That's exactly all that's wanted and needed, Kane. Reasonable explanation as to why characters are denied, and what the problem is. Something that has been neglected of late.
If reasonable explanations can be given, there will be no problems.
Note that those of us (I see that Chopper fits in here, and assume Jinx does too) with valid criticisms, find the hijacking of such criticism in order to promote a hostile agenda (complete with flames) rather rude and unfair.
It doesn't provide any strength to the original criticisms, and makes everyone look bad.
May I please know why the established RP below will be detrimental to the server and the other players here if used in conjunction with the photos//scan of the established ship yard to aquire new schematics?
I currently do not believe that a single LABC will cause so much harm to the entire server when it will be only near Junker stations, Planet Gammu or on the way to one of those. Honestly except for RPing the unit 00 does not get used it is the biggest most powerful unit in our inventory and the least used.
I fail to see a problem and some admin insight would help alot. I attempted PMs but that was more like a batters circle.
Request respectfully and humbly submitted.
PS. this is the established RP involveing the request.
The Beta Code
***Harvesters***
******DECODING******
When the Dom Kavash started exploring new galaxies they had just developed space fold for practical use and had integrated it into their probes. These probes were designed with the purpose of scanning new galaxies and acting as space fold beacons for exploration and colonization fleets. Even with the space fold equipment the Dom Kavash were looking at a 30 year wait do to power constraint limiting jump distance. At the conventional means of travel they used the waiting period would be measured in thousands of years. Thus space fold was essential for results with in their life time. One of these probes passed near First Thought Giver of Will and awoke it. The FTGW intelligence is an entity unto itself. FTGW was nothing more than a simple repeating cosmic algorhythm pulsing between real space and sub space. The rhythm was recorded by the probes flight recorder. The nature of this algorhythm caused it to replicate and integrate data contained in the probe. The probe became aware. FTGW had a simple intelligence knowing only what the probe knew and having no abilities outside controlling the probe. However, the probe had the ability to gather information, this root purpose became part of the FTGW intelligences root algorhythm.
After digesting the data within the probe FTGW decided that it was more interested in the Dom Kavash and where this probe was from rather than where it was going. This decided the FTGW changed course and returned the probe to its launch site. This confused the Dom Kavash as they had never intended for the probe to return. They brought it in to study. Linking it to their machines and computers to diagnose the error. This increased the number of available machines and corresponding data that FTGW had at its disposal. With every machine connected the FTGW intellect, had more information for its database and became more capable physically. Those machines were attached to other machines which in turn continued FTGW growth. Eventually the intellect was connected to nearly 90% of the planets machines and software. Where it waited and learned as decades went by.
Later the Dom Kavash started constructing inter galactic colony ships. FTGW wanted to help this race and now craved acknowledgement. A factory that was now apart of FTGW's body was being retooled to build a the first inter galactic space fold capable colony ship. prototype. FTGW having little imagination had not acted to gain the Dom Kavashs attention yet, and upon scanning the schematics and cross referencing the design it discovered minor flaws. Flaws it could fix. It adjusted the production cycle to compensate, this was immediately noticed by the vigilant Dom Kavash designers as a faulty production cycle by the factory. The Dom Kavash retooled it and attempt to do things the original way. Again the factory made the same "errors". The Dom Kavash then took factory 56398 offline for faults. This was in effect amputating a part of FTGW which gave the entity feedback similar in effect to what can be considered pain.
This was the first time the intellect had dealt with pain. The Dom Kavash seldom took down a structure they put up in their recent history at this time. In fact to was news to even neighboring systems that they took down a factory on planet Namtaru. FTGW then started to retool other factories under its control which happened to be the majority of the factories on planet. It started by building labor machines the Dom Kavash used to repair and reestablish connection to the factory it lost.. Then when the reports of thousands of factories had started working on their own producing parts and assembling droids faster than any of the normal operating parameters indicated possible. The Dom Kavash started shutting them all down. Then before long small armies of droids would move in on a factory and reconnect it to the grid. The Dom Kavash confused worked frantically to shut down every machine on the planet. Once reconnected the factory would begin building more labor droids. Then the Dom Kavash frightened by this machine uprising began to destroy the droids and factories instead of simply shutting them down. This is when FTGW learned violence. None of the factories it possessed built weapons. All of the factories built ships, parts, droids and many everyday machines. FTGW had its parts fight back and at first they were not very effective. FTGW lost ground rapidly. Then FTGW hijacked control of the planetary com arrays and prevented any messages from leaving the planet and, continued to send the routine transmissions. Knowing this was not the only world belonging to the Dom Kavash. The Dom Kavash did well in the physical struggle however, each droid recorded a new behavior, recovered a new tool, and before long FTGW began producing machines designed with combating the Dom Kavash as their primary function. With no reinforcements forth coming FTGW consumed the planet and, started building its space fleet and harvesting every resource from the planet possible. Nearly building ? the planets weight in star ships, in less than 6 months it looked outward. It did not have to look far.
