Before we begin there is something that some members won't understand in game development logic and that I need to drop a basic concept of. Certain gains or losses when it comes to solar objects in-game that represent faction presence usually being resolved in a few ways.
1. Faction A forces fight the forces of faction B. Depending on certain parameters, either winning or losing side may have consequences on the outcome. From complete destruction to no damage at all.
2. Faction A is gaining something without confronting faction B, faction A losses some ground to faction B or faction C elsewhere.
3. Rare cases of faction A is dramatically underrepresented. In this case assets may be added in order to represent the faction properly.
When we will look at the case of the sudden flip of the ownership:
- Changed: Battleship MacDuff moved from Nottingham to Planet Harris, Tau-31
(Player Request) - Changed: Planet Harris, Tau-31 has changed from CR to BPA. [1]
It falls under neither of those cases. As far as I am aware there was the request from CR official faction regarding this, but this is where our story/Infocard teams come into play. As we all know after Leeds disaster Bretonia is prioritizing colonization of Omega border worlds, investing a lot of military and economic resources into the region. There are two planets in different directions that are under the process of active colonization and Bretonia has efficiently taken control over those systems. Which is fine. Bretonia is overpowering local giant unlawful and quasi-legal factions with the commitment of the whole House.
What is not fine when we will look up into the "northern" direction. When you think of Leeds, where everything Bretonian was simply destroyed, you could imagine it has a lot of things, but heavy Bretonian lawful presence, considering prioritization of the Omegas. However, in fact, the system got nothing BUT Bretonian lawful presence. Durham Outpost which is the Bowex base being magically teleported there and the whole Bretonian fleet that is represented with Battleship Grimsby. That's pretty much it. The system got nothing else, it did not become the arena for various unlawful groups to try and take advantage in the Bretonian border world. Yet another very weird oversight by the development team that by accident happens to favor Bretonia greatly.
It does not end on Leeds, as apparently Bretonia has managed to throw another fleet represented by Battleship Macduff into the system beyond Bretonian borders and BAF ZOI and take over the planet, head it over to BPA, which also has no ZOI in the system. The battleship was taken from Omega-3 apparently, which is the highest priority system for colonization and economic development. And Bretonia was not affected by ANY consequences. Bretonia just happened to take one of the stratic points in the whole region, one of the very few planets that is suited for colonization and lost nothing. Literally nothing.
That would be pretty much the equivalent of the Bretonian portion of Dublin that could be lost to Mollys, for example. if not more, considering Leeds being simply the border world that is fully under lawful control. Even Liberty when committed efforts against Gallia has lost some ground to unlawful in Bering. Bretonia is not yet affected by the same logic as other Houses and did not lose anything at all, quit expected something considerable losses of actually valuable assets. It's able to push in three directions at once, even the northern one that is not much spoken about and not being played a lot by the actual players. Another oversight by the development team that once again is favoring Bretonia exclusively.
I am, of course, very far from the wild thought that there's some conspiracy by certain Bretonian players and certain developers, to an extent where you can draw the line, of course, to bypass recently imposed ZOI restrictions[2].
With Sprague being turned into the equivalent of Cambridge population-wise [3], and it becomes on the line with the planets like Denver, so Liberty players could understand. I can't help by wonder what is going on. There is naturally no place for the community-made meme of Devtonia of 2018, that followed infamous Devfire Legion.
Solutions that make come along with this, in my opinion, are the following:
1. Heavy, overwhelming unlawful presence in Leeds, it means to be an actual border world.
2. Even if kept, Bretonian ownership in Harris is to be transferred to Planetform. The planet is not yet terraformed. BPA and BAF should not have any presence outside of Bretonia lawful ZOI.
3. If Bretonian presence in Tau-31 is kept, Bretonia has to lose ground in systems that are currently not in military priority. Dublin and Mollys seem like the best option.
4. The best, option if for Bretonia to keep on its priorities in Omegas and pull back. There are two planets to colonize already. Harris could be considered not worth investment and left to some neutral party in the region if CR doesn't seem to want to keep it. IMG could fit just in, maybe Zoners, factions that have lost ground to Bretonia in previous updates.
