(02-25-2019, 06:07 PM)SnakThree Wrote: indie by itself means having no faction. So you most likely wanted to say unofficial group.
Its just another shelco faction but this time its a much lower effort attempt, same member group that brought you the GMG that was worse that meph soloing and DWR before cyberbyte made it bearable to look at but still a an inactive faction so expect some flash drama that will ultimately fizzle out leaving behind people who were passionate about the base idea abandoned and alone.
Expect this faction to consist of people who are shelco fans, if you like the idea of this faction my firm advice is to join RM they might be a bit banana from time to time but at least they'll always be around.
All of this is just my opinion based on what I've seen of previous factions from these people and doesn't necessarily reflect what the future is guaranteed to look like.
Maybe you give those guys some times to have at least one or two encounters before judging them on the person who created/leading the faction?
(02-25-2019, 06:07 PM)SnakThree Wrote: indie by itself means having no faction. So you most likely wanted to say unofficial group.
Its just another shelco faction but this time its a much lower effort attempt, same member group that brought you the GMG that was worse that meph soloing and DWR before cyberbyte made it bearable to look at but still a an inactive faction so expect some flash drama that will ultimately fizzle out leaving behind people who were passionate about the base idea abandoned and alone.
Expect this faction to consist of people who are shelco fans, if you like the idea of this faction my firm advice is to join RM they might be a bit banana from time to time but at least they'll always be around.
All of this is just my opinion based on what I've seen of previous factions from these people and doesn't necessarily reflect what the future is guaranteed to look like.
Maybe you give those guys some times to have at least one or two encounters before judging them on the person who created/leading the faction?
I joined the discord, my judging is based off the people in it. not the person leading it alone, its the same copypaste squad as before.
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Do you usually abuse the Rheinland laws to extort and shoot people, or is this some sort of freak accident? I mean, it seemed to me you were looking for an excuse to shoot me, but you weren't very happy when I hit you with your own laws. While I don't mind wasting an hour on stuff like that, some people have a limited time they can pool into a game and it would really suck if they spent it all while trying to explain the Rheinland Laws to the Rheinland military for a whole hour.
[04.03.2019 14:44:26] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: Greetings Citizen
[04.03.2019 14:44:38] Reaper: Good day, herr Eisenach.
[04.03.2019 14:45:07] Reaper: Can I help you?
[04.03.2019 14:45:10] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: What are your intentions in Rheinland with sucha ship?
[04.03.2019 14:45:27] Reaper: Define "such a ship".
[04.03.2019 14:45:39] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Uhh a Freelancer in a ...What is that... Lane Hacker Technology?
[04.03.2019 14:45:40] Reaper: Also currently, my intentions are simple.
[04.03.2019 14:45:42] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: Certainly doesn't seem like a ship build for peaceful matters
[04.03.2019 14:45:48] Reaper: I want to move to the Omegas.
[04.03.2019 14:46:05] Reaper: Oh yeah, now that you mention it.
[04.03.2019 14:46:16] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Just 'bypassing' our Home to Omegas, eh?
[04.03.2019 14:46:18] Reaper: This might explain why the law enforcement isn't very fond of me.
[04.03.2019 14:46:48] Reaper: But hey, it's a good ship. If you don't mind the smell of burning cables from time to time.
[04.03.2019 14:47:15] Reaper: And yeah, I heart some stuff is happening in the Omegas, people in need of protection against pirates.
[04.03.2019 14:47:18] Reaper: And other hoodlums.
[04.03.2019 14:47:27] Reaper: So I figure, where there is trouble, there is cash to be made.
[04.03.2019 14:47:44] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: I don't like the fact that these Terrorists sell their stuff to Freelancers
[04.03.2019 14:47:58] Reaper: This is an obsolete model.
[04.03.2019 14:48:08] Reaper: They most likely figured it's no good and got rid of it.
[04.03.2019 14:48:30] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: And I don't like ... let me call it suspicious freelancers, to use our Home as Gate to the Omegas
[04.03.2019 14:48:54] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: So how did you obtain it then?
[04.03.2019 14:49:06] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: Was it merely floating around in space? To say the least
[04.03.2019 14:49:12] Reaper: I don't like being called suspicious by the military, but I don't complain about it.
[04.03.2019 14:49:13] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: I would not believe such a story
[04.03.2019 14:49:15] Reaper: I bought it, obviously.
[04.03.2019 14:49:40] Reaper: From a vendor nearby.
[04.03.2019 14:49:57] Reaper: Heisenberg Research Station was the place.
[04.03.2019 14:50:09] Reaper: It's one jump gate away.
[04.03.2019 14:50:47] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Well, you are flying a ship of terrorist Technology, just pass to the Omegas and tell stories hard to believe, tell me one -
[04.03.2019 14:50:52] Reaper: Now, am I under arrest, herr Eisenach, or can I proceed on my marry way?
[04.03.2019 14:50:58] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: - reason to not call you suspicious
[04.03.2019 14:51:14] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: Arrest? Nobody you are under arrest ... yet
[04.03.2019 14:51:44] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: This is but a conversation with someone passing through Rheinland for reason found to be suspicious by us
[04.03.2019 14:52:34] Reaper: So I can go then?
[04.03.2019 14:53:07] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: *Lara looks closer* Interesting... That engine, it's none I ever saw, not approved in Rheinland... Where did you buy it
[04.03.2019 14:53:47] Reaper: Not approved? Can you provide me a list of approved engines?
[04.03.2019 14:54:11] Reaper: 'cause, I've just pulled the laws of this place, I don't see anything about banned engines.
[04.03.2019 14:54:22] Reaper: Plus, they are from the same place, Heisenberg.
[04.03.2019 14:54:57] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Don't mess with the Militaer, pilot! If there is anything more than suspicious with any technology not registrated in -
[04.03.2019 14:55:10] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: - Rheinland, I can ask where it comes from
[04.03.2019 14:55:45] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: We talk to pilots with suspicios technology in order to secure our home, our people.
[04.03.2019 14:55:46] Reaper: Oh, I ain't messing around. I've got firm knowledge on the laws. I ain't getting caged out of negligence again.
[04.03.2019 14:56:18] Reaper: So you would harras the people of Rheinland to protect the people of Rheinland?
[04.03.2019 14:56:57] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: So, you want to tell me you are a Citizen of Rheinland?
[04.03.2019 14:57:09] Reaper: Correct.
[04.03.2019 14:57:48] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Ah ja, just found someting... Hang on
[04.03.2019 14:58:04] Reaper: Nina Sass, New Berlin born and raised.
[04.03.2019 14:58:15] Alaehnae: Guten Tag.