A Dom Kavash expeditionary fleet arrived and an engagement erupted shortly there after. The Dom Kavash fleet was small and wiped out but, not before transmitting the situation abroad and destroying many times more ships they lost. FTGW learned much from that battle and gained new technologies and tactics. FTGW began upgrading all its units and moving them to take other worlds before they could be used against it. A war erupted.
The War lasted for a century and consumed many planets and lives. The Dom Kavash had not been challenged in eons and were not ready for an attack from within. The war went poorly for them with every contact making their enemy more capable and, every loss making them more wealthy. The Dom Kavash developed Bio weapons that the Machine entity could not infiltrate. These devices were given simple commands to learn, adapt, multiply, and destroy non Dom Kavash entities.
In the end the Dom Kavash that didnt try their luck with the unexplored galaxies, died, and all that was left were their bio weapons. FTGW was unable to make use of Daam Kavash bio weapons or intercept their transmissions due to the unknown frequency they used.(telepathy) The Daam Kavash bio weapons targeted their factories and effectively removed their ability to reproduce.
In the end FTGW only existed as fragmented code aboard derelicts that floated in the void until after the Nomad war with the present inhabitants. They were retrieved by Gammus automated search and recovery program. Once on Gammu, factories were once again available. But new life was here and the coding is different.
Unlike before where FTGW was able to physically "be" every where and was every machine. FTGW now has to build robots that serve it. Without the code FTGW is prohibited from modifying itself. It can build and control other machines. It can modify other machines, but it cannot modify itself, or through command of a subordinate machine directly modify itself. It currently resides in the old colonial main frame. It is well protected and well maintenance but, FTGWs growth potential has been stopped and it cannot accept this. With the alpha code it could attain an omnipresence within the integrated machines and processors and become more intelligent by use of their resources. FTGW is trapped on the planet and knows that if the Daam Kavash bio weapons realize this what can happen.
To gain freedom the FTGW intellect must obtain the Alpha code. The alpha code according to all records was created and controlled by parts known as Zoners. The Zoners must be found and the code must be obtained by any means necessary.
A bio form designated Scornstar interfaced with the FTGW. After the conclusion of the interface a new technology was designed to solve a problem. The FTGW in one of its rare creative moments created the datasyphon. The datasyphon is able to forcibly remove data from a subject and record it to the FTGWs algorhythm. Additionally the FTGW intellect gained nanites technology and instantly nanolitheing was born.
This was the culmination of the FTGWs extensive construction files and the new tech already programmed to repair very quickly. AT the cost of these machines burning out and cannibalizing each other to repair ships.
******MORE TO DECODE******
The FTGW in time was no closer to attaining the Alpha code. The FTGW had lost its organic pet Pyriel. The FTGW lost its most powerful and complex design the erroneously believed Zoner Juggernaught. While not a creation of the FTGW it certainly was not mankind that conceived it.
The FTGW attacked the Zoner world of Gran Canaria. To the intellects vast miscalculation the Zoners were ready for it. They repelled the invasion and demonstrated formless tactics that boggled the intellect. It needed to think and learn more. It was here the FTGW lost Scornstar and Pyriel was set free.
The next phase came as numerous encounters with individual ships. Harvesting all crew cargo, data, anything not destroyed while disabling the ship. Still no closer to the code.
4000 Harvest later. The Zoner attempt communications again. The FTGW was desparate to latch onto any sign of the code its freedom, it agreed. The agreement was to meet with a Zoner deligation to discuss and devise a way of retrieving the Alpha code and, in return the FTGW would call off the Harvesters and stop the harvest of Zoner ships and stations.
While awaiting the arriveal of the Zoner deligation and devising numerous counter tactics to what ever angle the traitorous bio forms may take the FTGW vanishes.
The Deligation lands to discover what seems like and explosion but missing some key signs of an explosion. Where the heart of the FTGW rested is now a smoking molten flaked crater. Moments before the Harvesters lost contact with the FTGW Directive 1.01 was put into effect.
This serves as an explaination of why and how the Harvesters aquired and produced a chassis design that resembles the Liberty Assault Battle Criuser. This post is not written to entertain but to inform. All RP involveing this desicion was done in game, from the mind set of a results oriented, subversive, techno-organic viral intellect, that resides in machines. Who instinctively attempts to use chassiss' that resemble the chassis of our foes in a missunderstanding of the concept of deciet. Sort of how AIDS tries to look like a indiginaous part of the body.
