No, I'm not joking. :lol:Sorry for the scheme, anyway it showed how are structured the powers of the higher ranks.
The triumvirate is formed by the Legate, Consules and Magister.
Legate have great military power and small diplomatic power respect the Consules = Military/diplomacy. Consules have great diplomatic power and small military power respect the Legate = Diplomacy/military. Magister have great commercial power and small diplomatic power respect the Consules = Commerce/diplomacy.
Legate and Magister have an equal diplomatic power = Legate (diplomacy) = Magister (diplomacy)
Every member of the triumvirate represents the will of his department.
Three powers: military, diplomacy, commerce.
I'm the other consule outside the triumvirate. My power is the ''control'', so I will act as the temporary leader, but now I'm a Consule.
I circled the two consuls to highlight their position in the structure. The triumvirate also has the task to oppose my decisions because the choices must be shared by all.
In case of dispute, the consul of the triumvirate should act as a guide for all other latin members against the leader consule.
Artic, your rank as tribune have both military and diplomacy power, but more military power than diplomatic power. It's no more a special rank, but anyway you can be the Consule, while Mamers, you can be a Magister. The rank magister would fit better the role that you want to play.
Do you like my idea? Can it works? Do you have a better idea or would you like to continue with the existing structure instead of this?
Took what you did, and implemented it into the Google doc (same link as before). This would be my proposal:
I left Equites and Tribune as special ranks. It just seems better that way. This gives a 6 rank ladder in each tree which is linear and easy to follow. I also think 6 ranks is enough. Equites kept as special since trade captains should never "need" to become a partially military asset to advance. Tribune kept as special since it is a Senate appointed position, not one risen to through normal military advancement. This keeps the slot open for the Senate to appoint people too, and is the Senate's most direct way to influence the Legion.
Added Scribe and Clerk as bottom ranks for Senate, Corporation of Merchants.
Special ranks table removed in favour of a listed Prerequisite.
Cosmetics also upgraded. :cool:
Only thing missing is a rank between Publican and Magister.
Again, go for it with any feedback or revisions.
Also Khassym, you should be able to add new people to the Skype chat as they join. If not let me know.
So,guys.I just had this idea.I spoke of it with Khassym,and he liked it,so I'm proposing it here.
So,basically,my idea is:
make the "corporation of merchants"a subfaction of some sorts.
What is it that we know?
We know that this faction,the Latin Republic, is based on ancient Rome,during the Republican era(so let us think of heroes such as Gaius Marius and butcherers like Sulla,and other random guys like Pompey,Caesar and gods know who else).Still,an important but undervalued part of ancient Republican Rome is you know what?
The Italic allies,the socii,who,till the Social War,provided the bulk of the manpower for the legions,and also acted as colonists in the conquered regions.
When Rome conquered the center and southern parts of the peninsula,we know that Roman law and rights weren't applied,not in the first moment.In fact,we'd have to wait for the Social War(and the subsequent rebellion of Italic peoples against Rome,the formation of the first Italian state against Rome and,finally,the full assimilation of the Italics in the Roman state by giving them the citizenship they were asking for when they rebelled)to have the Italics integrated in the Roman state(an integration wich proceded fairly fine.Do you know Pontius Pilate was a romanized Samnite?).
So,what is actually my plan?
To replicate,somehow,the situation in wich were the Italic peoples in the period preceding the 91 AC Social War.
The commercial part of the faction can become the "Italic"subpart of the Latin state in exile.A sort of subfaction.They're the space socii,if you want.
As of now,I have a very,very,very rough idea.
The areas subject to the authority of the commercial part of the faction(so the area surrounding bases and outposts built for commercial purposes)are what I call "touto".Each area surrounding a commercial station is a touto.A touto was the statal organizazion of the Oscan peoples(Samnites,Campanians,Lucanians,Picentines,that's my case,Marsics,and so on)
The stations themselves are the "cevs",meaning "city"in Oscan.