[04.03.2019 14:58:17] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Paragraph 2.2.3 Frau Sass,
[04.03.2019 14:58:26] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: Greetings Sir
[04.03.2019 14:59:07] Death: Vagrant.Parthenope was put out of action by Mercury.Seven (Gun).
[04.03.2019 14:59:15] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: ''Equipment manufactured by terrorist groups, [...], as well as foreighn pirate parties.
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[04.03.2019 15:06:46] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Halt Reaper!
[04.03.2019 15:07:05] Reaper: I can't halt anymore.
[04.03.2019 15:07:18] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Oh, you can do
[04.03.2019 15:07:26] Reaper: How can I not move more?
[04.03.2019 15:07:41] Reaper: I cannot become more stationary that completely stationary.
[04.03.2019 15:07:51] Reaper: Plus, this baby ain't build by hackers, nuh-uh.
[04.03.2019 15:08:02] Reaper: Home made, right here on Heisenberg station.
[04.03.2019 15:08:11] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: *Laura gets little angry* You tell me now your equipment, I dno't believe it's made in Rheinland
[04.03.2019 15:08:18] Reaper: By the faithful and happy civilian ship builders./
[04.03.2019 15:08:41] Reaper: Sadly, it's stamped and everything.
[04.03.2019 15:08:47] Reaper: Metal comes from Oder shipyards.
[04.03.2019 15:08:58] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: And I can ask all this according to Paragraph 2.2.3, you know this probably
[04.03.2019 15:09:26] Reaper: Thing is, no one where on this ship's papers says it's made by criminals or terrorist or hackers.
[04.03.2019 15:09:35] Reaper: Nowhere, I mean.
[04.03.2019 15:09:54] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Sure they don't tell right away that they constructed it
[04.03.2019 15:10:10] Reaper: But can you prove they actually did?
[04.03.2019 15:10:19] Reaper: Because I can easily prove where I purchased the vessel.
[04.03.2019 15:10:40] Reaper: And provide all the required papers, licenses, permits and yearly servicing receits.
[04.03.2019 15:11:03] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Ich muss doch sehr bitten, I don't have to prove anything, you have to prove that to me. Best thing would be you show me that -
[04.03.2019 15:11:13] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: - constructor of these thengs.
[04.03.2019 15:11:37] Reaper: In order to prosecute me, you have to first build a case. You cannot act without solid evidence.
[04.03.2019 15:11:51] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: Guilty until proven innocent
[04.03.2019 15:11:54] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: Ever heard of it ?
[04.03.2019 15:12:08] Reaper: Go on then, arrest me.
[04.03.2019 15:12:36] Reaper: I dare you to arrest a completely innocent citizen of the Federal Republic of Rheinland.
[04.03.2019 15:12:43] Reaper: I'll hit you with a lawsuit you'll never forget.
[04.03.2019 15:13:13] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Liebe Frau, we do another thing now, you will pay a fine and hand over that engine to me, i'll take that to the BDM and they -
[04.03.2019 15:13:19] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: Is that a threat?
[04.03.2019 15:13:28] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: - do a little research on it
[04.03.2019 15:13:35] Reaper: Now, a threat would involve a promise of violence.
[04.03.2019 15:13:38] Reaper: Did I mention violence?
[04.03.2019 15:14:01] Reaper: For all intents and purposes, this vessel is classified as a "Border Worlds" Fighter.
[04.03.2019 15:14:08] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: *tries to calm herself down*
[04.03.2019 15:14:10] Reaper: It is not build by any terrorists.
[04.03.2019 15:14:35] Reaper: You have no right or reason to fine me anything.
[04.03.2019 15:14:47] Reaper: Neither you have the right to harras me and fire warning shots at a civilian.
[04.03.2019 15:14:54] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: WE EXECUTE THE LAW HERE NOT YOU!
[04.03.2019 15:14:57] Reaper: Or drop mines, for that matter.
[04.03.2019 15:15:03] Reaper: A mine that nearly killed me.
[04.03.2019 15:15:12] Reaper: You do not execute any law, you harras people.
[04.03.2019 15:15:23] Reaper: And you use your law as an excuse to do so.
[04.03.2019 15:15:30] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: *tries to calm down* I'm sorry, but you are cutting the last of my Nerves
[04.03.2019 15:16:05] Reaper: May I suggest some sort of sedative then? You are clearly not fit to be working with people.
[04.03.2019 15:16:23] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Leutnant Eisenach, how much is the Fine again for insulting officials?
[04.03.2019 15:16:30] Reaper: Have you considered a more relaxed job, such as, but not limited to head chef, hygience specialist or perhaps a mailman?
[04.03.2019 15:16:55] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: 500000 to 1000000 Credits, Sir
[04.03.2019 15:16:57] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: And the fine for disobeying the orders of the Militaer?
[04.03.2019 15:17:03] Reaper: Insulting? Don't go there, I never insulted you, I am, for all intents and purposes, truly worried about your nerves.
[04.03.2019 15:17:14] Reaper: Which order did I disobey?
[04.03.2019 15:17:21] Reaper: You haven't issued any.
[04.03.2019 15:17:39] Reaper: This really isn't working out for you, isn't it?
[04.03.2019 15:17:40] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: The same amount of credits
[04.03.2019 15:17:46] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: I ordered you to hand over that engine now, that I can pass it on to the BDM...
[04.03.2019 15:17:59] Death: Ashcolt was put out of action by Platinum.Diggah (Missile/Torpedo).
[04.03.2019 15:18:00] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Danke, Herr Eisenach
[04.03.2019 15:18:13] Reaper: Hand over my engine? Would you like in a plastic cup or in a bag to go?
[04.03.2019 15:18:36] Reaper: My engine isn't illegal. Neither your law allow you to command me to dismantle my ship when there is anything illegal on it.
[04.03.2019 15:18:53] /set chattime on
[04.03.2019 15:18:53] OK
[04.03.2019 15:19:25] 2019-03-04 15:17:39 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:19:25] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Well, therefor you don't cooperate about the real origin of that think, I'll have to pass this one to the BDM for further -
[04.03.2019 15:19:31] 2019-03-04 15:17:45 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:19:31] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: -research
[04.03.2019 15:19:34] Reaper: There aren't any written regulations on engines.
[04.03.2019 15:19:53] Reaper: Which allows me to fly with whatever propulsion I desire.
[04.03.2019 15:20:00] 2019-03-04 15:18:15 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:20:00] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: Well can you exactly tell us where this engine was produced?
[04.03.2019 15:20:07] 2019-03-04 15:18:21 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:20:07] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: Maybe it was made by pirates
[04.03.2019 15:20:15] Reaper: Same place as the ship, Heisenberg.
[04.03.2019 15:20:36] Reaper: I can say the same thing about your engine, it has as much merit as your statement about mine.
