FIRST:
A gun that shoots that fast would simply EXPLODE. No heat-sink, probably not even a fighter heat-sink could stand THAT much heat! Bullets cause A LOT of heat when they are fired. Not to mention it would weigh well over 100 pounds simply due to the amount of AMMUNITION it would need.
Yeah, there is a gun that can shoot 90 rounds in 20-30 seconds... But they tested it. It exploded. The gunman DIED. His ARM WAS BLOWN OFF. I'm sure some of you have played "Goldeneye" for the Nintendo 64, right? Any of you remember the RCP-90? That was based off a real gun that I mentioned earlier... That EXPLODED.
SECOND:
The plasma launcher? Dream on. That having a 1500 meter range? And still shooting 4 shots a second? The 1500 meter with ANY accuracy is non-existent. A two year old on a bicycle could avoid it. Secondly, a Plasma gun has to have a source of PLASMA. Those small cartridges could not supply 200 shots of plasma unless you are expecting them to be the size of needles... In which case, you're not really going to kill anyone. That much plasma would barely penetrate a t-shirt.
Why does Rheinland have plasma guns on their ships? They have LARGE LARGE quantities of Plasma stored for them. That gun would be one shot, then you have to reload. Similar to a modern day single-barrel shotgun.
THIRD:
Nothing but a tank could survive a .80 cal gun. Even then its with luck. If, by chance, that could survive the shot, the victim would at least be partially liquefied. Let's say it hits his stomach, OK? His intestines would turn into something close to jelly. He would hit the ground and die anyway. You'd be better of making TANKS out of that stuff. At most it could take a .40 cal without the user being knocked unconscious instantly.
Did I mention that the armor would weigh as much as a tank? The user would be crushed under the weight of the armor itself. You can't tell me that there is machines keeping that from happening and he can still move at relatively high rates of motion. The armor wouldn't be thick enough to take a SWORD.
Personal shield... Um... No way. Shields are still huge, and require a lot of energy. Way more than "kinetic energy" can produce. The shield, if possible, would only be up for a maximum of 5 seconds and could only take the weakest of the weakest energy weapons. I mean, a taser would be like an inferno against a fighter shield. Not to mention the fact that an old fashion slug would go right through the shield. Hell, I could hit you with a spoon through your shield!
Actually... I'd like to purchase one of those shields. Just in case I need to have protection from flies when running a marathon. Though, I'd have to find a way to move at the speed of sound.
Nobody remembers me, but I'm L.O.K.I (OR Vo, if you wanna remember me like that). But when I saw this thread I had to make an account....
Try again, The Pirate, I'm sorry to inform you that your first gun, would overheat in half a second, no heat release, no cooling system visible.
Secondly, your Plasma... Rifle as you put it, shows, in itself, ONE slug, firing ONE time. Dab has a good point, It should fire once every 30-40 seconds, considering the cool down time reload time and the time it takes to aim the thing...
Even after reading the 3000 shots per 30 seconds, still doesn't work... it would melt your arm after 15 seconds, or less... depending on how it fires and using what substance.
As for the Nova MK VI... It looks like something out of dungeons and dragons, not freelancer. I mean, come on, lets face it, Chains, horns, and a cape? I'm thinking more of Arm mounted weapons, jet packs, and telescopic sight.
I'm glad I could share this info, and I'd be glad to revamp you post/pictures to make them sound more.... reasonable.
Ok, Guys Before You continue to Gut this, Id like to clear some Stuff up....
1. The Avenger Gattling system, yeah It Fires 30 Thousand Rounds Every 15 seconds, Its Used on AirCraft Carriers and a smaller, lighter ROF version for the wWarthog.
2. Whats to say the Green Cas isn;t a PLasma Magazine, where it could Fire Multiple Roundsm ya never know.
3. .80 MM rounds is Equal to a RPG hit, .80 MM rounds Are used on the Mi-28 Havocs Main gun, there damaging, but not one hit kills, Power armour could probably take a few hits from it and still be ok.
4. Hey, Armours armour, The hole design is for Fear effect, The Dark camp emblem on the Armour, the eyes, and the ears, hell look at Space Marines, If i had to fight a plattoon Of Space Marines in real life, id crap my pants.
And this is Sifi guys, and Honestly Are you guy ever going to have to worry about dealing with this Stuff no, so just let Pirate Have some fun for goodness sake.
