DUSTY LENS WONT YOU TELL US WHAT YOU THINK

[Aaronny]

To come back on the Liner topic, I think they'r pretty nice despite their huge size (wich make then easier to kill, by the way). They got just enough cargo hold are are nice for roleplay, sure they got more hull but the size comes with it. Don't change anything!

And as a wise Smokeone man said before, nobody can have everything, I'm sorry to tell you that you can't solololpwn everything in Sirius.

[cmfalconer]

I'm a newcomer to this thread, and I'm confused over what y'all are arguing about.

From what I can tell, it's not pretty. I read the entire thread and I'm still not sure. Someone mind dropping my a line so that I can lend what little intelligence I may have to this discussion?

Well, what's supposed to be discussed is a possible reason and method of taking the "Liners" off IDs and either getting them onto tech charts and off SRPs, or another method.

What it's turned into is nooblet and HFM arguing with Dusty about semantics and a practically non-existant faction who couldn't figure out how to live w/o their big ships anymore.

So, what we actually have is a thread about two people trying to push strange agendas, while what some might consider helpful, constructive options being left by the wayside.

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[n00bl3t]

IND don't use Z21, and they hadn't ever either. I catch any IND in Z21 I'll hoof them. It's not RP. In any way.

I am guessing "use" is the operative word?

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Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.

[Politus]

ZAS = Zoners Against Slavery

They started in .84 as a Zoner RP trade group ( in this case, for thsoe that missed out on .84, RP was not the first priority of the server despite the claims of the staff, so the RP distinction is a big thing for that era ).

Essently, they'd grab slaves and haul them to various humanatarian dropoff points such as gran canaria.

Their RP was they had some old lux liners that had been refurbished to carry the former slaves in comfertable conditions as well as medical faculties too.

Then comes the tech chart, and aside from the big 'ol frak you to the Zoners (Zoner Guard ID restrictions) they also made the liner a red cell for the Zoners too.

Right on. Sounds like a really good RP opportunity got spat on. If the SRP system is as bad as I've heard -I wouldn't know, I just submitted my first SRP yesterday- then it appears that this group got shat on utterly. Any other contributions from the peanut gallery? Now I know the context, but what specifically was this argument about?

edit: Gracias, cmfalconer. Lemme edit in my say...

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"Things will not calm down, Daniel Jackson. They will, in fact, calm up."

[n00bl3t]

Right on. Sounds like a really good RP opportunity got spat on. If the SRP system is as bad as I've heard -I wouldn't know, I just submitted my first SRP yesterday- then it appears that this group got shat on utterly. Any other contributions from the peanut gallery? Now I know the context, but what specifically was this argument about?

Lack of foresight, and a knee-jerk reaction, combined with incompetence.

*Shrugs.*

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Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.

[Reverend Del]

I am guessing "use" is the operative word?

Use, fly in, interact with in any way. We may not be the most law abiding trading faction, but even that is a step too far.

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Saint Del is considered a holy healer of diseases of children, but also as a protector of cattle.

[Harcourt.Fenton.Mudd]

IND don't use Z21, and they hadn't ever either. I catch any IND in Z21 I'll hoof them. It's not RP. In any way.

If I ever resurrect my LN char and catch any, I'll send you some SSs.

but what specifically was this argument about?

Essently, potshots at the admin team for killing off ZAS....

Potshots at the balnce team and Mjolner for sucking....

Potshots at the IND because theyre so rich

Potshots at Zealot casue its all his fault somehow.

With a liberal ammount of debate mixed in, then diluted when certain people resorted to being rude rather than debating.

Use, fly in, interact with in any way. We may not be the most law abiding trading faction, but even that is a step too far.

Well Ive also heard talks of Joe personaly calling Liberty caps off of IND 5k power smuggler convoys as well. The way Lunaphase told it, he had wiped most of the convoy out, then Joe orderd em to ignore them and stand down.

And Ive seen other cases of people in house militaries with IND chars calling off indies or their own faction to let IND get to sell on occasion too.

[cmfalconer]

Potshots at the balnce team and Mjolner for sucking....

Potshots at the IND because theyre so rich

Potshots at Zealot casue its all his fault somehow.

With a liberal ammount of debate mixed in, then diluted when certain people resorted to being rude rather than debating.
Well Ive also heard talks of Joe personaly calling Liberty caps off of IND 5k power smuggler convoys as well. The way Lunaphase told it, he had wiped most of the convoy out, then Joe orderd em to ignore them and stand down.

And Ive seen other cases of people in house militaries with IND chars calling off indies or their own faction to let IND get to sell on occasion too.

What he's really trying to say is he's had nothing substantial to add to the original subject and is starting to do the same thing that got him booted a month ago.

edit: Oh! +1

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[Harcourt.Fenton.Mudd]

What he's really trying to say is he's had nothing substantial to add to the original subject and is starting to do the same thing that got him booted a month ago.

edit: Oh! +1

Thus showing that you have not botherd to read the thread and are posting simply to flame.

[n00bl3t]

Use, fly in, interact with in any way. We may not be the most law abiding trading faction, but even that is a step too far.

I meant as opposed to "used", since I have seen [IND] traders in Alaska, and then Omicron Minor in 4.85.

No matter though, I have had good RP interactions with them, so no harm. (I have also had bad, but that happens with everything really.)

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Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.