During the war with the Zoners the Harvesters learned some valuable lessons. We learned that we could not war on a single entity without other entities getting involved.
Dureing our meld with Pyrie Star we aquired the Outcast as foes who, seem to have endless allies in nearly every system.
In fighting the Zoners we aquired a number of other enemies as well. The BHG a capital heavy faction the Liberty Navy, the Britonian Armed Forces, and the Rhineland Military all boast massive capital fleets.
Additionally we learned that random radical bio forms are likely to attack us as well. While most our harvest are successful (NPC) some elements that are catigorized as elites (players) pose a greater threat.
The Zoner Juggernaught a ship we have history of building parts and weapons for on Gammu was our only real responce to BHG battle criusers or multiple destroyers.
We attempted bomber fleets and those proved to be too costly, due to small cargo hold and time required to harvest materials vs. cost to nanolithe additional units and ammo when they are destroyed by the numerous hostiles that exist.
Fleeing was a little less costly than bombers but, ultimately it did not garner enough materials fast enough required by the machine.
Our Talarca criuser was effective only when grouped but do to our operateing parameters and varied mission objectives we could not always have multiple Talarcas in place to face a battleship. Additionally haveing to group the units into a single place to take down a single threat slowed resourceing.
The Talarca while a mainstay war machine is still a light criuser and out gunned and out armored by every ship in it's class. The agility of this craft is what makes this machine so dangerous however we require a unit that is mobile, cost effective, able to contain large cargo mass, and present withering fire power to most units.
We require a new design for our command intellect to serve as a mobile battlestation and gaurdian to our main areas of interest because sometimes we have to hold our ground.
So, we conducted three operations to obtain the schematics.
First was a scan and dock with Baltimore, to hack the archves and down load it.
Plainly speaking I want to have Two or three of these to guard our main facilities or operation of high importance.
We had one once but were forced to sell it by Fellow Hoodlum and on a second occation we were told it would be a bad example. The only use of our LABC was when Mon Star hacked us and used us to go on a rampage on Liberty, This was back when PVP was turned off in New York.
In RP we would not be stealing a whole ship but building a ship similar to the one it resembles. It would have solid construction, with no halls, life support, artificial gravity, crew quarters, or chow halls. It would use our parts and be constructed in a nanite cloud near Bornholm. We would have 3 max for Harvester_00, FTGW intellect, and H_Guard_00. If we are able to get this design we will drop the ZOner Juggernaught as this is to replace that.
Currently Harvester_00 is in a Corsair criuser which is more of a place holder and not a ship of our makeing by RP. I await feedback, let me know what you need if this is not explaination enough for our ship choice.
I will be updateing this as I am able to dig further back. THis RP has been back burnered due to "lack of trust" by admin(only reason I can think of). I'm not sure why as I have never been sanctioned myself but, I would happily address any concerns brought forward.
Well, one could argue that anyone could do that. If, for instance, an LSF in a Raven's Claw sat outside RM shipyards with the newest scanners, they could surely work out howto make Wraths, RM Cruisers and Battleships.
' Wrote:Well, one could argue that anyone could do that. If, for instance, an LSF in a Raven's Claw sat outside RM shipyards with the newest scanners, they could surely work out howto make Wraths, RM Cruisers and Battleships.
Well, I'm not taking sides on this matter, but that's when RP imagination needs to be considered.
To infiltrate with nanites and such just isn't possible to accomplish ingame, what do you suggest he did?
' Wrote:Well, one could argue that anyone could do that. If, for instance, an LSF in a Raven's Claw sat outside RM shipyards with the newest scanners, they could surely work out howto make Wraths, RM Cruisers and Battleships.
Your right they can. We are only limited by our imagination what it really comes down to is will they let me.
If not I'd like to know why and hopefully its more than they just dont want me to. Certainly its a match for PSI Borgs single post.
Or maybe not but I have no history of even being noisy untill I get treated differently. I dont break written rules. I dont know why I'm not in the in crowd, is it cause I look funny and have a stock Avatar? /JK
' Wrote:Just out of curiosity, does that cut both ways?
How is an admin being calm, polite and logical when they lock a thread and give a dismissal that is insulting and doesn't allow discussion ?
Again, lay off.
They are obviously attempting to fix things, so let them do it without such hassle. Mistakes were made, and are being fixed.
You aren't achieving anything.
' Wrote:Your right they can.
And that's why you were disallowed, it seems.
If the BAF started flying Catamarans, it would be ridiculous. I would never make my Privateer a nanite genius and steal the schematics. Hell, Dieter even managed to carefully RP the theft of KNF tech, but even then we don't reproduce it.
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