yes, they are, but they were around before these restrictions were put into effect - and have been integrated into disco's RP over time. The phantoms were once a Warhammer import, but now their RP ties into the other factions in the mod.
Anyone want to mention the Colonial Remnant? That's an import to the extreme, but it's been so deeply integrated by now that pulling the weed would damage the plant itself's roots too.
So basically, what has been imported so far isn't really supposed to be here, but it is. It could be worked out of the picture, but I don't think everyone is willing for that to happen, since the ripples would be pretty big.
Mistakes have been made in making Disco a completely original universe. They're done. Oh well. But that doesn't by any means justify putting more foreign material into the batter.
How are they mistakes if they have been successful in RP? Don't they prove that this sort of RP can be successful?
I would be interested in hearing the reasoning behind kicking this ladder out from under the rest of the community after a few select people were allowed to use it. It seems rather biased on the face of it, doesn't it?
Also we have the recent harvesters, aliens from outside freelancer, correct?
They may be successful, but that doesnt mean they belong. This mod is supposed to be based entirely off of vanilla freelancer. We use freelancer history and info to determine how things are done - imports ruin that. An imported RP -can- work, but it doesnt necessarily fit with what Igiss or the developers want for the mod.
Quote:Also we have the recent harvesters, aliens from outside freelancer, correct?
Harvesters are not imported RP, they were created based on freelancer lore/background with a twist. You wont find the harvesters in any other game as they are presented here because they're an original creation.
Anything can be RPed successfully. It comes down to what you want Disco to be. Igiss wants Disco to be Disco, not Disco with a little Star Wars, Starcraft, Resident Evil, etc. etc.
And I don't get you. You want everything to be equal and fair, but if Igiss suddenly kicked out all the imported material, wouldn't you say it isn't "fair" for them, since they had put so much work into it? Paradox much?
They are mistakes in the sense that they aren't original. They might work and be RPed to perfection, but they aren't original.
It's moot in any case. If Igiss has a change of heart and decides more imports can be introduced, fine. If not, oh well.
Put yourself in his shoes for a second. It's a hard situation. If he decides to be "fair" and lynches all imports, he gets grief for allowing them in the first place, if he keeps them and doesn't allow more, he gets you yelling at him to be "fair", and if he allows more, his vision of an original universe gets kicked.
Akumabito, what I'm talking about is someone coming in and saying: Special Character, John Davis, comes from Earth to warn Sirius of impending attack by the Earth Empire.
Response from us to that would be: Um, Earth is gone in the FL universe, deny.
EDIT:
The comments about the CR are not entirely correct. CR and Phantoms are additional RP that really has no effect on the general RP and storyline of Igiss's mod. Something like what I listed above, however, is completely contradictory to the mod, and thus would not be accepted as viable RP.
If someone wanted, they could definitely write a story about it, I just doubt that a character with that sort of RP would accepted.
Also, Akumabito is correct regarding the Jedi knight issue. I do know of players who RP as jedi ingame, but its really completely fine, since adding Jedi to player RP really does not contradict the storyline of the mod in a drastic manner. So, having a Jedi with incredible powers would really be detrimental to RP, however, since it would be powergaming. It would not, however, be what I was referencing.
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[6:51:48 PM] Terrance Cooper: Ye?
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[6:52:03 PM] Igor (Smokey): just sayin btw
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Johnny_Haas: but why????
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Johnny_Haas: why you shoot criuse speed rockets?
Being fair is applying the same rules to everyone. The solution is to either eliminate the existing RP that borrows from elsewhere with the new restrictions or to allow everyone the same leeway he allowed them.
Obviously at one point Igiss was putting star wars, star trek and other import ships in the mod, and many are staying in with the next version, right? So it can't be this large a factor.
Harvesters are "characters that don't have anything to do with the current RP ingame", right? There are no vanilla harvesters. Did you mean "characters imported from other sources" instead? If so I would like to know what the "characters that don't have anything to do with the current RP ingame".
To me, fair is fair. You can't let one guy use "I stole it" then ridicule and disallow "I stole it" from that point on. Sure being fair like that requires some thought beforehand but if it's good for the goose it's good for the gander. If you disallow the "I stole it" or the "we are from star wars" type requests now, then the few existing remenants of the past allowances should be put to bed as well, and those players can start over with something that doesn't create an unfair arena, right?
Besides, none of these examples of requests excluded by admins prior to reaching the community were the one I was thinking of as an example.
*Edit OK, I see your point elgatodiablo, have there been those types of denials? Earth did exist at one time, who's to say some remnants of a terran empire couldn't still exist? I mean if the french could make it out anyone could, right?:laugh:
' Wrote:You just ignored nearly my whole post and repeated the same old thing.
No I didn't, I gave you the solution you asked for, be fair to everyone and apply the rules equally across the board. You just didn't like that response.
' Wrote:You just ignored nearly my whole post and repeated the same old thing.
I'm done with you, Akuma.
c'mon, you arent new here, you should realize akuma always posts the same crap. He wants "absolute fair" treatment because he doesnt get what he wants otherwise. "If factions can restrict capships, we should just remove capships entirely" "if one person can steal a ship, I should be able to".
Really, go through akuma's post history, he says the same thing 90% of the time.
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