Many people have commented or made statements about HF's hounor.....I am here to say that HF is one of the best factions out there,And also i am here to say that it is not unfair to call in reinforcements when your mates are in jepordy.Many people (who i will not take the liberty to name)have said that we are without hounor because we fight in large groups like normal faction members would do.I do not take kindly to these kinds of remarks and neither i am guesing does Tank,our glorious leader.So,I am saying this because i want these remarks to stop:nono: because not only does it make there faction look bad but also it is very untrue. [HF]Supernova.
DarkStar here, sorry to break your oh-so-precious bubble about the "honorable" HF, but you are wrong. The HF are honorless dogs who are worthy only of extinction.
First offence, they gave us their word they would break the alliance with the AW. As soon as I left, they rescended the order and maintained the alliance.
Second, one of their battleships left the other to die. Not very honorable, don't you think?
Third, the constant fleeing in terror like scared little girls, and then comming back, was a little annoying.
Fourth, somehow they got their hands on huge numbers of battleships, because we destroyed both battleships several times, and they kept comming back. More then three times, I'm sure.
Fifth, use of Marsflyer shields on their fighters is highly disturbing, not to mention quite irritating for several people.
Sixth, may I point out the events in Honshu? With the KSP? I think that speaks for itself.
Seventh... Need I go on?
In short, the HF are, in fact, honorless dogs who deserve nothing but extermination.
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This is the real true story of rock and roll; it was not about anything more then, how to live your life, as a gangster, in sartorial splendor, and turning the world into a place where normality would never return again...- Malcolm McLaren
Much like the Hellbound of the Phantoms, who would rather slam itself, an Osiris battleship, into Omicron Theta's sun rather than face AW's Ableben. Who have also fled before in like-situations.
Or like the RM, who made dangerous planetary entries that ended up destroying their ships, rather than continue to fight a few pirate ships, one of which was highly under-equipped. Much like the "Fleeing in terror" of the HF? Or the use of massive amounts of bots and batts after complaining about it publicly, when finally faced by a force skilled enough to defeat them?
Shall I go on?
(Stop with the insults everyone. The Phantoms and RM have done bad things just like the HF. And the RM are even VETERANS of the server, unlike HF, and should be expected to act better. Stop being hypocrites. Until you yourself don't do something, don't bash others for doing it. Phantoms and RM have all run before, and constantly come back. As have RM. Phantoms have used equipment you might consider "unfair," and tactics you would describe as petty and pathetic. You flame them for insulting, then turn around and pick at their flaws and insult their characteristics. STOP with the flaming, the insulting, the bashing, EVERYTHING. Your not perfect either Kane, and neither are your factions. Everyone has flaws, and in today's events, RM have done quite poorly, while HF boldly fought in an outnumbered fight to help the Wraiths and NovaPG. YOU ran, YOU fled, YOU used "unfair" tactics. HF stood and fought honorably today, and I won't stand by while you insult them like hypocrites.)
Much like the Hellbound of the Phantoms, who would rather slam itself, an Osiris battleship, into Omicron Theta's sun rather than face AW's Ableben. Who have also fled before in like-situations.
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The HELLBOUND was NOT going fight you... I AM NOT ALLOWED. Also, I wanted to go back to Delta to get guns for my RM battleship, which is where I had just come from. Planet dive is faster than flying, right? I was not fleeing, you can ask Kane AND Zuke, I wanted to go back to DELTA. FREEPORT 11 TO BE EXACT.
May I point out to you, Dab you silly man, that I was In-Character when I posted that? Of course DarkStar would say that! He -does- think he's perfect, he -does- think the Phantoms have no faults, and nothing at all will change his mind.
And since YOU began this flame, I shall continue in the vein you pulled out.
YOU may not have had lag, but for some reason by popular comment in the RM group, you three were jumping all over the place like we were in DBZ or something.
Hotblack AND Ragnarock had Marsflyer shields, which (test this yourself, why don't you?) is horribly more powerful then any other fighter shield in the game.
And what was the NovaPG doing in Rheinland anyway? NovaPG are Blood Dragons, people who have no relation to Rheinland in any way. Ex-Hessians be d*mned, if they realy -are- ex-Hessians would be getting shot at by EVERYONE, Bundschuh, Hessians, Unioners, not to mention the Rheinland lawful forces.
In fact, what were Hackers doing in Rheinland? Hackers are Liberty/Bretonia, NOT Rheinland!
