(10-28-2019, 01:27 PM)Riehl Wrote: I'd adore a consolidated AI faction. The lack of common direction is what is stalling me from playing AI right now, and I have a 7 IRL years year old continuously played AI character that I'd love to use.
I've written AI lore for 3 previous AI OFLs, each with wildly different takes on the subject. let me know if you'd like a hand. Generally emotional, wetwear AIs have more staying power than clunky, automaton-esque AI, and have more compelling RP.
The crutch of all previous AI groups was that they were hyperconstrictive without any attention paid to the beguiling mystique elements that make non-human sentience so intriguing. We should treat AI like a compelling original culture with diversity and multiplicity of personhood with strong inspiration from advanced machine learning concepts and the litany of literature addressing non-human societies.
It takes an extremely determined imagination to make compelling aliens from scratch.
See: Nomads in discovery.
Cylons in Battlestar Galactica.
Drej in Titan AE (which is a very Freelancer-esque universe).
Kzinthi in the Man-Kizin wars.
Pop me a DM with your Discord. In the meantime I'll make sure to contact you when I have time. Maybe you can offer extra ideas if anything
The goal of this tread is it to find an OoRP-Consense with that we can create an InRP-Story and a faction.
And a Question: How many owner, aministrator, Lords, … does we have for Outpost Primus & Secundus?
And i use myself a civil war in the AI for the Background of "my" AI's, and that Planet Gammu and the Outposts are not the best Friends is something that i see in many backgrounds...
(10-29-2019, 09:16 AM)Radick Wrote: The goal of this tread is it to find an OoRP-Consense with that we can create an InRP-Story and a faction.
And a Question: How many owner, aministrator, Lords, … does we have for Outpost Primus & Secundus?
If you really want, you can have Outpost Secundus, but Primus Outpost is prone to be used by Amalgams, so I don't know how it will all tie up with "peaceful sentient AIs"
(10-29-2019, 09:16 AM)Radick Wrote: The goal of this tread is it to find an OoRP-Consense with that we can create an InRP-Story and a faction.
And a Question: How many owner, aministrator, Lords, … does we have for Outpost Primus & Secundus?
If you really want, you can have Outpost Secundus, but Primus Outpost is prone to be used by Amalgams, so I don't know how it will all tie up with "peaceful sentient AIs"
So, so we have (at least and without me) two of them...
(10-29-2019, 09:16 AM)Radick Wrote: The goal of this tread is it to find an OoRP-Consense with that we can create an InRP-Story and a faction.
And a Question: How many owner, aministrator, Lords, … does we have for Outpost Primus & Secundus?
If you really want, you can have Outpost Secundus, but Primus Outpost is prone to be used by Amalgams, so I don't know how it will all tie up with "peaceful sentient AIs"
So, so we have (at least and without me) two of them...
If I get what you're saying- you refer to how many mainframes are within Gammu AI. The answer is three. In total. We can discuss more about that when I get the Amalgam server going on Discord. Should be finished soon (even though I prefer using Skype but meh)
(10-29-2019, 09:16 AM)Radick Wrote: The goal of this tread is it to find an OoRP-Consense with that we can create an InRP-Story and a faction.
It's almost as if this was the main purpose of the Collective and a point that our story really hammered in. It's almost as if that the freedom of being an AI was being the roleplay any which way you choose, and our story confirmed, enabled, and explained it. I'm guessing you either don't care or didn't read it, but it explained how so many variations of AI existed without forcing our own way of rp'ing on other people. We were the first AI faction to actually do this, for reference.
by the way, count me in.
And I'm seeing AI, well in different ways, that would depend on which idea would be shared the most.
But personally I like Geth. after many fanfics about Mass Effect, still thinking that they are misunderstood machines, which we willing to serve their masters, and attacked them only because they started to fear them, because Geth started to show intelligence beyond their programming, questioning philosophic problems.
Robots from Futurama also "servitors".
Well, another way for machines of course to be genocidic maniacs. Like Dominators from Space Rangers, or Skynet or Repears from ME. In every case genocidic machine has some idea, some reason of their actions. Something which they misunderstood for good course of actions. And having no morales, it was very usually most rational way. (Also remembering Replicators from Star Gate, or Borgs from Star Trek).
Concluding, they have some sort of obsession. Assimilate, Destroy, or Research by desintegration or something like that.
Third and last option would be to have a more neutral oriented machine society. Hmm, not sure about this case, who remembers some examples? What would be their goals?
I guess they could be some kind of watchers
or ancient machines which were left by some dying civilisation, and are still trying to complete last order.
Personally I like the idea of writers from my country. Popular sort of stories, when died human, wakes up in a different body in a different universe. Some of them start as robots, or computer of spaceship. Their goal is usually to survive in a society where robots are forbidden. Masking themselves, accumulating fleet, building machine civilization.
I remember a story which I think I like the best about machine civilizations. There was a scientist who made possible human-to-computer converting. He converted himself, but twenty-first-century society was obviously not ready for him. He had at the same time Schizophrenia, which tried to eliminate society, because of it he became Wanted #1. He escaped into space and started to build machine civilization, researching, building, and e.t.c. But aliens have been contacted too, and they feared any AI civilization because very advanced another AI destroys any ship trying to enter hyperspace.
P.S. Gammu AI are currently forbidden in Liberty Space, and it would be nice to change.
(10-31-2019, 01:52 PM)darkwind Wrote: "Well, another way for machines of course to be genocidic maniacs. Like Dominators from Space Rangers, or Skynet or Repears from ME. In every case genocidic machine has some idea, some reason of their actions. Something which they misunderstood for good course of actions. And having no morales, it was very usually most rational way. (Also remembering Replicators from Star Gate, or Borgs from Star Trek).
Concluding, they have some sort of obsession. Assimilate, Destroy, or Research by desintegration or something like that."
If u really wanted a single AI faction, or multiple under the general AI ingame, it can be done. In my view, u would have to remove the idea of having a set way the AI should act or behave. But rather see it like this:
NPC AI could be drones or something.
AI regions and all AI factions as an AI house even though it's not.
But doing so allows u to break that up.
Like a house u have u lawfuls, with corps an a law enforcement etc and your unlawfuls (maybe rebels or independent)
This will allow the various AI factions to play how they see their AI faction.
U want AI that wants to be hostile, focus them on being ur military
You want AI to be warming to humans, let that be ur research or ur intelligence agency
You want ur AI to be venture around Sirius, be a trader faction.
Ideally you want all ur AI factions/leaders to sit down and discuss this through. Have ur individual factions, but assign responsibility. Won't limit u on which faction can fight or have warships, but can give them a focal point. When it comes to research etc, either one does it with everyone's help (but may not have the effect you want, or break the project up so each faction can use the basic idea but change it where it suits them.
It would be nice from a RS view to interact with AI. AI forming a house or unified space.