I would put a complant In about An Navy Officer under the name TF7|RA-Ian.Homles / Ian.homles
To Cut a long stort short I was on trenton when what seem To be a molly came over to Trenton outpost
I asked The "Molly-Ian.Homles" To move away from our station and When i asked this be became very hostile and insalting, his behaver was not that i would from a navy officer to witch i did not know at first i managed to chase the the Molly away. and i thourt that was the end of you but then i got a few pms saying he was under cover navy officer,
even that he ran i did not bother chassing him as he left trenton outpost so in a way he ended up moving away from trenton when he ran to the lane that leads to West Point
He Came back as TF7|RA-Ian.Homles saying to i tryed to muder him this were thing just get odder he then tell im under arrest for Attempted muder of him self! and when i confrounted him about this Very Odd lie of his
he inlisted the help of a junker to try Blown me up for trying to talk about this outside Trenton outpost
at this point i just docked On trenton And try to make sence of it all,
Then again Today again outside Trenton Outpost again u tryed to arrest me again lucky for me i had Other USI members around to stick up to this Odd Person well once again we had a long chat but he still seem to think it ok to do what he did under the the molly flag he was flying at first
Thank you for your time and i hope get this problem sorted with out haveing to defend my self from this man again
--Incoming Transmission--
--Sending Neural Net ID, Kin James USI--
--Location; New York, Trenton Outpost: Internal Affairs Office--
As my associate has already outlined we have a small issue with this pilot, Ian Holmes. While I am still reviewing past information I can definitively give you the following from my own logs. I have highlighted the points I found most relevant. I am aware of the Liberty Navy's Authority and recognize that yes at times your pilots step in to combat the more subversive and criminal factions within our great house.. But honestly that this "officer" within the navy is bringing attempted murder charges upon himself, by HIMSELF is outrageous.
Assault perhaps but let's be honest. Raven while a at times enthusiastic and intimidating individual is not a murderer. As far as I know Mr.Holmes may not have even had his shield dropped. Regardless of the actions of Raven towards Mr.Holmes, which may be addressed appropriately at another time and venue.. Your man has a severe conflict of interests by taking on a case he is involved in as a "victim". Especially him opening fire upon a universal vessel, honestly if he wanted the Raven grounded the Liberty Navy should go through standard protocol. We could have had him locked down on Trenton and handed over to the authorities immediately. However these actions make me seriously question his accusations. I have already ordered Raven to disengage and avoid conflict if at all possible even if that means performing emergency docking at Trenton.
Quote:[20.01.2012 06:33:50] TF7|RA-Ian.Holmes: Ahem.
[20.01.2012 06:34:03] [*USI*]K.James[R]: Ahem indeed, you care to explain yourself?
[20.01.2012 06:34:11] [*USI*]RavenII[E]: yes thats the guy!
[20.01.2012 06:34:30] TF7|RA-Ian.Holmes: I am attempting a lawful arrest of the captain of the Raven. You will not interfere in any way. [20.01.2012 06:34:38] [*USI*]K.James[R]: On what grounds?
[20.01.2012 06:34:43] TF7|RA-Ian.Holmes: Attempted murder.
[20.01.2012 06:34:44] [*USI*]RavenII[E]: Unlawfall
[20.01.2012 06:34:52] [*USI*]RavenII[E]: Thats a lie [20.01.2012 06:34:53] [*USI*]K.James[R]: and why the devil are you discharging your weapons in close proximity to trenton?
[20.01.2012 06:35:10] TF7|RA-Ian.Holmes: Beacuse your pilot is resisting arrest.
[20.01.2012 06:35:24] [*USI*]RavenII[E]: I removed a some acking like molly from trenton
[20.01.2012 06:35:26] [*USI*]K.James[R]: Thats a serious charge mate, you better have evidence.
[20.01.2012 06:35:50] TF7|RA-Ian.Holmes: I have photo evidence from the beginning of the incident to the very end.
[20.01.2012 06:35:59] [*USI*]RavenII[E]: so do i ian
[20.01.2012 06:36:15] [*USI*]RavenII[E]: And you never told me you were anavy officer
[20.01.2012 06:36:27] [*USI*]K.James[R]: My pilot says he was removing a potential threat from our control zone, I'm inclined to believe him.