[04.03.2019 15:20:39] 2019-03-04 15:18:53 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:20:39] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: Can those people on Heisenberg provide us with the blueprints to this engine
[04.03.2019 15:20:50] Reaper: That would be a violation of their patents.
[04.03.2019 15:20:50] 2019-03-04 15:19:04 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:20:50] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: to confirm that it carries no harm to any ship in Rheinland
[04.03.2019 15:20:53] 2019-03-04 15:19:07 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:20:53] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: ?
[04.03.2019 15:20:54] Reaper: That's intelectual property.
[04.03.2019 15:21:07] 2019-03-04 15:19:21 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:21:07] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Until now,
[04.03.2019 15:21:08] Reaper: Plus, that's not my problem, that's their problem.
[04.03.2019 15:21:10] 2019-03-04 15:19:25 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:21:10] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: Patents? But there is no patent on this engine in our databank
[04.03.2019 15:21:20] 2019-03-04 15:19:35 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:21:20] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: Therefore it is not registered
[04.03.2019 15:21:22] Reaper: Pull me the patent of your engines from your databank.
[04.03.2019 15:21:46] Reaper: I want number, date and time of the approval of the patent.
[04.03.2019 15:21:58] 2019-03-04 15:20:13 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:21:58] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: Giving those to a mere civilian who might not even be from Rheinland? Can you imagine my disbelief?
[04.03.2019 15:22:08] Reaper: That's public knowledge.
[04.03.2019 15:22:10] Reaper: All patents are.
[04.03.2019 15:22:14] Reaper: Obviously.
[04.03.2019 15:22:19] 2019-03-04 15:20:33 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:22:19] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: If you refuse to supply us with the information we have to confiscate that engine, so just tell us what we want to know
[04.03.2019 15:22:22] 2019-03-04 15:20:37 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:22:22] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: The rheinland public perhaps
[04.03.2019 15:22:29] Reaper: Oh, but I told you.
[04.03.2019 15:22:35] 2019-03-04 15:20:50 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:22:35] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: certainly not those who might be affiliated with pirates
[04.03.2019 15:22:38] Reaper: Heisenberg research station, it's built there.
[04.03.2019 15:23:01] Reaper: Look, we can do this all day.
[04.03.2019 15:23:10] Reaper: You can pull laws and I can tell you why you can't use them against me.
[04.03.2019 15:23:17] Reaper: I'm absolutely legal and clean.
[04.03.2019 15:23:25] 2019-03-04 15:21:39 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:23:25] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: no you are not.
[04.03.2019 15:23:28] Reaper: Prove it.
[04.03.2019 15:23:38] Reaper: You can't, because as I said, I'm clean.
[04.03.2019 15:24:07] 2019-03-04 15:22:22 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:24:07] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: You are hiding these god damn information you have to pass to us otherwise you are not clean! We need to see the blueprints.
[04.03.2019 15:24:08] Reaper: Civilian ship, border words designs, free for use by the mass. Civilian engines, civilian weapons, civilian seats.
[04.03.2019 15:24:21] 2019-03-04 15:22:35 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:24:21] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: No, its no civilian engine
[04.03.2019 15:24:21] Reaper: Which information have I witheld?
[04.03.2019 15:24:26] Reaper: It's made by civilians.
[04.03.2019 15:24:32] 2019-03-04 15:22:47 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:24:32] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Its a fu... Prototype
[04.03.2019 15:24:45] Reaper: It is?
[04.03.2019 15:24:51] Reaper: You can tell that from way over there?
[04.03.2019 15:25:03] 2019-03-04 15:23:17 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:25:03] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Not approved by any faction to be their product
[04.03.2019 15:25:24] Reaper: And what do you care? Your law can't touch it if it's not pirate-made.
[04.03.2019 15:25:29] Reaper: Which it clearly isnt.
[04.03.2019 15:25:35] 2019-03-04 15:23:49 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:25:35] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Now listen, gute Frau.
[04.03.2019 15:25:45] Tip: Armor Upgrades are permanent items which, when mounted, multiply your ship's base hitpoints. It is an essential item on any ship.
[04.03.2019 15:25:49] Reaper: All ears.
[04.03.2019 15:26:19] MrValerian: Greetings officers
[04.03.2019 15:26:29] 2019-03-04 15:24:44 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:26:29] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: Greetings
[04.03.2019 15:26:48] 2019-03-04 15:25:03 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:26:48] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: You can hand over that engine now, as described in Artikel 2 Pr. 2.2.5.1, pay 10mio SC as fine, Pr 2.2.5.2 -
[04.03.2019 15:26:57] 2019-03-04 15:25:12 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:26:57] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: -and go wherever you want
[04.03.2019 15:27:00] 2019-03-04 15:25:14 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:27:00] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: OR
[04.03.2019 15:27:55] Reaper: let me double check your article again.
[04.03.2019 15:27:56] 2019-03-04 15:26:10 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:27:56] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: You pay the 10mio SC and you will be banned from Rheinland as described in 2.2.5.2
[04.03.2019 15:28:58] Reaper: I'm not in violation of those laws.
[04.03.2019 15:29:17] 2019-03-04 15:27:31 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:29:17] Death: Ashcolt was put out of action by LR-Pegged.Promotion (Gun).
[04.03.2019 15:29:17] Reaper: 2.2.5.1 Is about unmounted illegal equipment.
[04.03.2019 15:29:20] Reaper: I don't have that.
[04.03.2019 15:29:22] Reaper: Obviously.
[04.03.2019 15:29:31] 2019-03-04 15:27:45 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:29:31] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: That Equipment is the Engine
[04.03.2019 15:29:38] Reaper: But it's not unmounted.
[04.03.2019 15:29:46] Reaper: Thus, 2.2.5.2 doesn't really apply here.
[04.03.2019 15:30:05] Reaper: Correction, 2.2.5.1 doesn't apply here.
[04.03.2019 15:30:09] Reaper: Yet you mentioned it?
[04.03.2019 15:30:20] Reaper: As for, 2.2.5.2 my equipment isn't on the list of banned equipment.
[04.03.2019 15:30:25] Reaper: Thus, this doesn't apply either.
[04.03.2019 15:30:29] 2019-03-04 15:28:43 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:30:29] Death: Michal was put out of action by LR-Pegged.Promotion (Gun).
[04.03.2019 15:30:46] 2019-03-04 15:29:00 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:30:46] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Yea, I give you the cance to unmount it now and hand it over, and 2.2.5.2 applies, because the Equipment is not registered in -
[04.03.2019 15:30:50] 2019-03-04 15:29:05 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:30:50] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Rheinland officially
[04.03.2019 15:31:01] 2019-03-04 15:29:16 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:31:01] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: And you refuse to show us the Blueprint
[04.03.2019 15:31:06] Reaper: The engine is built into the ship, this is not a reasonable or realistic way to handle the situation.
