Playerbase Siege Adjustments

[Lord Chaos]

Posted by Jayenbee - Today, 02:03 AM
(Today, 12:19 AM)Lord Chaos Wrote:
(Yesterday, 11:30 PM)Demonic Wrote:
Cant really speak for the numbers, wold have to do a bit more than just look at the St.Danieles post, but the way I see it the Beaumont Spire specificaly was a victim of it's owner's RP. Bases are not invincible and such things should be kept in mind. Broadcasting publicly, to the whole sirius about your base in border region outside of direct house protection that BMM has a base next to a former IMG station which BMM and Bretonia tried to take over, and saying in said broadcast you're salvaging it, is inviting the disaster.

The way the base suddenly changed hands to junkers when IMG started asking questions was cringe and the attempt to play it off like it's not a big deal instead of actually trIng to appease the Guild, maybe offer some terms which would be acceptable to both sides, weren't particularly smart RP either.

I thought people have learned their lesson about public broadcastsfrom bases outside of house space after the Quantum situation but I guess I was wrong. I'm sorry but ever since the base was sold off by Leo, every single decision made by the new owners was a wrong one. And the base paid for it.
First and foremost, BMM announced JOINT Ventures on that post.

Secondly the base never changed IFF, always was Junker any admin can confirm this please?
EDITED: BMF whanted to buy the station from Junkers, not the other way around.
Thirdly, in no part of that post says it is salvaging Alland, heres the post
https://discoverygc.com/forums/showthrea...tid=200792
Fourt: " trIng to appease the Guild" you say?
The Guild RP as you call it was weak and did not allow for ANY negotiation from the Gilds side, only unproven statements, ignored the content of the messages received and so on.
The Guild intent was very clear from the start:
https://discoverygc.com/forums/showthrea...tid=200815
So, putting aside the fact that every single point you made is either a LIE or is FALSE,
Il just say you came to this thread now,to run your mouth thinking your smarter than everyone else.
I will admit tho, was fun watching IMG Molly Coalition and BAF together.

Cheers
PS. Save your runts this is about the PoB system, not you. Beaumont was here since about the same time you joined, shame on all of you lot.

The post being referred to is this one you brain melt.
And in the message from IMG, they very clearly state that; A guild member noticed your scavenging operation in the Aland Shipyard wreck in Omega 3, where derelict ships from various groups, including ours, lay derelict. - it's unsettling that you're scavenging from the graveyard of our members who defended what's rightfully ours

So, Aland is being salvaged from their perspective.

The post in question is dated after the declaration of the attack and the attempted purchase.
The IMG is free to make any claims they desire, but it's a falsehood; there was no Junker mining scrap belonging to Beaumont after my acquisition.
Despite requesting evidence, none was provided.
The assertion that they don't have an obligation to present evidence implies a dangerous precedent. "I saw Liberty Navy mining with Nomads and Zoners in Dublin."
Essentially, anyone could make baseless claims and take any action without being held accountable, as exemplified by the siege attacking fleet composition.
I will not address the issue of your intelligence, as you would need a brain to discuss such matters in the first place.

In the new system, bases that are nearly a decade old and served the comunity for years, like Beaumont Spire, can be easily dismantled with minimal effort.
A single thread is sufficient for initiating an attack, and the demolition of a PoB can be accomplished by a mere 4 or 5 players with little to no commitment.

Spire existed in Texas for a long time and all was good. It's when silly people decide to move POB to controversial or contested space when things get heated.

If people want long term POB, it takes more than a minute to plan out and choose best IFF and location for the role. You can't blame POB system when it's the owners' fault for getting wrecked.

Of course POB system is not perfect. But seeing so many POBs that safely exist shows it's possible if you put your mind to it.

Just to clarify, I didn't relocate the base, nor did I alter its IFF. I acquired it after it had been moved, motivated solely by the respect for Beaumont's longstanding presence on the server. My intention was to reactivate it in its new location. If the objective wasn't to destroy the base, why didn't IMG allow us to move it again?

There's a lot of rhetoric about being the "natural" faction, but the actions speak louder. The server witnessed your group's conduct, and now you're attempting to tarnish my reputation with unfounded allegations about decisions I supposedly made. The reality is, I didn't make any decisions; I simply tried to prevent a valuable asset from changing hands indiscriminately.

I'm indifferent to the base itself; its worth lies in the memories of those who played around it for years. Unlike many, I respect that history and chose to acquire it. However, it seems that some took issue with my post, perhaps out of envy, and resorted to the usual tactics – griefing.

In the end, Beaumont served its purpose well: it exposed the true nature of the griefers, showcased the reality of how things are done on the Discovery "RP" server, and highlighted how rules can be bent in certain directions when convenient. Despite constant attempts to tarnish my image with lies, Beaumont turned out to be the perfect bait, and all the detractors eagerly took it.

[SnakThree]

Just to clarify, I didn't relocate the base, nor did I alter its IFF. I acquired it after it had been moved, motivated solely by the respect for Beaumont's longstanding presence on the server. My intention was to reactivate it in its new location. If the objective wasn't to destroy the base, why didn't IMG allow us to move it again?

There's a lot of rhetoric about being the "natural" faction, but the actions speak louder. The server witnessed your group's conduct, and now you're attempting to tarnish my reputation with unfounded allegations about decisions I supposedly made. The reality is, I didn't make any decisions; I simply tried to prevent a valuable asset from changing hands indiscriminately.

I'm indifferent to the base itself; its worth lies in the memories of those who played around it for years. Unlike many, I respect that history and chose to acquire it. However, it seems that some took issue with my post, perhaps out of envy, and resorted to the usual tactics – griefing.

