Now I know I've made a thread with a Frigate Overhaul a while ago but now I've been thinking how we could make the Frigate class a bit more special by giving them a role inside Military Factions.
We know that currently it's either 4.2/4.3 ker inside their line (etc. Core, Order, LNS, RM and whatnot) but what if we remove that from them and add max Cargo which a frigate would have.
Imo it would make much more sense for a Military faction to use Frigates, Blockade runners than anyone else. Also this would make Trading factions a little bit more special as the cargo hold would have a propper meaning in here, so you would choose an alternative instead of doing all with one faction.
No more trading ships within factions that are known to have militias, navy, military, army whatever, but Blockade Runners aka Frigates (Ofc you could still trade with those but 3.6k would be the max cargo just like our current Frigates). In terms of cost efficiency you'd choose a trading faction over a military one.
This would make escorting realy interesting as the escorts would also haul cargo along the way. This way you earn some on your way, while your ship has enough firepower etc. to escort trading factions or whatever. Just a thought.
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So far ideas, suggestions that are minimal but vital in my eyes to turn frigates into a multi-purpose transport ship:
- Give Frigates a Repair Tool slot like Repair Ships have
- Add Anomaly Scanners class
- 375 or 400 Cruise Speed
- Light Transport impulse speed of 100 (159 with thrust) is appropriate. Perhaps 169 on some of the lighter Frigates.
Current Frigates or best examples we have in Game:
Thing is currently the only "Frigate" in the game is the Junker Salvage Frigate and it's less of a war ship and more of a Minivan with a few handguns duct taped to the side with strings around the triggers the driver and pull when the car beside him gets too close.
Edit: that being said I'd love to see more frigates if only so we have more diversity in the transports market
I'd suggest that such a thing be started with the creation of two civilian frigates:
A CTE or Renzu frigate with curves and brown textures, and a border worlds frigate with edges and light and dark grey textures. This way, just about any faction can choose a ship that will at least somewhat fit their theme.
Said frigates should be no larger in scale than the salvager; perhaps smaller, in order to make groups of them able to survive capital ships by being able to evade them. If they're too large, then they can be hit too easily. I suggest between 3000 and 3600 cargo capacity for most frigates, but with some perhaps having a capacity as low as 2500. Certain transports such as the Taureau, Behemoth, Big Dragon, and Serenity could possibly have frigate-converted versions created that are far more expensive, and slightly improved in combat effectiveness.
@Vulkhard Muller We also have the Raba. Not to mention considering what the Corvo is now we have good examples.
@TLI-Inferno I like the idea. There are definitely some transports that could be repurposed.
We could've Frigates that lean more on Cargo like Salvager and Raba (3600) but have 7-8 GB Turrets or Frigates that want firepower in sacrificing Cargo like the Corvo (5 GB turrets, Cruiser Power Core, Cruiser Shield to survive a blockade or an ambush, 1800 Cargo).
(05-08-2019, 02:18 AM)TLI-Inferno Wrote: I'd suggest that such a thing be started with the creation of two civilian frigates:
A CTE or Renzu frigate with curves and brown textures, and a border worlds frigate with edges and light and dark grey textures. This way, just about any faction can choose a ship that will at least somewhat fit their theme.
Said frigates should be no larger in scale than the salvager; perhaps smaller, in order to make groups of them able to survive capital ships by being able to evade them. If they're too large, then they can be hit too easily. I suggest between 3000 and 3600 cargo capacity for most frigates, but with some perhaps having a capacity as low as 2500. Certain transports such as the Taureau, Behemoth, Big Dragon, and Serenity could possibly have frigate-converted versions created that are far more expensive, and slightly improved in combat effectiveness.
I like this Idea, I like it a lot. If we are keeping in line with the Sally though, I would like to see an IMG/GMG inspired Mining frigate(s).
(05-08-2019, 03:36 AM)Commissar SnakeLancer™ Wrote: @Vulkhard Muller We also have the Raba. Not to mention considering what the Corvo is now we have good examples.
@TLI-Inferno I like the idea. There are definitely some transports that could be repurposed.
We could've Frigates that lean more on Cargo like Salvager and Raba (3600) but have 7-8 GB Turrets or Frigates that want firepower in sacrificing Cargo like the Corvo (5 GB turrets, Cruiser Power Core, Cruiser Shield to survive a blockade or an ambush, 1800 Cargo).
I always forget the Raba since I cannot fly it as a Junker lol(Really should consider SRping one >_>)
That aside
I didn't think of it like that and you have a good point. Like I said above I could see IMG/GMG/Renzu making a more cargo oriented ship (Even mining capable for IMG/GMG) While Houses might make more combat oriented ones like the Corvo. Capable of ferrying small amounts of cargo but being far more able to defend themselves and others. I'd even argue that done right we could see the return of escorts in a big way.
Bounty hunting would make sense in a Frigate too. To "confiscate" illegal cargo, have more space to "apprehend" criminals or even for smugglers. Bobba Fett and Han Solo style. Or Firefly style. Heck, lots of smugglers/bounty hunters used a big ship in SF movies.
there is also an other shiprole we did not have… a Rocketfrigate… Maybe just a few modyfied Transports able to use 6-8 GB or Cruiser rockets and the powercore to use them… a bit like in reallife, take a Pickup Van glue a big rocketbatterie on it.... TADA!!! your own mobile rocketplattform/Glascannon^^ sure the Corvo or Junkersfrigate would be also great choice for that, Maybe remoded as heavy versions
I know its just a Dream... but i think it would be just logic to have such a ship in fleets and convois for medium longrange backup.
like allways sry for my bad english… hope its possible to decode my message
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(05-08-2019, 04:13 AM)Vulkhard Muller Wrote: I didn't think of it like that and you have a good point. Like I said above I could see IMG/GMG/Renzu making a more cargo oriented ship (Even mining capable for IMG/GMG) While Houses might make more combat oriented ones like the Corvo. Capable of ferrying small amounts of cargo but being far more able to defend themselves and others. I'd even argue that done right we could see the return of escorts in a big way.
Hell yeah, exactly what I was thinking!
(05-08-2019, 08:15 AM)mayu20 Wrote: Bounty hunting would make sense in a Frigate too. To "confiscate" illegal cargo, have more space to "apprehend" criminals or even for smugglers. Bobba Fett and Han Solo style. Or Firefly style. Heck, lots of smugglers/bounty hunters used a big ship in SF movies.
For an escort frigate, I'd like to see something with a mere 1200-1600 cargo, the size of a light gunboat, with an improved 179 m/s thrust, equipped with 4 light gunboat slots, one heavy gunboat slot, a light gunboat power core, and the agility of a gunboat.