[20.01.2012 06:36:33] [*USI*]RavenII[E]: When i asked you to move to told me to bugger off you git
[20.01.2012 06:36:53] TF7|RA-Ian.Holmes: Liberty law does nto allow for murder on any grounds.
[20.01.2012 06:37:06] [*USI*]K.James[R]: You are going to have to be specific, who and what.
[20.01.2012 06:37:09] Death: Order_CVR_NightWatch was killed by an NPC
[20.01.2012 06:37:19] TF7|RA-Ian.Holmes: Moreover, the pilot in question was registered as a freelancer.
[20.01.2012 06:37:23] [*USI*]RavenII[E]: you acked like a pirate so i had chasse you away
[20.01.2012 06:37:45] [*USI*]RavenII[E]: it was fly with a molly flag
[20.01.2012 06:38:02] TF7|RA-Ian.Holmes: I am done with the conversation. I will now be enacting my arrest. If you wish to challenge that, you will have your
[20.01.2012 06:38:10] [*USI*]RavenII[E]: If you said in the first place you were a officer of the navy i would of left you alone
[20.01.2012 06:38:11] TF7|RA-Ian.Holmes: opprotunity at the proper moment in the legal system.
[20.01.2012 06:38:28] [*USI*]RavenII[E]: But you just became rude
[20.01.2012 06:38:42] [*USI*]RavenII[E]: So your claim is out of order
[20.01.2012 06:38:46] TF7|RA-Ian.Holmes: Your pilot will be escorted to the Sugarland where he will be booked awaiting trial and/or bail.
[20.01.2012 06:39:11] [*USI*]K.James[R]: I wasn't aware the Navy was enacting martial law and acting as a police. Has the LPI and LSF become Defunct?
[20.01.2012 06:39:15] TF7|RA-Ian.Holmes: Any attempt at resisting, or aiding and abetting, will be a violation of section 1.4 of Liberty law.
[20.01.2012 06:39:23] Traffic control alert: NEBLIN has requested to dock
[20.01.2012 06:39:47] [*USI*]RavenII[E]: Then subit a report to head of usi
[20.01.2012 06:39:50] TF7|RA-Ian.Holmes: The Navy does not serve law enaction as it's primary duty, but it is among our secondary duties.
[20.01.2012 06:40:05] [*USI*]K.James[R]: May I ask who issued these orders?
[20.01.2012 06:40:18] [*USI*]RavenII[E]: I have the right to remove Mollys from trenton
[20.01.2012 06:40:39] [*USI*]K.James[R]: There must be a warrant on file for you to be taking this action.
[20.01.2012 06:40:41] A player who was killed in a PvP fight is not allowed to re-engage using any of his/her characters within 4 hours.
[20.01.2012 06:40:41] Characters of a player who was killed in a PvP fight must not return into the same system for 4 hours. Check the server rules on the forums for the exceptions to this.
[20.01.2012 06:41:14] [*USI*]K.James[R]: Otherwise you are about to find yourself under a pile of paperwork. Now, was there a report filed and is there a warrant?
[20.01.2012 06:41:28] [*USI*]RavenII[E]: and know today u fired on a transport of USI [20.01.2012 06:41:30] TF7|RA-Ian.Holmes: An officer of the Navy does not need a filed warrant when he can personally verify that criminal action has taken place.
[20.01.2012 06:41:36] TF7|RA-Ian.Holmes: As i can.
[20.01.2012 06:42:26] [*USI*]RavenII[E]: Like i said file a report with usi if your think i have wronged you untill then any action you take agaest me will be ileage
[20.01.2012 06:42:36] Death: SR-Dubin committed suicide
[20.01.2012 06:42:39] TF7|RA-Ian.Holmes: USI is not a legal authority, you fool.
[20.01.2012 06:42:44] [*USI*]K.James[R]: One more question, were there any witnesses to this?
[20.01.2012 06:42:59] [*USI*]K.James[R]: I'm wondering what your evidence is.
