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I'll start with the fact that I didn't fully understand what the sanction is all about. And I haven't seen this topic until today, because I don't check forums so often.
But, o-okeh… Here are the facts that can, ahem, justify me:
• I was invited to already existing group by someone (I can't remember) of RM, and Unioner guy was already in there.
• Ships with MND ID can ally with unlawful factions if the situation requires.
• Unioner helped us (until he was shot, eh) with GMG attack.
• Auxesia faction is hostile to MND (it's quite possible to get confused in the heat of the battle), and I have no idea what their relationship with the BDM.
• He behaved completely not as a civilian, as it seems to me, but more like mercenary or representative of private military organization.
• Auxesia pilot attacked our group member, unioner, when he helped us repel the attack of the GMG.
• If auxesian was civil, what did he do in the thick of the battle? Even faction infocard doesn't make it clear that they are civilians!
• If BDM aren't satisfied with unioner in the group, then find the one who invited him, because I didn't.
• I tried to stop (in words, yah) BDM pilot fighting with UN, but all he did is yelled on us.
• I wrote him exactly one phrase, but having understood his RP, I decided not to write to him at all.
• And, of course I can say that I definitely did not shoot on the BDM.
Now about more, hmm, unpleasant things... I don't really want to talk about it, but it all looks just like a provocation. I just can't see anything else in this, ahem, accusation. BDM and Auxesia gentlemen, playing together in one Discord channel. Not a single mention of the other participants of the battle. And cut out of context, convenient only for them, chat logs. It looks like BDM just trying to make us guilty in a situation where we haven't violated the rules and laws.
I hope for your understanding. Yours respectfully, Soul.
Hi all.Rohrkatze here.
Me and my friends know the rules. We NEVER inviting unlawfuls to our goup,even if they are on our side,but ID allowing it. We are already entered the group by invite if i remember from ofic RM to defend Frankfurt from GMG. And somebody invited Unioner to group to defend Frankfurt from GMG.
Please,check the logs who invited Unioner in group. I think this is provocation.
Next,we are never will open fire in ofic faction of Rheinland. Even if they will find reason or no reason to kill us. There is no sense.
Next,our targets was GMG and when after GMG auxesia opened fire on Unioner(which was in our group and helped us against GMG),we decided that auxesia helping GMG. They are hostile to us,which not means neutral.
I wrote to local chat "cease fire",to notice BDM that Unioner helped us against GMG agression to defend Rheinland. BDM ignored us,but we not opened fire on him,because this is his business.
Auxesia not belong to Rheinland or to civilian ships which is lost. He came to battle on a specialized fighter and opened fire on a member from group,which is defending Rheinland in this moment,when battle was hot.
I repeat,we never shooting BDM,RM or etc. even if they shooting us by their reasons. And defend Unioner against BDM - no reason for us.
Please check the video and you will see,that target was auxesia which came in battle Rheinalnd vs GMG and started to shot one of our member group. And they was together on discord (BDM with Auxesia),whats the problem to log another BDM char for fight?
This is simple provocation. And nobody talking about ofic RM in our group, did they shot BDM,eh?
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Gentlemen, this is not a sanction. This is an adjustment of reputation, requested under faction right #5. You have not broken any rules. If you wish to fix this, I suggest the usage of in role play messages to the BDM.
Ah, I see... To be honest, I have no idea what is "faction right requests" (but this is my problem, yah). And, meh... I personally have absolutely no desire to roleplay with these people. It still looks to me like they got together and decided just to "teach these dayum lolwut-indies a lesson". Hmph...
Anyway, thanks for the clarification, Implosion. Signing out.
Im protesting. Sorry,but me\we didnt BROKE any of rules. why we will have red reputation now?
Red,that means that we did something bad or broke the rules.
We didnt shoot the BDM,we shoot the auxesia which is only friend(i think) in real life of BDM player and played with him in discord. Is this broking the rules of RP game,to kill his friend in discord? Seriosly,even if in RP,i dont see any reasons to give red reputation in this situation.