[04.03.2019 15:31:29] 2019-03-04 15:29:43 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:31:29] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Oh, I can help you extracting it from the ship.
[04.03.2019 15:31:29] Reaper: Which means it is impossible to comply with it, as it would disintegrate me and my ship in space.
[04.03.2019 15:32:10] Reaper: But you don't have the right to, since it's not listed in your banned equipment list, thus it's legal.
[04.03.2019 15:32:15] Reaper: Or am I wrong?
[04.03.2019 15:32:42] 2019-03-04 15:30:56 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:32:42] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Ye, you are wrong, until you showed us the constructor and these Blueprints
[04.03.2019 15:33:01] 2019-03-04 15:31:15 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:33:01] Death: Michal suffered a self-inflicted catastrophic decompression.
[04.03.2019 15:33:04] Reaper: Now, I am not wrong, because this engine is not a prototype, it's sold in Rheinland and thus it's known to the authorities.
[04.03.2019 15:33:14] Reaper: If they haven't listed it as banned, then it's not banned.
[04.03.2019 15:33:35] Reaper: You cannot simple use the laws to harras people, as it is illegal.
[04.03.2019 15:33:40] 2019-03-04 15:31:54 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:33:40] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: It IS a prototype and if authorities would know about it, It would't be unknown to me.
[04.03.2019 15:33:49] Reaper: It is a mass production engine that's being sold.
[04.03.2019 15:34:02] 2019-03-04 15:32:16 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:34:02] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: I'm not harrassing you. And it's no mass production
[04.03.2019 15:34:05] Reaper: I literally have another one in storage.
[04.03.2019 15:34:17] 2019-03-04 15:32:32 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:34:17] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: I don't see any people flying around with it
[04.03.2019 15:34:31] Reaper: Because it's expensive.
[04.03.2019 15:34:37] Reaper: And people are not rich?
[04.03.2019 15:35:06] Reaper: So, your reason to deem my engine illegal is because people don't fly around with it. Or you haven't seen them?
[04.03.2019 15:35:18] 2019-03-04 15:33:32 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:35:18] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: But Iv'e got enough, you still refuse to pay and leave Rheinland or this piece of foreign Technology to me, right?
[04.03.2019 15:35:18] Reaper: That's is indeed incredibly logic. Solid as granite.
[04.03.2019 15:35:34] Reaper: I'm not paying because I'm not in a violation.
[04.03.2019 15:35:50] Reaper: If you believe you are in the right, I'm sure we'll see eachother in the court of law on Planet New Berlin.
[04.03.2019 15:36:09] Reaper: You are extorting me.
[04.03.2019 15:36:17] Reaper: You are also harrasing me.
[04.03.2019 15:36:21] 2019-03-04 15:34:35 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:36:21] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: You are annoying me
[04.03.2019 15:36:31] Reaper: You're using the laws of the Federal Republic of Rheinland as a shield and mace.
[04.03.2019 15:36:38] Reaper: And you have no right to do so..
[04.03.2019 15:36:44] Reaper: Now can I go, or you have something else to say?
[04.03.2019 15:36:52] /set chattime on
[04.03.2019 15:36:52] OK
[04.03.2019 15:37:05] 2019-03-04 15:35:19 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:37:05] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: At least you'll have to pay 1mio for your more than bad and insulting behavior
[04.03.2019 15:37:15] Reaper: Quote the insult.
[04.03.2019 15:37:32] Reaper: I have not insulted you and I have adressed you with the respect an officer deserves.
[04.03.2019 15:37:39] 2019-03-04 15:35:53 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:37:39] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: You want me to hear the whole aodie logs now?
[04.03.2019 15:37:48] 2019-03-04 15:36:02 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:37:48] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: audio i mean
[04.03.2019 15:37:54] Reaper: I was even worried about your nerves and suggest a different line of work.
[04.03.2019 15:38:01] Reaper: I can listen to it again and again.
[04.03.2019 15:38:05] Reaper: There isn't an insult in there.
[04.03.2019 15:38:11] 2019-03-04 15:36:26 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:38:11] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: That line, personally insulted me.
[04.03.2019 15:38:11] Reaper: The only person who swore was...you.
[04.03.2019 15:38:29] 2019-03-04 15:36:44 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:38:29] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: You just come here,
[04.03.2019 15:38:34] Reaper: I'm sorry but it's not my fault you cannot make a difference from a suggestion and an insult.
[04.03.2019 15:38:58] 2019-03-04 15:37:12 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:38:58] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: You talk to us as we had nothing else to do than discussing with people like you
[04.03.2019 15:38:59] Reaper: That is, if anything, your personal judgement that's involved.
[04.03.2019 15:39:09] Reaper: Wrong, you stopped me.
[04.03.2019 15:39:17] Reaper: I never had the desire or the need to converse with you.
[04.03.2019 15:39:25] 2019-03-04 15:37:40 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:39:25] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: You know the reason why we did
[04.03.2019 15:39:30] 2019-03-04 15:37:44 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:39:30] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: But anyway
[04.03.2019 15:39:42] Reaper: You and your dear coworked officer pulled me over.
[04.03.2019 15:39:50] Reaper: Coworker, I mean.
[04.03.2019 15:40:09] 2019-03-04 15:38:23 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:40:09] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: You even dared to tell a Militaerpilot to go and look for a new job
[04.03.2019 15:40:24] 2019-03-04 15:38:38 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:40:24] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: It seems you don't know anything about the Militaer
[04.03.2019 15:40:27] Reaper: Wrong, I suggest a change of your line of work.
[04.03.2019 15:40:32] Reaper: I did not order to told you to do it.
[04.03.2019 15:40:35] Reaper: I suggest it.
[04.03.2019 15:40:43] Reaper: What you do with that suggestion is entirely up to you.
[04.03.2019 15:40:44] 2019-03-04 15:38:59 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:40:44] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: You don't know how proud we are to fly for our Vaterland
[04.03.2019 15:40:55] 2019-03-04 15:39:10 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:40:55] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: You are something I would call Halunkin
[04.03.2019 15:41:05] Reaper: It's not my business to know that.
[04.03.2019 15:41:08] Reaper: I keep to myself.
[04.03.2019 15:41:15] Reaper: Now, is there anything else you wish to discuss with me?
[04.03.2019 15:41:18] 2019-03-04 15:39:32 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:41:18] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: But anyway you are just stealing my time
[04.03.2019 15:41:19] Reaper: Or am I free to go?
[04.03.2019 15:41:49] 2019-03-04 15:40:02 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:41:49] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: *grumbles* I don't want to see you ever again here in that ship
[04.03.2019 15:42:03] Reaper: Roger that.