[20.01.2012 06:43:00] [*USI*]RavenII[E]: But i have the right to remove molly from trenton
[20.01.2012 06:43:15] [*USI*]RavenII[E]: Still not told me as well Mr james
[20.01.2012 06:43:18] [*USI*]K.James[R]: and we do have a zone of authority we have the right to police.
[20.01.2012 06:43:49] [*USI*]RavenII[E]: But i got scans of him acting like a molly and telling me to bugger of you git
[20.01.2012 06:43:52] TF7|RA-Ian.Holmes: There were witnesses to the later part of hostilities between your pilot and myself. A junker who can verify that all
[20.01.2012 06:44:01] [*USI*]K.James[R]: We have a no fire zone we enforce, as well as the right to remove those who disrespect and disrupt our operations.
[20.01.2012 06:44:21] TF7|RA-Ian.Holmes: Hostilities started with your pilot. But witnesses are unrealiable. I have full guncam documentation of the entire event.
[20.01.2012 06:44:36] [*USI*]K.James[R]: Hostilities towards yourself eh? What about the attempted murder.
[20.01.2012 06:44:45] [*USI*]RavenII[E]: So do i Ian and SHOWS you as a molly
[20.01.2012 06:44:52] TF7|RA-Ian.Holmes: That would also be attempted murder of me.
[20.01.2012 06:44:54] [*USI*]K.James[R]: If you were attempting to arrest him as you are now I bet he was hostile. I'm talking about beforehand.
[20.01.2012 06:44:59] [*USI*]RavenII[E]: and acting lik eone
[20.01.2012 06:45:38] Death: godzilla committed suicide [20.01.2012 06:46:01] [*USI*]RavenII[E]: If your were under cover like you said before then your should of told me in privite comm but you did not so i acted lawfull
[20.01.2012 06:46:03] [*USI*]K.James[R]: and you've still not told me who he attempted to murder before your arrest attempts.
[20.01.2012 06:46:38] [*USI*]RavenII[E]: he can not anser that hahahaha as and scan he got will be the same as mine
[20.01.2012 06:46:40] Death: umz was killed by loler (Gun) [20.01.2012 06:46:45] TF7|RA-Ian.Holmes: He attempted to murder me, while i was not flying a government-issued ship or on the clock. [20.01.2012 06:46:57] [*USI*]K.James[R]: What vessel were you in sir?
[20.01.2012 06:47:00] TF7|RA-Ian.Holmes: And was therefore in a civilian ship, with civilian weapons, flying civilian freelancer papers.
[20.01.2012 06:47:03] TF7|RA-Ian.Holmes: A wasapu.
[20.01.2012 06:47:18] [*USI*]RavenII[E]: With a molly Flag
[20.01.2012 06:47:44] [*USI*]K.James[R]: In that case, you have made a very grievous error by coming here.
[20.01.2012 06:47:59] [*USI*]RavenII[E]: This is your own falt ian [20.01.2012 06:48:01] [*USI*]K.James[R]: You sir have commited a cardinal sin, conflict of interest.
[20.01.2012 06:48:14] [*USI*]K.James[R]: You should have reported this and had another officer take care o fit
[20.01.2012 06:48:30] [*USI*]K.James[R]: By coming here yourself you have invalidated your claims and your case.
[20.01.2012 06:48:33] [*USI*]RavenII[E]: If you told me who your were in the beginning this would not of happernd
[20.01.2012 06:49:10] [*USI*]RavenII[E]: And you acted rudely and a squred me up ,, [20.01.2012 06:49:27] TF7|RA-Ian.Holmes: A conflict of interest only applies to the jury and the judge within the Liberty legal system. Were officers forbidden from
[20.01.2012 06:49:43] [*USI*]K.James[R]: you are participating in a case you are personally involved in.
[20.01.2012 06:49:46] [*USI*]RavenII[E]: But im willing to chop this up to a Mistake and leave it as that if not i will take this to high command
[20.01.2012 06:50:16] [*USI*]RavenII[E]: As noone did not get harmed in the end
[20.01.2012 06:50:41] TF7|RA-Ian.Holmes: I have followed all applied regulations. And I will now be escorting your pilot to the Sugarland. There will be no more
[20.01.2012 06:50:44] TF7|RA-Ian.Holmes: discussion of this.