Each administrator of a commercial base and of its surrounding areas is what I call a "Meddix Tuticus",while the leader of the corporation of merchants itself is what I call the "Embratur"(Oscan term to indicate the leader of the state,usually a federation of tribes,each tribe being led by a Meddix Tuticus).
Anyway,in RP terms,how did we arrive to this Romans on a part and Sabellics on another one,and in one single state?
My idea is this:
we know that the Latins had colonies.Asking Khassym,we understand that they had Latium,the capital,and 4 or 5 other systems.
Of these,at least 1 or 2 may have been farther from the most important,richest,inner systems.We can imagine these two systems(wich we'll call from now on Campania and Samnium,or also Lucania and Samnium,or Campania and Lucania,I'll have to decide the names)would be more recent colonies.
Poorer colonies,inhabitated by poor people,with less economic possiblities and less political rights(no citizenship and no vote,mainly) than the people of the inner,older,richer systems.Now,let us imagine that the colonists from these 2 poorer and recently-colonized systems somehow get angry at the Latin government.Let us imagine that a political movement aiming for either:
a)the separation of these two systems in a federation,separated from Latium and Nova Roma
b)simply more rights,and for the Latin government caring more about them.
The movement gets sympathizers in a dozen or so of years and,though its leaders have different objectives(the two I listed up),they unite for the good of the Outer Colonies.
After a few dozen of years(let us imagine 50 years)the movement develops a culture based on Italic culture.
Everything is Italicized.Names are now Italic(so,similar to Latin ones,but different).Culture is now Italic(Italic paganism could be revived,for example,and also customs and clothes and so on of the Italic peoples can be revived.Let us think of space men with decorated bracelets and giant belts around their waists.That was how the average Italic person dressed before Romanization).The Oscan language has been revived and now is daily spoken alongside Italian,Italian regional languages and,to a lower extent,Latin.
The Movement(from now on the "Capuan League")starts arming itself for a war against Latium(the separatist part of the movement is,meanwhile,the biggest part,with the support of around 62% of the neo-Italics,the remaining being for authonomy and bigger rights)but,right in the moment they were about to launch their insurgency,the Huns come and lay waste to the Latin Republic,Outer Colonies included.Their homes included.
In the end,many members or sympathizers of this neo-Italic movement and culture flee with their Latin-speaking cousins to Sirius.Once arrived in Sirius,the Senate(what remains of it)gives to the neo-Italics the control of the wealth of the new Latin nation(a landless nation,for now).The corporation of merchants,the economic sector of the Latin Republic,develops itself as a subfaction of it.A state within the state,if you want,maintaining its peculiar Italic/Sabellic/Oscan/whatever characteriristics.
Modifications of the faction history. Changes in green.
History:
-Unknown Our ancestors and the War of Sol.
-Unknown The foundation of Latium vetus.
-Unknwon The expansion of the Latium vetus and the first social conflicts.
-814AS The meeting with the Huns and our collapse.
-819AS The attack of the Nomads and the new beginning.
Our ancestors and the War of Sol
Our ancestors were a coalition of Nova Roma, a sect in Italy, who expressed itself through the Latin culture. The sect was dreaming of a new social order founded on the values of what that was once the Roman Republic in Italy. This sense of renewal is expressed at its peak with the Allieance-Coalitation war. In that period the Italian state was corrupt and decadent, and was attacked by pro-reformist groups and popular revolts, always repressed with the use of the army. Every current reform expressed their ideas in secret meetings with some people and other groups in churcs with the support of the clerics. So were born ties between the organizations, and the Nova Roma took over the leadership of these founding the Circle of the Reformers. At the news of the destruction of the Italian fleet by the Coalition, the population fell into panic and social order seemed on the verge of collapse. It was at this point, with the terror of the imminent end of the earth, that the sect, to the leadership of the Circle of Reformers and with the consent of a small part of the population, made a radical choice. With his influence, they built some ships with which they would traveled in the universe to found a new colony. Two years later, the Alliance attacked the Coalition and the Sect take advantage of the confusion to send its ships into space.