[04.03.2019 15:42:05] 2019-03-04 15:40:19 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:42:05] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Now you can leave to your beloved Omegas
[04.03.2019 15:42:31] 2019-03-04 15:40:45 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:42:31] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: *grumbles* May the Hessians catch her....
[04.03.2019 15:42:50] Reaper: Oh and uh, do call me if you want me to shut you down in a legal debate again. I would very much enjoy that.
[04.03.2019 15:43:04] 2019-03-04 15:41:18 SMT Traffic control alert: Reaper has requested to dock
(03-04-2019, 04:55 PM)Implosion Wrote: Do you usually abuse the Rheinland laws to extort and shoot people, or is this some sort of freak accident? I mean, it seemed to me you were looking for an excuse to shoot me, but you weren't very happy when I hit you with your own laws. While I don't mind wasting an hour on stuff like that, some people have a limited time they can pool into a game and it would really suck if they spent it all while trying to explain the Rheinland Laws to the Rheinland military for a whole hour.
[04.03.2019 14:44:26] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: Greetings Citizen
[04.03.2019 14:44:38] Reaper: Good day, herr Eisenach.
[04.03.2019 14:45:07] Reaper: Can I help you?
[04.03.2019 14:45:10] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: What are your intentions in Rheinland with sucha ship?
[04.03.2019 14:45:27] Reaper: Define "such a ship".
[04.03.2019 14:45:39] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Uhh a Freelancer in a ...What is that... Lane Hacker Technology?
[04.03.2019 14:45:40] Reaper: Also currently, my intentions are simple.
[04.03.2019 14:45:42] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: Certainly doesn't seem like a ship build for peaceful matters
[04.03.2019 14:45:48] Reaper: I want to move to the Omegas.
[04.03.2019 14:46:05] Reaper: Oh yeah, now that you mention it.
[04.03.2019 14:46:16] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Just 'bypassing' our Home to Omegas, eh?
[04.03.2019 14:46:18] Reaper: This might explain why the law enforcement isn't very fond of me.
[04.03.2019 14:46:48] Reaper: But hey, it's a good ship. If you don't mind the smell of burning cables from time to time.
[04.03.2019 14:47:15] Reaper: And yeah, I heart some stuff is happening in the Omegas, people in need of protection against pirates.
[04.03.2019 14:47:18] Reaper: And other hoodlums.
[04.03.2019 14:47:27] Reaper: So I figure, where there is trouble, there is cash to be made.
[04.03.2019 14:47:44] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: I don't like the fact that these Terrorists sell their stuff to Freelancers
[04.03.2019 14:47:58] Reaper: This is an obsolete model.
[04.03.2019 14:48:08] Reaper: They most likely figured it's no good and got rid of it.
[04.03.2019 14:48:30] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: And I don't like ... let me call it suspicious freelancers, to use our Home as Gate to the Omegas
[04.03.2019 14:48:54] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: So how did you obtain it then?
[04.03.2019 14:49:06] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: Was it merely floating around in space? To say the least
[04.03.2019 14:49:12] Reaper: I don't like being called suspicious by the military, but I don't complain about it.
[04.03.2019 14:49:13] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: I would not believe such a story
[04.03.2019 14:49:15] Reaper: I bought it, obviously.
[04.03.2019 14:49:40] Reaper: From a vendor nearby.
[04.03.2019 14:49:57] Reaper: Heisenberg Research Station was the place.
[04.03.2019 14:50:09] Reaper: It's one jump gate away.
[04.03.2019 14:50:47] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Well, you are flying a ship of terrorist Technology, just pass to the Omegas and tell stories hard to believe, tell me one -
[04.03.2019 14:50:52] Reaper: Now, am I under arrest, herr Eisenach, or can I proceed on my marry way?
[04.03.2019 14:50:58] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: - reason to not call you suspicious
[04.03.2019 14:51:14] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: Arrest? Nobody you are under arrest ... yet
[04.03.2019 14:51:44] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: This is but a conversation with someone passing through Rheinland for reason found to be suspicious by us
[04.03.2019 14:52:34] Reaper: So I can go then?
[04.03.2019 14:53:07] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: *Lara looks closer* Interesting... That engine, it's none I ever saw, not approved in Rheinland... Where did you buy it
[04.03.2019 14:53:47] Reaper: Not approved? Can you provide me a list of approved engines?
[04.03.2019 14:54:11] Reaper: 'cause, I've just pulled the laws of this place, I don't see anything about banned engines.
[04.03.2019 14:54:22] Reaper: Plus, they are from the same place, Heisenberg.
[04.03.2019 14:54:57] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Don't mess with the Militaer, pilot! If there is anything more than suspicious with any technology not registrated in -
[04.03.2019 14:55:10] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: - Rheinland, I can ask where it comes from
[04.03.2019 14:55:45] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: We talk to pilots with suspicios technology in order to secure our home, our people.
[04.03.2019 14:55:46] Reaper: Oh, I ain't messing around. I've got firm knowledge on the laws. I ain't getting caged out of negligence again.
[04.03.2019 14:56:18] Reaper: So you would harras the people of Rheinland to protect the people of Rheinland?
[04.03.2019 14:56:57] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: So, you want to tell me you are a Citizen of Rheinland?
[04.03.2019 14:57:09] Reaper: Correct.
[04.03.2019 14:57:48] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Ah ja, just found someting... Hang on
[04.03.2019 14:58:04] Reaper: Nina Sass, New Berlin born and raised.
[04.03.2019 14:58:15] Alaehnae: Guten Tag.
[04.03.2019 14:58:17] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Paragraph 2.2.3 Frau Sass,
[04.03.2019 14:58:26] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: Greetings Sir
[04.03.2019 14:59:07] Death: Vagrant.Parthenope was put out of action by Mercury.Seven (Gun).
[04.03.2019 14:59:15] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: ''Equipment manufactured by terrorist groups, [...], as well as foreighn pirate parties.
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[04.03.2019 15:06:46] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Halt Reaper!
[04.03.2019 15:07:05] Reaper: I can't halt anymore.
[04.03.2019 15:07:18] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Oh, you can do
[04.03.2019 15:07:26] Reaper: How can I not move more?
[04.03.2019 15:07:41] Reaper: I cannot become more stationary that completely stationary.
[04.03.2019 15:07:51] Reaper: Plus, this baby ain't build by hackers, nuh-uh.
[04.03.2019 15:08:02] Reaper: Home made, right here on Heisenberg station.
[04.03.2019 15:08:11] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: *Laura gets little angry* You tell me now your equipment, I dno't believe it's made in Rheinland
[04.03.2019 15:08:18] Reaper: By the faithful and happy civilian ship builders./
[04.03.2019 15:08:41] Reaper: Sadly, it's stamped and everything.
[04.03.2019 15:08:47] Reaper: Metal comes from Oder shipyards.
