Special Role-Playing Characters discussion

[Akumabito]

I don't know. Many powertraders aren't the best of roleplayers. It gives them a leg up, and slows down the fun for everyone else.

How does powertrading hold down the fun for anyone else?

[Akumabito]

They did make these mistakes. They're trying to fix them, Akuma. What more do you want?

Real proof that they are trying to fix them.

These points are not new, they've all been brought up before, why are they going to change now all of a sudden?

Where's the beef?

[bluntpencil2001]

How does powertrading hold down the fun for anyone else?

It forces players with a unique story to powertrade so that they can do it. Some folk don't have time to powertrade every time they come up with an idea. I hate trading myself, especially powertrading.

Generally speaking, many powertraders don't roleplay as well as others. They will be gaining from this, not the roleplayers.

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[Orin]

What do you suggest the admins do right now Akuma?

They said they are trying to wotk it out, give them a chance, please.

[Reverend Del]

Further to the point about fixing things, I am about to post some recommendations that I feel will help addres this, and a few other things to boot.

My ideas include but are not limited to:

Removing the 7-day automatic approval, so that we have more time to discuss a request, the requests are happening at a fast rate and we cannot be expected to discuss two pages worth in seven days.

Removing the line about Terrorist IDs, there is a damn fine reason why this process is not transparent, getting a Terrorist ID is not about checking boxes, it's about a number of factors which we do not wish to discuss. A good Terrorist ID application will stand on its on merits. And a good one gets approved, no matter who it's from.

Ensuring that we post all reasons. For any decison we as a team make.

However sanctions will never be a transparent process. Sanctions are done as they are to prevent a number of issues. But they will be, as ever, an appeal process. I would like to suggest that system become more formalised. Screenshots will be required.

If these recommendations are taken on board I think we may reach a consensus with the community.

This will take time, so give us some space.

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[Kane]

Akumabito, you seem to live in some odd dimension where time doesn't exist. We've just started trying to figure out -how- to fix it, and have already said one way we'll try. Yet you demand proof, and we've only made such points tonight! What, does time not exist where you are?

For the love of whatever god you worship, GIVE US SOME TIME TO IMPLEMENT BEFORE YOU SAY WE AREN'T DOING ANYTHING.

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[farmerman]

What Laowai said? Yeah, pretty much that.

I don't mean to say anything about the admins, but, again, I think the chaos that is this thread and its brethren shows what happens when things aren't clear and people start assuming (which will always happen).

Therefore, clarity = good, as well. At least if it's related to denying. Then one can take the suggestions and fix the points of contention.

Edit: Wow, 10 posts showed up while typing this.

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[kingvaillant]

I do agree about abolishing the 7 day thing, or at least extending it to 21 days.

Because we are all busy with our lives, we can't always be there and read, half of the topics are incredibly long and quite frankly. I don't think everyone will take 2 hours to read all the stuff in there each week.

If the process is too fast, people don't have the time to discuss it and when they encounter the char in game, they get issues with the said RP. Ain't nobody's fault if they didn't have the time to read all the RP stories.


On an other note, asking to get an RP story approved should be an investment, both in time and money. Just look at the faction request forums, You get less YANF than before the money rule was instated. And paying 500mil splitted in a clan isn't that much and gets really to a similar level as what I'm proposing here with character approval.

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[Orin]

I agree with Blunt about the power trading.

I don't mooch of my factions, and I rarely trade. If I wanted to submit a character, I would be forced to do so.

I'm against the credit idea.

[Akumabito]

Removing the 7-day automatic approval, so that we have more time to discuss a request, the requests are happening at a fast rate and we cannot be expected to discuss two pages worth in seven days.

I agree, that process rewards mediocrity from uninvolved players, since those posts draw no replies.

Ensuring that we post all reasons. For any decison we as a team make.

But what about when the reasons are along the lines of "I don't like it", *lock*?

But they will be, as ever, an appeal process.

Will it be formalized? Right now there is no appeal process, and even if you can get an appeal, such as the one you gave me, it is basically a painting over rather than an appeal and specific points are ignored and contradictory statements made without explanation or logic.

All too often the appeal process is a locked thread and unanswered PM's.

If these recommendations are taken on board I think we may reach a consensus with the community.

A consensus of the community too often simply means that faction leaders and admins do what is best for them, and calls it a consensus. Why not instead simply aim to be fair, and to actually listen to people when they try to communicate a point, and respond to that specific point.

That would go a long way right now, right?

This will take time, so give us some space.

You've had a lot of time up to now. What has changed from yesterday?