I hope that the quality of the story development improves and existing goofs being fixed as opposed to be forced, as well see massive improvements on Balance and Art departments.
Imagine Bretonia claims a planet so CR officially gives them that planet to shut their mouth and Bretonia turns back most of its attention to their Omega efforts. In the meanwhile the rest of the Tau factions, CR, IMG, NO, Zoners, slowly migrate to and populate the planet (as much as a barely terraformed planet can be populated), and eventually Bretonia ends up having military/police control and authority over a culturally foreign planet. Once they start to care about Harris more, what do you think how long they can hold and do anything they want with it? Mind that iirc it doesn't have as much BAF forces watching over it as GranCan does.
I dont have exact documents, but fleet that is meant for Gran Canaria is represented with Battleship Ark Royal and its still in Poole. So I think Tau-31 at the moment is probably likely having greater BAF forces there with Battleship MacDuff that redeployed instantly from Omega 3. And thats part of the problem.
(06-12-2020, 11:06 AM)Shiki Wrote: I dont have exact documents, but fleet that is meant for Gran Canaria is represented with Battleship Ark Royal and its still in Poole. So I think Tau-31 at the moment is probably likely having greater BAF forces there with Battleship MacDuff that redeployed instantly from Omega 3. And thats part of the problem.
So you want us to patch the game every day or even less just to simulate a fleet moving? And fleets are stretched paper thin whilst Bretonia is rebuilding so you know... RP harassment of the logistics or something. CR were our allied ofc this would occur. They wouldn't strong arm Bretonia and instantly start another war against Bretonia and Liberty. You know how crushed CR would be by Liberty? Dude the war has ended this is happening. This is how wars end. The victors get their things back and more. If they can hold on to it is for the future to tell but as for now. This is the result of the war ending.
Edit: We don't even have a good hold of leeds we're just protecting our lanes to Harris for our refugees.
Bretgov has plans with Harris that I am not at liberty to reveal yet. But we must first finish with the elections, having in mind that the departure of the Steiners into the shadows has made a power vacuum.
@Hubjump
There actually were plans on the CR-Bretonia war for Harris, and Liberty was to side with CR on this one. That would be dumb, but what happens with Harris right now is not much better.
As for the other things, Bretonia claiming victory in war single handly is not the best way to approach the end of the war. This is a topic for yet ANOTHER thread. Right, Bretonia is gaining south systems to compensate for the losses in the north already, planet to populate and a number of shipyards to compensate for the loss of Southampton. Bretonian shipyards rather fall under the C category of OP post.
But throwing police planets and fleets outside of ZOI through your hard border, which is Leeds for Bretonia is very questionable. I hope the devs will eventually come here and answer what's up and why Bretonia is not focusing on their strategic expansion to the south. Along with the very weird absence of content to whatever moves Bretonia makes in the north, quit "trading" at this point.
Harris is one of the showcasing things, alongside the Sprague population issue. I intentionally do not bring up stuff like Aland. Though the story team did not change a lot since the time of Durandal, they usually deny responsibility for those. Alright. So we only talk about recent patches.
I can also confirm vaguely that the story team has plans to address in both the shorter and longer terms the frankly horrible way the Gallic War "ended" and the way it was presented as such in western Sirius.
I'm not part of the story team so I can't gold-text that but... yeah. Trust me. It's not falling on deaf ears.
(06-12-2020, 11:50 AM)Hubjump Wrote: Dude the war has ended this is happening. This is how wars end. The victors get their things back and more. If they can hold on to it is for the future to tell but as for now. This is the result of the war ending.
There is no winner in war. There is one who has lost less the civilian population.
(06-12-2020, 11:50 AM)Hubjump Wrote: Dude the war has ended this is happening. This is how wars end. The victors get their things back and more. If they can hold on to it is for the future to tell but as for now. This is the result of the war ending.
There is no winner in war. There is one who has lost less the civilian population.