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Dab this was never intended too be used in RP practice but if people wnat too use it be my guest and Tain i didnt make that Armour its from the Fallout Tactics game
and the reason for the Cloak os its intended for the Elite in that game which is Paladins
so ease off and please keep shuch posts of my topics
also i may have overpowered when i said the Gat gun was intended for one man handling but as Angel said we are in a Sci fi world who says we cant give a Suit of armor Powered Motivators in the joints and make it strength enhancing?
so guys ease up a bit and Dab i did type per 10 seconds too begine with
and Virus Plasma in reality is used too Cut Hardned Titanium with and it travels at the same speed at a Bullet if not faster
Kane,Jun 24 2006, 09:37 PM Wrote:Ho kay... I know this is sci-fi and all that, but ya gotta obey the rules of physics.
Your armor can withstand off .80 caliber rounds? .50 can punch through reinforced concreate walls. The US had to stop using .50 caliber ammunition for thier hum-vees in Iraq because the rounds were going through multiple houses! .80 caliber is about as close as one can get without using f-ing artillary shells! And your saying that this armor can withstand it?
All right, even if it can, the person inside is going to feel a little like something inside an indestructible soup can that has been shot with a shot-gun. Imagine all the force behind a shot like that. They may not die, but they're certianly not going to be doing anything while being shot, and they're still going to feel it in the morning.
And an energy shield? The Phantoms have a load of alien technology, and even they don't have personal energy shields. Not even the big Heavy Assault Armor. Who, by the way, is moving around on directed thrust (rockets) and anti-grav.
Yes, A-MAG can be the fore-most on firearms. Yes, it is sci-fi. Yes, it's all RP. However, one should have limmitations, even if you make them yourself.
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and Kane i do use Limitations just because i dont mention what weaknesses it has doesnt mean it dont have any also i never said the armor was indestructable
and that the person insaide would not feel pain when hit by something as big as an 80mm projectile. in short the armor can take the beating for some time but the person inside will prolly only last for 2 or 3 shots and then he/she would pass out from the Impact force and prolly need a month or 2 in sick bay. think of this as an Commercial when someone try too sell you something they dont yell out in public all the bad stuff they only tell the good stuff about it
and too give people the idea of what a Space marine looks like here is a pic of one
try too imagine a 2,10m high man clad in Ceramite Power armor wielding weapons that normally would need a platform and crew too operate
with the strenght too lift a cra over his head when in the armour
You neglected to mention he's holding a plasma cannon :tease:
Oh and the only way he's that strong and tough is because he's been genetically and biologically enhanced, along with chemotherepy and pyscho-conditioning.
Anyhow, back on the subject here:-
Pirate's right, all the bad bits of a new product are mentioned in the 'really fine print that you need a magnifying glass to see it' on the product itself or in it's instruction manual, the one that doesn't actually help you with any problems what-so-ever.
well my point is as Angel mentioned that this is an Scifi World and nothing is impossible inside the boundries of science and this is Sirius not earth there is alot of new Materials that can take the Heat like Niobium its not very difficult too make Things heat resistant
or make them durable enough too fire at that rate and that range it all depends on physics who says that a Plasma bolt with a solid core cant travel up too 1500 meters?
anyway thx for the critics and ill take it up too consideration in the comings posts i eventually make
Yeah come on guys ... Sci-fi RP again. Its not like its eally going to used.
Then again you could always order a suit or two from A-MAG to enhance your stories.
And the gattling cannons are capable of firing up to 3000 rounds per minute through 6
rotating barrels keeping the overheating problems to a minimum.
The plasma launcher ... Well you are on your own there.
Dab ... Power gaming? ... You should know better.
Hoodlum :P
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Well, Pirate, I apologise. I was making an effort to try and bring this discussion BACK into roleplaying since it is in the "Freelancer Role-Playing" forum. I know what game it is from. I'm an avid fan of the Fallout series. My posting here wasn't a personal opinion of my own but a vain attempt at a joke played out through my character.
And I'm sorry to dispute you, Angel, but the Phalanx CIWS does not fire 30,000 RPM and it is not the same weapon depicted here if that's what you are implying. The GAU-8 is strictly mounted on the A-10. Here's a few links.
The only thing that is capable of firing 30,000 rounds per minute is an Aussie developed electronically fired weapon that uses caseless ammunition if my memory serves me right. Apparently it's notoriously difficult to track down if you don't know the exact model name, also. It doesn't look anything like a gatling gun though. Here's a video.
EDIT: Scrolled down a bit and sorted through some of the chatter. That thing was made by a company called "Metal Storm". They've got some pretty crazy crap there if anyone wants to use it as inspiration for further "RP weapons" or what have you.