[04.03.2019 15:08:58] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: And I can ask all this according to Paragraph 2.2.3, you know this probably
[04.03.2019 15:09:26] Reaper: Thing is, no one where on this ship's papers says it's made by criminals or terrorist or hackers.
[04.03.2019 15:09:35] Reaper: Nowhere, I mean.
[04.03.2019 15:09:54] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Sure they don't tell right away that they constructed it
[04.03.2019 15:10:10] Reaper: But can you prove they actually did?
[04.03.2019 15:10:19] Reaper: Because I can easily prove where I purchased the vessel.
[04.03.2019 15:10:40] Reaper: And provide all the required papers, licenses, permits and yearly servicing receits.
[04.03.2019 15:11:03] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Ich muss doch sehr bitten, I don't have to prove anything, you have to prove that to me. Best thing would be you show me that -
[04.03.2019 15:11:13] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: - constructor of these thengs.
[04.03.2019 15:11:37] Reaper: In order to prosecute me, you have to first build a case. You cannot act without solid evidence.
[04.03.2019 15:11:51] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: Guilty until proven innocent
[04.03.2019 15:11:54] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: Ever heard of it ?
[04.03.2019 15:12:08] Reaper: Go on then, arrest me.
[04.03.2019 15:12:36] Reaper: I dare you to arrest a completely innocent citizen of the Federal Republic of Rheinland.
[04.03.2019 15:12:43] Reaper: I'll hit you with a lawsuit you'll never forget.
[04.03.2019 15:13:13] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Liebe Frau, we do another thing now, you will pay a fine and hand over that engine to me, i'll take that to the BDM and they -
[04.03.2019 15:13:19] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: Is that a threat?
[04.03.2019 15:13:28] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: - do a little research on it
[04.03.2019 15:13:35] Reaper: Now, a threat would involve a promise of violence.
[04.03.2019 15:13:38] Reaper: Did I mention violence?
[04.03.2019 15:14:01] Reaper: For all intents and purposes, this vessel is classified as a "Border Worlds" Fighter.
[04.03.2019 15:14:08] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: *tries to calm herself down*
[04.03.2019 15:14:10] Reaper: It is not build by any terrorists.
[04.03.2019 15:14:35] Reaper: You have no right or reason to fine me anything.
[04.03.2019 15:14:47] Reaper: Neither you have the right to harras me and fire warning shots at a civilian.
[04.03.2019 15:14:54] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: WE EXECUTE THE LAW HERE NOT YOU!
[04.03.2019 15:14:57] Reaper: Or drop mines, for that matter.
[04.03.2019 15:15:03] Reaper: A mine that nearly killed me.
[04.03.2019 15:15:12] Reaper: You do not execute any law, you harras people.
[04.03.2019 15:15:23] Reaper: And you use your law as an excuse to do so.
[04.03.2019 15:15:30] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: *tries to calm down* I'm sorry, but you are cutting the last of my Nerves
[04.03.2019 15:16:05] Reaper: May I suggest some sort of sedative then? You are clearly not fit to be working with people.
[04.03.2019 15:16:23] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Leutnant Eisenach, how much is the Fine again for insulting officials?
[04.03.2019 15:16:30] Reaper: Have you considered a more relaxed job, such as, but not limited to head chef, hygience specialist or perhaps a mailman?
[04.03.2019 15:16:55] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: 500000 to 1000000 Credits, Sir
[04.03.2019 15:16:57] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: And the fine for disobeying the orders of the Militaer?
[04.03.2019 15:17:03] Reaper: Insulting? Don't go there, I never insulted you, I am, for all intents and purposes, truly worried about your nerves.
[04.03.2019 15:17:14] Reaper: Which order did I disobey?
[04.03.2019 15:17:21] Reaper: You haven't issued any.
[04.03.2019 15:17:39] Reaper: This really isn't working out for you, isn't it?
[04.03.2019 15:17:40] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: The same amount of credits
[04.03.2019 15:17:46] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: I ordered you to hand over that engine now, that I can pass it on to the BDM...
[04.03.2019 15:17:59] Death: Ashcolt was put out of action by Platinum.Diggah (Missile/Torpedo).
[04.03.2019 15:18:00] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Danke, Herr Eisenach
[04.03.2019 15:18:13] Reaper: Hand over my engine? Would you like in a plastic cup or in a bag to go?
[04.03.2019 15:18:36] Reaper: My engine isn't illegal. Neither your law allow you to command me to dismantle my ship when there is anything illegal on it.
[04.03.2019 15:18:53] /set chattime on
[04.03.2019 15:18:53] OK
[04.03.2019 15:19:25] 2019-03-04 15:17:39 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:19:25] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Well, therefor you don't cooperate about the real origin of that think, I'll have to pass this one to the BDM for further -
[04.03.2019 15:19:31] 2019-03-04 15:17:45 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:19:31] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: -research
[04.03.2019 15:19:34] Reaper: There aren't any written regulations on engines.
[04.03.2019 15:19:53] Reaper: Which allows me to fly with whatever propulsion I desire.
[04.03.2019 15:20:00] 2019-03-04 15:18:15 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:20:00] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: Well can you exactly tell us where this engine was produced?
[04.03.2019 15:20:07] 2019-03-04 15:18:21 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:20:07] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: Maybe it was made by pirates
[04.03.2019 15:20:15] Reaper: Same place as the ship, Heisenberg.
[04.03.2019 15:20:36] Reaper: I can say the same thing about your engine, it has as much merit as your statement about mine.
[04.03.2019 15:20:39] 2019-03-04 15:18:53 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:20:39] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: Can those people on Heisenberg provide us with the blueprints to this engine
[04.03.2019 15:20:50] Reaper: That would be a violation of their patents.
[04.03.2019 15:20:50] 2019-03-04 15:19:04 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:20:50] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: to confirm that it carries no harm to any ship in Rheinland
[04.03.2019 15:20:53] 2019-03-04 15:19:07 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:20:53] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: ?
[04.03.2019 15:20:54] Reaper: That's intelectual property.
[04.03.2019 15:21:07] 2019-03-04 15:19:21 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:21:07] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Until now,
[04.03.2019 15:21:08] Reaper: Plus, that's not my problem, that's their problem.
[04.03.2019 15:21:10] 2019-03-04 15:19:25 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:21:10] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: Patents? But there is no patent on this engine in our databank
[04.03.2019 15:21:20] 2019-03-04 15:19:35 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:21:20] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: Therefore it is not registered
[04.03.2019 15:21:22] Reaper: Pull me the patent of your engines from your databank.
[04.03.2019 15:21:46] Reaper: I want number, date and time of the approval of the patent.
