In my opinion, on the subject of B/S, the shield is fine, slow re-gen makes up for the sheer size of the shield. But what I do think is needed is a higher cruise speed, they cant thrust, and they cruise at the same speed, surely a B/S with a big engine like that would exert enough power in the 0 friction of space to propel itself much faster than any fighter. This would avoid the problem of trade lanes, and not being able to get anywhere fast. Any idea's?
Dab,Feb 21 2006, 01:23 AM Wrote:Virus is right. I saw you fight Titus the other day. He was a Eagle you were a RH Bomber. You didn't even use torps or missiles and beat him. That is never supposed to happen. The bomber should have just enough to barely dodge things but it should be the agility of the Sabre. We would just put an extra torp and another gun on the Sabre if we wanted a bomber that agile. The bomber should be about what the titan was before we upgraded the agility on it. So about a dromadary's agility, maybe a bretonian freighters.
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You forgot to mention 2 things about that battle:
1. It took me arround 30 minutes to take him down. And you know that. All you did was complaining that "the battle was taking too long". And saying that "you would defeat him in less than a fraction of the time it took me". And when you fight him, he destroyed you in what? 3-4 minutes?
2. Had i fought in the way you do (that is, like a dogfight between 2 combat jets, where the most maneuverable is allways at the tail of the less maneuverable one), i would have lost in less than 5 minutes. Why? Because the eagle is twice as maneuverable than the RH Bomber. In fact, every fighther is more maneuverable. And the "tail" tactic does not works when used from a RH Bomber.
The tactic i used was:
Thrust against the enemy, throw him whatever i got, and run in the opposite direction of the enemy craft, to take distance and have time to turn. Then i repeat the maneuver. Engine kill is crucial to perform that maneuver, because you need to keep running away from the enemy while you turn.
So, i wasnt using the maneuverability of my ship against him. I was using my superior strength and firepower against the Eagle. I knew that he had not enough firepower to take me down in a frontal attack. Thats why i used the Attack Pattern "Slide" against him insted of going for his tail.
Thats why i think that the RH bomber maneuverability is Ok. Because trying to outmaneuver a fighter in a RH bomber is not possible.
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I agree, if not i VERY agree with damned and finnius, BTW finius, you sayed you were leaveing.
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Korrd,Feb 21 2006, 10:03 AM Wrote:1. It took me arround 30 minutes to take him down. And you know that. All you did was complaining that "the battle was taking too long". And saying that "you would defeat him in less than a fraction of the time it took me". And when you fight him, he destroyed you in what? 3-4 minutes?
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He beat me because i was using my crappy fighter. Missing a Tizona and had absolutely no armor upgrades. Plus my cannonball missile wasn't allowed.
Quote:Could you diminish the size of your signature?.. its way too long...
Muhuhuhuhuhuhuhahahaha.... i know. Well ok.
You should of PMed me this is offtopic.
LET'S NOT ALK ABOUT PAST BATLES OK? CONTINUE WITH THE 4.79 BUGS&FEATURES.
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Well, I guess Tzunami didn't pay attention to forementioned offtopic, so I reduced his sig a bit myself.
And one more offtopic: Tzunami is probably the first one on this forum (or, maybe alongside with Venom) whom I already want to deprive of posting rights... endless offtopic, misspelling member's names, excess use of smileys - enough I think. Maybe you should watch what you post?
As for Rheinland Bomber, I'm now surprised why some people here complained that it was too maneuverable. Maybe they should answer?
:angry: :angry: :angry2: :angry2: You do not know what you are talking about. I did not post that many mistakes. I may use smielies a lot when i post but i don't see others doing it different.
I REDUCED MY SIG BUT YOU REALLY REDUCED IT. IF I CAN'T HAV A SIG THAT BIG THEN WHY DID YOU MAKE THE LIMIT OF 10K? :angry: :angry: :angry:
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They complain because a player using a bomber can defeat a player using a fighter.
In most situations, a well piloted bomber can defeat a fighter. Because the bomber has more firepower, armor and nanobots than the fighter.
Most people thinks that maneuverability has something to do with that, but in my opinion, it hasnt. And i have proof of that.
In one ocassion, I have fought an eagle with my RH bomber using conventional means: that is traditional dogfight, where the most maneuverable ship wins because you cant shake it from your tail.
After 15 mins of battle, i was defeated. I was unable to take down the eagle because it outmaneuvered me.
But, there is a way to defeat a more maneuverable ship, for example, a slipstream, with a less maneuverable one, say, a RH Bomber. The Slide maneuver, which i mentioned a few posts above..
there ie it:
Attack Pattern "Slide Wrote:Take distance, turn and thrust against the enemy, throw him whatever you got, and run in the opposite direction of the enemy craft, to take distance and have time to turn. Then, repeat the maneuver. Engine kill is crucial to perform that maneuver, because you need to keep running away from the enemy while you turn in order to avoid being hit.
With this maneuver, you are not using the maneuverability of my ship against him, you are using the superior strength and firepower of your ship against the More maneuverable ship. But beware, you need to have good accuracy with weps, or the maneuver will work against you.
Defeating a slipstream is hell of hard even doing that maneuver, but it is possible. Ive fought 3 times against a slipstream with my RH bomber. And i succeeded in defeating it 2 out of 3 times, after 45 minutes of battle...
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