the starting system is there, allowing them to "advertise" their factions to new players right on the spot.

Excellent point, though it didn't stop Meg from bringing up a pretty big faction in Kusari, thanks to, and I kid you not, *waving and being nice to new players*. But the point about Penn stands a strong one.

That said we'll surely work with OFs, veterans and new. Point that started all this was farming for minimum activity. I agree with Karlotta on some things that might cause it.

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[Lucas]

Dead factions farming activity by afking has always been a thing ever since I joined Disco and I doubt it'll change, for better or worse. I think in some cases, having a faction that is semi-alive as a way to gatekeep a faction fully compromised of newer or less experienced players from doing whatever they want wherever they want is a good thing, though, since they do represent a faction and people, especially unexperienced people, tend to make mistakes. Normally that wouldn't be so bad but if you are the only representative of an NPC faction and all you do is behave questionably or OOC then people will start doubting you and your capabilities to represent an NPC faction, or you might even turn off others from actually wanting to play the same NPC faction.

EDIT: wrong acc xd

[Czechmate]

Am I getting it right - so the semi-dead time farming faction exists just so they block the RP and approach of someone who might want to take the dead faction in a different direction and actually log it for real in-game? Because someone might have a different approach to the game than they do? :]