[04.03.2019 15:21:58] 2019-03-04 15:20:13 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:21:58] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: Giving those to a mere civilian who might not even be from Rheinland? Can you imagine my disbelief?
[04.03.2019 15:22:08] Reaper: That's public knowledge.
[04.03.2019 15:22:10] Reaper: All patents are.
[04.03.2019 15:22:14] Reaper: Obviously.
[04.03.2019 15:22:19] 2019-03-04 15:20:33 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:22:19] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: If you refuse to supply us with the information we have to confiscate that engine, so just tell us what we want to know
[04.03.2019 15:22:22] 2019-03-04 15:20:37 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:22:22] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: The rheinland public perhaps
[04.03.2019 15:22:29] Reaper: Oh, but I told you.
[04.03.2019 15:22:35] 2019-03-04 15:20:50 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:22:35] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: certainly not those who might be affiliated with pirates
[04.03.2019 15:22:38] Reaper: Heisenberg research station, it's built there.
[04.03.2019 15:23:01] Reaper: Look, we can do this all day.
[04.03.2019 15:23:10] Reaper: You can pull laws and I can tell you why you can't use them against me.
[04.03.2019 15:23:17] Reaper: I'm absolutely legal and clean.
[04.03.2019 15:23:25] 2019-03-04 15:21:39 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:23:25] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: no you are not.
[04.03.2019 15:23:28] Reaper: Prove it.
[04.03.2019 15:23:38] Reaper: You can't, because as I said, I'm clean.
[04.03.2019 15:24:07] 2019-03-04 15:22:22 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:24:07] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: You are hiding these god damn information you have to pass to us otherwise you are not clean! We need to see the blueprints.
[04.03.2019 15:24:08] Reaper: Civilian ship, border words designs, free for use by the mass. Civilian engines, civilian weapons, civilian seats.
[04.03.2019 15:24:21] 2019-03-04 15:22:35 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:24:21] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: No, its no civilian engine
[04.03.2019 15:24:21] Reaper: Which information have I witheld?
[04.03.2019 15:24:26] Reaper: It's made by civilians.
[04.03.2019 15:24:32] 2019-03-04 15:22:47 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:24:32] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Its a fu... Prototype
[04.03.2019 15:24:45] Reaper: It is?
[04.03.2019 15:24:51] Reaper: You can tell that from way over there?
[04.03.2019 15:25:03] 2019-03-04 15:23:17 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:25:03] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Not approved by any faction to be their product
[04.03.2019 15:25:24] Reaper: And what do you care? Your law can't touch it if it's not pirate-made.
[04.03.2019 15:25:29] Reaper: Which it clearly isnt.
[04.03.2019 15:25:35] 2019-03-04 15:23:49 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:25:35] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Now listen, gute Frau.
[04.03.2019 15:25:45] Tip: Armor Upgrades are permanent items which, when mounted, multiply your ship's base hitpoints. It is an essential item on any ship.
[04.03.2019 15:25:49] Reaper: All ears.
[04.03.2019 15:26:19] MrValerian: Greetings officers
[04.03.2019 15:26:29] 2019-03-04 15:24:44 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:26:29] [RMK]Walter.v.Eisenach: Greetings
[04.03.2019 15:26:48] 2019-03-04 15:25:03 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:26:48] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: You can hand over that engine now, as described in Artikel 2 Pr. 2.2.5.1, pay 10mio SC as fine, Pr 2.2.5.2 -
[04.03.2019 15:26:57] 2019-03-04 15:25:12 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:26:57] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: -and go wherever you want
[04.03.2019 15:27:00] 2019-03-04 15:25:14 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:27:00] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: OR
[04.03.2019 15:27:55] Reaper: let me double check your article again.
[04.03.2019 15:27:56] 2019-03-04 15:26:10 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:27:56] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: You pay the 10mio SC and you will be banned from Rheinland as described in 2.2.5.2
[04.03.2019 15:28:58] Reaper: I'm not in violation of those laws.
[04.03.2019 15:29:17] 2019-03-04 15:27:31 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:29:17] Death: Ashcolt was put out of action by LR-Pegged.Promotion (Gun).
[04.03.2019 15:29:17] Reaper: 2.2.5.1 Is about unmounted illegal equipment.
[04.03.2019 15:29:20] Reaper: I don't have that.
[04.03.2019 15:29:22] Reaper: Obviously.
[04.03.2019 15:29:31] 2019-03-04 15:27:45 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:29:31] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: That Equipment is the Engine
[04.03.2019 15:29:38] Reaper: But it's not unmounted.
[04.03.2019 15:29:46] Reaper: Thus, 2.2.5.2 doesn't really apply here.
[04.03.2019 15:30:05] Reaper: Correction, 2.2.5.1 doesn't apply here.
[04.03.2019 15:30:09] Reaper: Yet you mentioned it?
[04.03.2019 15:30:20] Reaper: As for, 2.2.5.2 my equipment isn't on the list of banned equipment.
[04.03.2019 15:30:25] Reaper: Thus, this doesn't apply either.
[04.03.2019 15:30:29] 2019-03-04 15:28:43 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:30:29] Death: Michal was put out of action by LR-Pegged.Promotion (Gun).
[04.03.2019 15:30:46] 2019-03-04 15:29:00 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:30:46] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Yea, I give you the cance to unmount it now and hand it over, and 2.2.5.2 applies, because the Equipment is not registered in -
[04.03.2019 15:30:50] 2019-03-04 15:29:05 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:30:50] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Rheinland officially
[04.03.2019 15:31:01] 2019-03-04 15:29:16 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:31:01] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: And you refuse to show us the Blueprint
[04.03.2019 15:31:06] Reaper: The engine is built into the ship, this is not a reasonable or realistic way to handle the situation.
[04.03.2019 15:31:29] 2019-03-04 15:29:43 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:31:29] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Oh, I can help you extracting it from the ship.
[04.03.2019 15:31:29] Reaper: Which means it is impossible to comply with it, as it would disintegrate me and my ship in space.
[04.03.2019 15:32:10] Reaper: But you don't have the right to, since it's not listed in your banned equipment list, thus it's legal.
[04.03.2019 15:32:15] Reaper: Or am I wrong?
[04.03.2019 15:32:42] 2019-03-04 15:30:56 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:32:42] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Ye, you are wrong, until you showed us the constructor and these Blueprints
[04.03.2019 15:33:01] 2019-03-04 15:31:15 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:33:01] Death: Michal suffered a self-inflicted catastrophic decompression.
[04.03.2019 15:33:04] Reaper: Now, I am not wrong, because this engine is not a prototype, it's sold in Rheinland and thus it's known to the authorities.
[04.03.2019 15:33:14] Reaper: If they haven't listed it as banned, then it's not banned.
[04.03.2019 15:33:35] Reaper: You cannot simple use the laws to harras people, as it is illegal.