The foundation of Latium vetus
After many years, these ships went to a new system, where the Circle of Reformers, under the leadership of the Nova Roma, founded the first colony, called Lavinium in honor of Aeneas, the main character of Aeneid to which they felt very close. After the first colony, there were other grounds, which were given Latin names of ancient cities, so the system took on the name of Latium. Also the Nova Roma found the first Republic of Latium and assumed control of the colonies, proclaiming the birth of Latium vetus, the territory occupied by them. Ignorance and indifference of the people never allowed the spread of Latin as a language, as the Sect had wanted. In reality, this language continued to belong only to clubs of reformers. The Sect seek to dissolve thes clubs to avoid the risk of an alliance between them against the excessive power which it had obtained. But Holding the power with the illusion of a Republic founded on the will of the people, they did not notice the birth of a new club, the Imperium Society, who secretly sought the leadership of Latium Vetum. While the colonies grew, others were founded and new trade routes were established. Life in the colonies was pacific and stable social order. The sect controlled the Republic through the favor of the people and the temporany leader, a member who had the task of controlling the operations of the Republic.
The expansion of the Latium vetus and the first social conflicts
After centuries of expansion and colonization, the Latium vetus was formed by three systems, of which the first colonized and placed at the center was the latium centralis, while in the sides were situated the other two systems, called, respectively, Latium ulterior and Latium citerior. Each of these systems contained rich colonies of raw materials and outposts on major trade routes. Around the three main systems, however, there were other colonies, located in more remote areas where Latins were able to reach, but these areas were poor of primary resources and far away from Latium centralis, the center of the territorial power, and then left to themselves. But despite this, the expansionist impulses of Latinos led them to populating these territories, creating a distinction between the rich and powerful internal colonies, and the poor outer colonies, with fewer political rights and less economic possibility. Since outsiders thought that the interior wanted to keep them in that condition, as reaction they developed a neo-Sabellian culture and a separatist sentiment against the Roman ideology and centralized of the Republic. This caused the end of the Latin expansion and the social conflict between the two separatist and centralist movements. The political movement of the outsiders was designed to create a federation, separate from the power of the Republic and the recognition of their civil and political rights. This led them to establish the systems of Campania and Samnium, in line with their new Italic culture, and created a new economic and social organization. Also, after a long period of indifference to their demands by the interiors, the outsiders secretly prepared a military division in order to declare war on the Republic, but the arrival of the Huns stopped their plan.
The meeting with the Huns and our collapse
During the latin expansion and the social conflict between external and internal colonies, the following years were marked by the meeting with a faction of pirates who refused any kind of diplomacy and attacked the settlements more external. We gave them the nickname of '' Huns.'' The Imperium Society saw the collaboration with the Huns a opportunity to directly attack the Nova Roma and take command of Latium Vetus. So they organized a conspiracy against the Republic. They helped the Huns to place their ships in strategic locations, away from watchful eye of the colonies to attack the Latin fleets by surprise. In return the Imperium Society would gain control of the colonies. The 814AS pirates attacked the Latin fleets and colonies. Before long, the the Republic collapsed and the Imperium Society conquered with force the Latium Vetus. Thus began the persecution of the Nova Roma members and these with the part of Latin population still loyal to them tried to escape with some transports in search of a new home.
The attack of the Nomads and the new beginning
Traveling through the universe, after 5 years, the convoys reached Sirius. There were 20 ships, all transports. They were finished in the system called omicron Iota and there, they were attacked by the Nomads. Since they were totally helpless, they split into groups to increase their possibility of survival but only a group went in Omicron Delta through a jumphole. The convoy was almost completely damaged and the enemy ships were reaching them, when a group of Zoner convoys, seeing them in trouble, hit Nomads with a massive attack and brought them to safety. In gratitude, they decided to became allied with Zoners and to respect their rules and covenants. They also decided to start in Sirius the foundations to give a new prosperity to their faction. Their new temporany leader Khassym tooks the task of finding the remaining members lost in omicrons and found the new Repubblic of Latium.