Is Auxesia allied with BDM? To have a reason to give us red reputation or what?
He is civilian which entering the battle of defending Rheinalnd with GMG and attacking on his CIVILIAN FIGHTER member from our group in time,when we fighting with GMG.
And this is RP server? He (BDM) just sanctined us because we attacked fighter (his friend on discord) which is not allied with BDM which entered big battle with red reputation to MND\RM in the starting of game.
IFF - this is the basis of the RP game,which showing to player who is friend,neutral or unfrendly\enemy player.
I think BDM just violated RP rules to protect his friend not in RP. The civilian was not a trader or liner or something else. As i sow unioner not attacked Auxesia. He (BDM) used his faction position to broke our reputation because he want it. Because we shooted his friend in ooRP.
Something not changing after 6 years. Thats sad.
In RP we much more friends to BDM than some unknow auxesia. WE are defending rheinland and we are military players which allied with him,and he is giving us red reputation because we attacked his friend in ooRP.
The end result is that an IFF is not always the telltale sign of who is your friend and who is your enemy. Our IFF was created from recycling one of the many Guard IFFs (I'm sure you remember the RM Guard stuff) into a new faction or something more useful when Guard things were being filtered out en mass. The incident here involved your vessel openly assisting an unlawful (The Unioner UN|) against what is a friendly/civilian asset in Rheinland. As a lawful, this is not only bad but considered illegal and against protocol by many factions. The current political climate in Rheinland is weird, and I'd recommend you read up on recent events to better understand the circumstances which you've now found yourself in.
I hope this helps clarify things for you. This is not a rule violation but consequences following the actions taken in-game against a civilian and friendly force.
Oh well. What we have now?
IFF - is the BASIS of ROLEPLAY game. Green = friend. White = neutral. Red = enemy\unfriendly.
If the Red = friend,who is green? This will broke all the game. I sow this stupid story with guard,as the result - they are not avaliable now.
Then,the GAME is ROLEPLAY. This is not FORUMLANCER\not discoverygclancer. All what you DOING on a forum MUST BE DUBLICATED in game as result in IFF.
If Auxesia is friend for military or MND now,why we still have RED reputation? do it neutral or green.
If reputation NOT WORKING in game - then delete this IFF system of reputation in game. Left just tag and name.
And every time when i will see the player - i will go to FORUM and will search his name to know is he enemy for me or not. THATS COOL.
I see that online of 5 players.
If you (devs) moving reputation of indie players to red in 1 night is it so hard to move reputation in game from red to neutral to green BECAUSE you have forum basis for it?
All your relationship on forum must be reflected in reputation status of all players of factions which is playing in. Why,as an MND player i should play in forumlancer,becides im playing in freelancer?
All your relationships must copied to factions\players IFF. And this is not our problem,that you not changed this.
forumlancer again,eh.
Red not enemy,green - not friend,where this goes to?
To crossfire? Where only 4 ID - trader\pirate\bounty hunet\policemilitary. IFF means nothing.
I have been run from this game because this is chaos.
If you will try to do,that IFF means nothing - you will kill the game.
If you want to do some restrictions with some bases or zones to players - just do restricted access,dont do the red IFF. Just restricted access,thats all.
And please,dont do the forumlancer. or you will loose 2\3 of players. Beleave me. Im the one,who do the online on server from 110 to 225. im gone with my team at least 30 players becuase that forum lancer and many fatal mistaces broked the game.
Dont do that again. Im coming back with at least 20 players. And a lot player will come soon. If you will broke the basis of game - you will have again 15 players online.
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I understand you are cross, but again, this is not a sanction. As you said, this is a roleplay server. Some level of rp and knowledge of events is expected. Otherwise this happens. You can easily fix this with some roleplay. Be it on the forums or ingame.