I fail to imagine how Sprague's infrastructure can handle 3.4 billion (the equivalent of Cambridge for example) people considering it likely wasn't planned to host that many and it was only a decade anyway to do so anyway. Dumping billions of people apparently into the middle of nowhere equals killing at least half of them. Sprague makes very little sense, considering there are other houses to flee or to Bretonia planets where infrastructure actually exists.
Houses spent centuries building infrastructure on planets that host billions. Here it happened instantly. Bretonia expansion to omegas is cool and I like the concept. But Sprague is probably the worst implementation of the whole thing.
This is too much even for grotesque universe freelancer is. It still has some rules and basic parameters set that you operate with. Making a complete planet with nothing into a multi-billion planet literally overnight is an overkill.
Before someone brings hospitals on Earth being built for a few weeks, it's mostly because you have factories, food production, medical facilities, housing, and everything is in likely a few hundred km away, not in another solar system with the not very secured route to it. Earth has said infrastructure already, and so other proper planets that refugees would likely run to. In Bretonia it's currently New London and Cambridge, I think it would be cool if some Bretonian refugees went to other Houses too.
Infrastructure projects are usually the most expensive investments, which I doubt Bretonia made, considering their main industrial hub (Leeds) was captured and everything went on the war effort. And later Leeds was just destroyed.
The solution is to obviously spread this population among some planets in Bretonia, Rheinland, and Liberty. It would make sense for some refugee population from other Bretonian planets to move into other Houses, it's weird that they are being tightly contained in Bretonia, not like they can bring any profit to Bretonian government in such amounts, but leech funding. I think a realistic number of the population would be on pair with Yuma or Gran Canaria with steady colonization and an increase of it to a greater number.
Now with Durandal gone, I hope we can fix weird things as opposed of them being forced.
Sprague is one of the worst planets for mass settlement.
DIAMETER: 7,053 km.
MASS: 10.98 x 10e23 kg.
TERRAIN: Desert.
TEMPERATURE: -71°C to 70°C
Come on, Sprague is a rock desert with highly decreased gravity and seriously high temperature amplitude. I can't imagine, how even thousands of people could make camping on the land.
I do agree that Sprague is actually a terrible policy for the resettling of displaced people. Many of the rumors offered by citizens on the planet, which you can freely read from the bar, are distinctly negative, with some being quite drastic. BMM's moral duplicity aside, it would make more sense if refugees were amassed on the midpoint of planet Cambridge, much to the chagrin of the local aristocrats. I suggest Cambridge because Cambridge is the closest colony to both Sprague and Canaria, but Canaria is presently not an option for mass resettlement because of the lack of gate/lane infrastructure at the moment.
Throwing 3 billion people onto Sprague is just asking for a full-scale revolt, especially with BMM putting the residential sites near active volcanic sites, or not properly sealing the subterranean habitats, resulting in flooding, this and the blackouts would quickly urge 3 billion people to become 3 billion dissidents. Giving them temporary accommodations on Cambridge and then filtering the refugees to either of the two resettlement sites, when possible, is more rational and effective than the current approach which seems more akin to "dumping" rather than resettling.
(06-10-2020, 08:59 AM)Shiki Wrote: With minus 70 in refugee camp is assured death within one night. People fall asleep and never wake up.
Yes, hence my suggestion of having them be held on Cambridge and then relocated when appropriate residential sites are finished to house them. EDIT: Putting people on the surface of Sprague without proper shelter is certain death, I have to assume sealed habitats are being used, but with such a large population I can't imagine them all being properly housed. I think it would make more sense if only a few million people were settled on Sprague at the moment, with the billions of other people transferred over to Cambridge.
Story is looking at this thread and will respond to the points made herein. Also there are players that have been RPing the colonization of Sprague quite extensively since 2012, and will likely bring insight and share some of the RP made for reading.
I will say that the infocard describing the population was decided by story a couple months ago and I implemented it. The old infocard stated 1 million, but it has stated 1 million since 2012, so an update was needed. Also, the 3.4 billion was drawn from Leeds escapees. People "reasigned" from Leeds are based on the difference between 15.6 billion and 6 billion on the Leeds card. Which is to say, there was just under 10 billion Leeds population that had to be put somewhere; some went to NL, some went to Cambridge, some went to Sprague, some were designated as "Refugees" (see the current Cambridge/NL cards) which are planned to be settled on either Harris or Exeter (so its kind of like an RP focus for Bretonian players), and finally, some went to Liberty, Rheinland and of course Enclave took a considerable amount (annoyingly story hasnt given a number on how many of the people on Gaia are Leeds "serfs").
It is a bit complicated, but then again killing a planet made for a complicated situation.
EDIT: I dont mean to say that the argument presented by Shiki/Reeves is invalid, and Story will look at population again; but that being said there is a counter position.
you do know it's not -70 degrees on the entire night-side of the planet, right? That beside, people can be creative, like yes, it's mostly one big-arse refugee camp, but it's also happens to have a freeport, and vital trade artery to Bretonia right next door.
Why not on Cambridge? I think that bretonian upper class is highly elitist, and it's already ang agri-planet for the most part. They simply don't want filthy disgusting refugees on their land.
On a final note, that many people don't live in tents, probably. I mean modern day concrete printed and modular houses exist, and if all else fails, shipping containers could be repurposed. Personally I've RP'd it as a gigantic shanty town