In the end, Beaumont served its purpose well: it exposed the true nature of the griefers, showcased the reality of how things are done on the Discovery "RP" server, and highlighted how rules can be bent in certain directions when convenient. Despite constant attempts to tarnish my image with lies, Beaumont turned out to be the perfect bait, and all the detractors eagerly took it.

I am fairly certain nobody cares about you as much as you think they do. If POB is in contested space, that solid RP reason to siege it. Roleplay is simple on Disco. You seem to be paranoid that someone is out to get you.

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[Couden]

There's a lot of rhetoric about being the "natural" faction, but the actions speak louder. The server witnessed your group's conduct, and now you're attempting to tarnish my reputation with unfounded allegations about decisions I supposedly made. The reality is, I didn't make any decisions; I simply tried to prevent a valuable asset from changing hands indiscriminately.

I'm indifferent to the base itself; its worth lies in the memories of those who played around it for years. Unlike many, I respect that history and chose to acquire it. However, it seems that some took issue with my post, perhaps out of envy, and resorted to the usual tactics – griefing.

In the end, Beaumont served its purpose well: it exposed the true nature of the griefers, showcased the reality of how things are done on the Discovery "RP" server, and highlighted how rules can be bent in certain directions when convenient. Despite constant attempts to tarnish my image with lies, Beaumont turned out to be the perfect bait, and all the detractors eagerly took it.

Please dont cry for another 4 months to get your pob restored. Old Traffold is a reason why is it hopeless to watch bopers yells all around sirius and are sellimg base because they cannot handle with it. (noI am not trolling/flamming)

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[Lord Chaos]

Just to clarify, I didn't relocate the base, nor did I alter its IFF. I acquired it after it had been moved, motivated solely by the respect for Beaumont's longstanding presence on the server. My intention was to reactivate it in its new location. If the objective wasn't to destroy the base, why didn't IMG allow us to move it again?

There's a lot of rhetoric about being the "natural" faction, but the actions speak louder. The server witnessed your group's conduct, and now you're attempting to tarnish my reputation with unfounded allegations about decisions I supposedly made. The reality is, I didn't make any decisions; I simply tried to prevent a valuable asset from changing hands indiscriminately.

I'm indifferent to the base itself; its worth lies in the memories of those who played around it for years. Unlike many, I respect that history and chose to acquire it. However, it seems that some took issue with my post, perhaps out of envy, and resorted to the usual tactics – griefing.

In the end, Beaumont served its purpose well: it exposed the true nature of the griefers, showcased the reality of how things are done on the Discovery "RP" server, and highlighted how rules can be bent in certain directions when convenient. Despite constant attempts to tarnish my image with lies, Beaumont turned out to be the perfect bait, and all the detractors eagerly took it.

I am fairly certain nobody cares about you as much as you think they do. If POB is in contested space, that solid RP reason to siege it. Roleplay is simple on Disco. You seem to be paranoid that someone is out to get you.

NOW Im starting to feel important ...*blushes*

Yet another futile attempt to tarnish my image, this time by gaslighting... ridiculous.

I said lies were said about me with the intent of staining my image somehow, and these are here on this very thread.

Keep proving me right. *smiles

"wonders why that other also Junker PoB in the same location didnt get an A.D."

Flatered as i may be, it wwould be nice to return to the point of PoB Mechanics like i asked before and the thread is about.

[Prysin]

Siege mechanic works pretty OK. Get some friends and defend the base if you want to keep it. Otherwise let it die. It's pixels. The "stories built around the base" are merely stories, written on the forums. They could have been written with or without the base ingame.

Don't refuse to use voice chat or discord to coordinate, because the attackers certainly are. Why put yourself at a disadvantage? Do you want to lose?
Can't speak english well? Guess its time to practice while defending.
Live in a noisy enviroment or with family? Use Push-to-talk.
cannot speak english at all? Learn to listen, listening does wonders.
Unless you're deaf and mute, there's no good reason not to use voice chat to coordinate in a fight.

Get someone (or do it yourself) to call targets. Focus attackers one by one. Stay in formation. Do not spread out. Those who spread out will be targeted.

And if you still don't want to get a gang, use VC, call targets etc... you deserve to lose the base, the fight and whatever else was involved.

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[Lord Chaos]

Keep proving me right. *smiles

[Saronsen]

you moved beaumont spire from texas to the omegas somehow, you probably deserved it

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[Stewgar]

It's pixels. The "stories built around the base" are merely stories, written on the forums. They could have been written with or without the base ingame

Here is the problem with that logic. In some cases, even I would say that a POB deserves to die because of poor RP or location. However, there has been some notable instances over the past... year + where it seems the same groups and same people are sieging POBs often with little to no RP (or in a recent case, jenky and forced RP). So while yes, they are just pixels with stories (most of my RP has been in game or in Discord to prevent meta), people put real time and energy into building them. Not everybody has the amount of free time that some believe everybody has to continue building, maintaining, and then having to rebuild POBs because some kids like to kick down sand castles.

Yes, there are cases where even I say "suck it up buttercup". Painting with a broad brush and saying they are merely stories and just pixels is disingenuous to those that put a lot of time into these "pixels". I give kudos to the dev team for the changes that have already happened surrounding sieges, such as siege windows, and their continued attention into POBs.

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I hope that either all of us or none of us are judged by the actions of our weakest moments. But rather, by the strength we show when, and if, we're ever given a second chance.

[D.I.E. Pablo Escobar]

...lets see in 4 weeks wen the next attack declaration comes...

[Lord Chaos]

you moved beaumont spire from texas to the omegas somehow, you probably deserved it

Il use capitals this time maybe ppl have eye problems.
I DID NOT MOVE THE BASE SOMEONE ELSE DID!!!

I give kudos to the dev team for the changes that have already happened surrounding sieges, such as siege windows, and their continued attention into POBs.

I sign under these words tho

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