[20.01.2012 06:50:48] [*USI*]RavenII[E]: So how about it
[20.01.2012 06:51:48] TF7|RA-Ian.Holmes: Captain of the Raven, you will proceed on impulse power to the Fort Bush trade lane. Now.
[20.01.2012 06:51:52] [*USI*]RavenII[E]: Ok then i will file report on your gross misconduct
[20.01.2012 06:51:57] TF7|RA-Ian.Holmes: Feel free.
[20.01.2012 06:52:12] [*USI*]RavenII[E]: but im not going anywere with you
[20.01.2012 06:52:22] TF7|RA-Ian.Holmes: Make that three counts of resisting arrest.
[20.01.2012 06:52:38] [*USI*]RavenII[E]: Dose not as your the one in Error [20.01.2012 06:53:01] [*USI*]K.James[R]: Lad, you are personally involved and incapable of making sound judgements. If you'd like to persue this through other means.
[20.01.2012 06:53:01] TF7|RA-Ian.Holmes: Oh, that's a brilliant argument.
Shortly after this a hacker ship flew by around 9k out. Outside of my strike zone. The one valid and true thing Mr.Holmes did during this episode is go after him... Though admittedly he disengaged a few moments later and fled, citing something about being unable to do anything useful in a bomber or somesuch thing.
Gentleman, I do not wish to waste either my own or your time. If I have made an error here please do inform me of it. However as it stands now I have a liberty bomber hassling one of my best pilots. Any assistance that can be rendered in this matter will be greatly appreciated. If Mr.Holmes would care to press charges through conventional means rather then trying to impose his will USI will be more then happy to meet him in court.
Thank you for bringing this issue to my attention, I'll be contacting Officer Holmes to ascertain his side of the story
As I understand it, there were two, separate incidents with this officer - An initial conflict over a Molly ship and a secondary incident where the Officer attempted to arrest Raven. The evidence provided is of the latter incident, correct?
More evidence of the initial incident is required - Such as, who fired the first shot and a comms log.
Let it be known that if a Navy officer is fired upon, he or she has the authority to kill the aggressors on sight - Not simply arrest them.
--Incoming Transmission--
--Sending Neural Net ID, Kin James USI--
--Location; New York, Trenton Outpost: Internal Affairs Office--
The timely response is much appreciated Admiral. I will attempt to clarify to the best of my understanding, which to be honest I'm still sorting out the details as well. The initial incident, which I am still awaiting information on myself, occurred between Mr.Raven on his USI vessel, and Mr.Holmes flying an unmarked Civilian Wasupu. From what Raven has told me and what little I have seen of it Mr.Holmes was using a faulty transponder or somesuch where Raven identified him as a Molly. This impression was furthered by Mr.Holmes Behavior at the time.
Raven asked him to move away from Trenton as he was interrupting our operation and according to the transponder a potential threat, which is among his usual duties. After Mr.Holmes declined to cooperate Raven enforced his removal. The details of this I regrettably do not have as of yet. My understanding thus far is that Mr.Holmes did not identify himself as an Liberty Navy Officer at this time. As for who fired at who and when and how much is unknown to me. To be frank I am still buried under paperwork from this damned collision incident and.. well varying other confidential reports. As soon as possible they will be provided by either myself or The Raven.
The ongoing problem, or rather the ongoing second incident includes at present at least two attempts, one of which I intervened on the behalf of my pilot which is the previous log, where Mr.Holmes has returned to Trenton and hounded Raven making attempts to arrest him. Now given that by Ravens understanding this seems like an unlawful and wholly inappropriate arrest he has indeed not been cooperating. If I read my last report right this is still ongoing and what prompted the first transmission.