[04.03.2019 15:33:40] 2019-03-04 15:31:54 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:33:40] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: It IS a prototype and if authorities would know about it, It would't be unknown to me.
[04.03.2019 15:33:49] Reaper: It is a mass production engine that's being sold.
[04.03.2019 15:34:02] 2019-03-04 15:32:16 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:34:02] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: I'm not harrassing you. And it's no mass production
[04.03.2019 15:34:05] Reaper: I literally have another one in storage.
[04.03.2019 15:34:17] 2019-03-04 15:32:32 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:34:17] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: I don't see any people flying around with it
[04.03.2019 15:34:31] Reaper: Because it's expensive.
[04.03.2019 15:34:37] Reaper: And people are not rich?
[04.03.2019 15:35:06] Reaper: So, your reason to deem my engine illegal is because people don't fly around with it. Or you haven't seen them?
[04.03.2019 15:35:18] 2019-03-04 15:33:32 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:35:18] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: But Iv'e got enough, you still refuse to pay and leave Rheinland or this piece of foreign Technology to me, right?
[04.03.2019 15:35:18] Reaper: That's is indeed incredibly logic. Solid as granite.
[04.03.2019 15:35:34] Reaper: I'm not paying because I'm not in a violation.
[04.03.2019 15:35:50] Reaper: If you believe you are in the right, I'm sure we'll see eachother in the court of law on Planet New Berlin.
[04.03.2019 15:36:09] Reaper: You are extorting me.
[04.03.2019 15:36:17] Reaper: You are also harrasing me.
[04.03.2019 15:36:21] 2019-03-04 15:34:35 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:36:21] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: You are annoying me
[04.03.2019 15:36:31] Reaper: You're using the laws of the Federal Republic of Rheinland as a shield and mace.
[04.03.2019 15:36:38] Reaper: And you have no right to do so..
[04.03.2019 15:36:44] Reaper: Now can I go, or you have something else to say?
[04.03.2019 15:36:52] /set chattime on
[04.03.2019 15:36:52] OK
[04.03.2019 15:37:05] 2019-03-04 15:35:19 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:37:05] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: At least you'll have to pay 1mio for your more than bad and insulting behavior
[04.03.2019 15:37:15] Reaper: Quote the insult.
[04.03.2019 15:37:32] Reaper: I have not insulted you and I have adressed you with the respect an officer deserves.
[04.03.2019 15:37:39] 2019-03-04 15:35:53 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:37:39] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: You want me to hear the whole aodie logs now?
[04.03.2019 15:37:48] 2019-03-04 15:36:02 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:37:48] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: audio i mean
[04.03.2019 15:37:54] Reaper: I was even worried about your nerves and suggest a different line of work.
[04.03.2019 15:38:01] Reaper: I can listen to it again and again.
[04.03.2019 15:38:05] Reaper: There isn't an insult in there.
[04.03.2019 15:38:11] 2019-03-04 15:36:26 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:38:11] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: That line, personally insulted me.
[04.03.2019 15:38:11] Reaper: The only person who swore was...you.
[04.03.2019 15:38:29] 2019-03-04 15:36:44 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:38:29] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: You just come here,
[04.03.2019 15:38:34] Reaper: I'm sorry but it's not my fault you cannot make a difference from a suggestion and an insult.
[04.03.2019 15:38:58] 2019-03-04 15:37:12 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:38:58] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: You talk to us as we had nothing else to do than discussing with people like you
[04.03.2019 15:38:59] Reaper: That is, if anything, your personal judgement that's involved.
[04.03.2019 15:39:09] Reaper: Wrong, you stopped me.
[04.03.2019 15:39:17] Reaper: I never had the desire or the need to converse with you.
[04.03.2019 15:39:25] 2019-03-04 15:37:40 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:39:25] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: You know the reason why we did
[04.03.2019 15:39:30] 2019-03-04 15:37:44 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:39:30] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: But anyway
[04.03.2019 15:39:42] Reaper: You and your dear coworked officer pulled me over.
[04.03.2019 15:39:50] Reaper: Coworker, I mean.
[04.03.2019 15:40:09] 2019-03-04 15:38:23 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:40:09] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: You even dared to tell a Militaerpilot to go and look for a new job
[04.03.2019 15:40:24] 2019-03-04 15:38:38 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:40:24] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: It seems you don't know anything about the Militaer
[04.03.2019 15:40:27] Reaper: Wrong, I suggest a change of your line of work.
[04.03.2019 15:40:32] Reaper: I did not order to told you to do it.
[04.03.2019 15:40:35] Reaper: I suggest it.
[04.03.2019 15:40:43] Reaper: What you do with that suggestion is entirely up to you.
[04.03.2019 15:40:44] 2019-03-04 15:38:59 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:40:44] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: You don't know how proud we are to fly for our Vaterland
[04.03.2019 15:40:55] 2019-03-04 15:39:10 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:40:55] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: You are something I would call Halunkin
[04.03.2019 15:41:05] Reaper: It's not my business to know that.
[04.03.2019 15:41:08] Reaper: I keep to myself.
[04.03.2019 15:41:15] Reaper: Now, is there anything else you wish to discuss with me?
[04.03.2019 15:41:18] 2019-03-04 15:39:32 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:41:18] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: But anyway you are just stealing my time
[04.03.2019 15:41:19] Reaper: Or am I free to go?
[04.03.2019 15:41:49] 2019-03-04 15:40:02 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:41:49] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: *grumbles* I don't want to see you ever again here in that ship
[04.03.2019 15:42:03] Reaper: Roger that.
[04.03.2019 15:42:05] 2019-03-04 15:40:19 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:42:05] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: Now you can leave to your beloved Omegas
[04.03.2019 15:42:31] 2019-03-04 15:40:45 SMT
[04.03.2019 15:42:31] [RMK]Lt.Lara.Seeler: *grumbles* May the Hessians catch her....
[04.03.2019 15:42:50] Reaper: Oh and uh, do call me if you want me to shut you down in a legal debate again. I would very much enjoy that.
[04.03.2019 15:43:04] 2019-03-04 15:41:18 SMT Traffic control alert: Reaper has requested to dock
I'm sorry for that inrp meeting, it wasn't looking for an excuse to shoot you, i personally did not have that intention, that comm completely got out of hand, I was playing a very choleric char ingame. I realized that situation was bad and tried somehow to save the situation but it even got worse, so we'll prevent something like that in the future
Why not something ... diferent? otherwise it will be just one more group of indies in a faction!! what about ... you guys take the action to your enemies? i mean ... in ww1 and mainly ww2, the most noticeable actions were raiding the enemies!! you could hunt your enemies in their turfs and not waiting for then in your home sector! otherwise ... nothing new!!!