And the reason we all suicided is because we were tired of fighting. It was annoying, irritating, and we had not died, so just about all of our stuff was still exhausted. Out of nowhere, all THREE of you show up again and just home right in and begin with the attack. We killed you once before, what would be the point in killing you again? And in my case, the fight was horrificly expensive anyway.
This is the real true story of rock and roll; it was not about anything more then, how to live your life, as a gangster, in sartorial splendor, and turning the world into a place where normality would never return again...- Malcolm McLaren
Okay first....Supernova thank you for backing my Honor which I am trying to keep and do what I can to maintain.... And as for Kane awesome fight...You did incredible and it was fun, but still using bots and bats when I have a tizy turret as my only weapon besides a swarm is kinda wierd but then hey I did too so no hard feelings. And as to what i was doing, earlier today I was headed through rheinland (updating nav map) I ran into a CUFF and attacked and never left. And Dab said he was gonna harass and terrorize Rm so I wanted to watch and when he asked for help I could not deny him. (never used my Nepthys before in combat).
And as for all this flaming over something so simple as one of my friends defending my honor is kinda silly.... And Kane is perfectly in rp calling HF honorless he's a phantom why wouldn't he say that he is devoted to the destruction of the human race....
God you know what I do not give a damn what people think of me anymore if this happens when someone defends me... Thank you super Really thank you, I am glad to hear someone likes me around here....
And Dab you are a friend but please do not flame if someone is being childish and calls names then be better than them. But thank you for flaming on my behalf....
And again to all RM involved in the massive brawl that was one hell of a fight and you all could teach me a thing or too about dogfighting. Tank out.......
Dab...what are these unfair tactics you speak of? There is a difference in running to run and running to recharge your shields and coming back. You were not present at the last HF/Phantom confrontation so you don't know what happened. I, for one, have never ran from a fight only to return minutes later.
We've already had this run around so many times before. As for Hellbound and every other thing you attack people about.....Do not jump to conclusions!!!!!!!!!! Stop assuming things!!!!!!! If you don't know the whole damn story, then wait until you do or drop it!!!!!! You're first sentence in your second paragraph was 'Stop with the insults', yet the paragraph that follows is nothing but insulting. You have to have the last word, all the time, every time. And i'm sure you'll have a comeback for this. Good thing i'm putting you on my ignore list :angry2:
If you will look, the 5th line of Kane's post was decidedly from the RM perspective. As DARKSTAR, he was saying things about HF's use of Marsflyer shields at New Berlin, and that the RM were "quite irritated." Sorry Kane/Darkstar but I believe the only mind-readers at the moment are Luciaden and Raf'el.
THAT is what triggered my OOC flame of it. THAT is what caused me to post any flaming about it. If your going to be Darkstar, be Darkstar and don't give me any lines of how Darkstar "found out about it."
Kane, I never said I didn't have lag, the NPCs were jumping all over the place. In fact Virus and I had to stop for 20 seconds because yellow lag had each other jumping, as Virus put it, like Gazelles.
And so I don't flame these are the only things I'm saying, along with this; Player factions cannot be restricted to their NPC alignment's area of influence. Korrd said this when Wolfpack had problems with Wraith attacking his faction's traders. Wraiths are aligned to Bundschuh, but they can't be restricted to Rheinland only. Wraiths can pirate in Kusari, Bretonia, Omicrons, Sigmas. Thus, Lane Hacker-aligned factions can pirate and attack lawfuls in Rheinland. As can Blood Dragon-aligned. And you didn't seem to mind when a GC came around and helped you guys out in Rheinland with the ICE and Zypher situation.
EDIT: Caylith posted while I was writing. Just so you know, this is NOT a 'comeback' to what she said. Oh, and to answer your question about the unfair tactics comment. That was because alot of people have been complaining about the use of bots and batts, including some of the RM, and then RM does it after bashing the HF for it. thats why I had it in " ". Again, JUST answering the question, not flaming anyone. You don't want to the answer, don't ask.;)
hmm, well id say that u cant just lump the HF, or any faction, in one category. what all the members do, what the faction leader/s say to do, and what actually happens affect this.
the HF were dishonourable with us when they sided with the Helghast, when they should have really stayed out of the whole thing.
but they were honourable when they came back afterwards and tried to kiss and make up.
so really, you cant say one or the other, not for anyone, unless they're really obviously not doing what society deems to be "honourable" at that time.
i dont really care what tactics people use in combat, as long as they follow server rules. bots/bats are there to be used, but if both people agree not to use em, thats fine too. whatever floats ur boat people.
and as for shield running, same thing i said above.