I'd like to point out, at no point to my knowledge has Mr.Holmes attempted to levy a fine of any type, seems to be acting stubbornly and in spite of a conflict of interest, has not asked any of USI's Management or leadership for lawful assistance that are well within our capabilities, and is enacting an unusual lockdown protocol. Never before have I seen any of Liberties finest attempt to escort a vessel to a secure prison facility for judgement. I would think Ft.Bush or Norfolk would be considerably more capable of locking down a Captured Vessel and handling its crew for processing.
It is possible that all of this is simply outside of my experience, but I assure you all USI captains are well aware that opening fire upon any liberty navy is absolutely unacceptable. We have not engaged Mr.Holmes in any way aside from Comm traffic while aboard his bomber. For the moment what I am looking for is to get Mr.Holmes to stand down. After that another officer may pursue his case regarding the initial problem.
For now it is a relatively minor problem in the grand scheme of things, I assume we'd both like to keep it that way.
Thank you again for your time Admiral, as soon as either of us can provide more intel it will be sent. Assuming I can ever dig myself out of behind this infernal pile of paperwork on my desk.. Blasted eccentric pilots and their antics.
Thank you for bringing this issue to my attention, I'll be contacting Officer Holmes to ascertain his side of the story
As I understand it, there were two, separate incidents with this officer - An initial conflict over a Molly ship and a secondary incident where the Officer attempted to arrest Raven. The evidence provided is of the latter incident, correct?
More evidence of the initial incident is required - Such as, who fired the first shot and a comms log. *
Let it be known that if a Navy officer is fired upon, he or she has the authority to kill the aggressors on sight - Not simply arrest them. [color=#FFCC00]Admiral Jack Malrone
--Stream End'
[Transmission End]
* I Admit I opened Fire first outside Trenton outpost to do drive the rude "molly" away and at this point far as i could tell it was a molly acking like a pirate
"As you see the first words out of Mr Mr.Holmes IS bugger off you git" Not wise words from a ship with molly Tag outside trenton
and on returning With navy Ship Mr.Holmes open fire first when i would not go with him to sugerland. to witch im sure he will freeley admit
From this i only want Mr.Holmes to back down from his Very Odd claim on the basis that he did not id him self as an offcier of the navy in the first place and his odd behaver outside trenton is what lead to him be removed from trenton the first place.
i list the edvents to make it clearer for you
1 Molly ship "Mr.Holmes" turns up outside trenton
2 Molly ship "Mr.Holmes" is asked to move away from trenton outpost the molly reponds with bugger off you git.
3 I Try to remove molly ship "Mr.Holmes" from trenton and he runs away
4 Mr.Holmes returns in navy ship to arrest me and i did not go with him to sugerland
5 he trys to blown me up outside trenton with a junker helping called J.D
6 i docked on trenton
7 later he trys again to arrest me .
8 we have a stand off outside trenton with 2 USI Workers who can not get a strate anser out of him
9 he still will not anser why he did not tell me he was a navy officer in the first place
Transmission; Start
Identification: Commodore Christina Robinson
Location: Withheld
Encryption: Secure
Raven et al.;
You shouldn't be scared of any consequences of this. If he is undercover as a Molly, the following should be true;
He should be in Molly space, presumably infiltrating the Molly organisation.
He should expect to be treated as a Molly.
He should not then make his purpose evident to civilians.
Honestly, I think this individual is a little bit stupid, as is anybody who claims to be a spy, on a secret mission and so on. It's not secret if you tell people, is it?
Feel free to shoot at Mollys and individuals pretending to be Mollys, but do be careful of others. There are some organisations which are considered unlawful by other houses but not by this house.
You shouldn't be scared of any consequences of this. If he is undercover as a Molly, the following should be true;
He should be in Molly space, presumably infiltrating the Molly organisation.
He should expect to be treated as a Molly.
He should not then make his purpose evident to civilians.
Honestly, I think this individual is a little bit stupid, as is anybody who claims to be a spy, on a secret mission and so on. It's not secret if you tell people, is it?
Feel free to shoot at Mollys and individuals pretending to be Mollys, but do be careful of others. There are some organisations which are considered unlawful by other houses but not by this house.
Transmission Terminated
Well thank you for your Comments Commodore Christina Robinson
What you says make a lot of sence