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From, Captain Will Rogers, Commander, Oklahoma Battle Group, Liberty Navy.

To all Bretonian military forces:


Your government has yet to pay restitution or apologize for the illegal attack on the LNS-Oklahoma in Newcastle nearly two weeks ago. I had hoped to resolve the situation peacefully and diplomatically, without embarrassing Bretonia's international reputation any further (given how poorly the war is faring with Gallia, isolating an ally is not a good idea).

Therefore it is with a heavy heart that the Oklahoma Battle Group will now begin enforcing an embargo against all Bretonian ships entering liberty space until an apology and restitution is made from either the Antioch, Conqueror, Dauntless, Darjeeling, or St. Gloriana. Traders will be asked to pay a 5mil fine, turn back and leave, or be destroyed.

Furthermore, attached are comm logs documenting the abusive nature of the BAF towards an ally, that every attempt was made to leave peacefully, and that the Oklahoma opened fire only after intercepting the Bretonian order to fire on her.

If you wish to revise the treaty and Bretonian law, that is your perogative, but here is the relevant section AS IT WAS RATIFIED when the incident occured:

Foreign warships are banned from Bretonian borders, without prior permission of the Bretonian Government or War Cabinet. Capital ships may also be escorted through Bretonian-claimed space by a ranking officer of the BPA) or BAF|.
Vessels acting in contravention of this order will face a minimum fine of 5,000,000 credits and immediate expulsion from Bretonian borders. Warships are classified as cruisers/destroyers and larger.
Exceptions: viewable by those excepted and Bretonian lawful forces only
Capital vessels part of the Liberty Navy expeditionary force in New London, Newcastle, Manchester, Magellan, Cortez or in pursuit of Gallic forces.

CR| and =VG= capital ships within Magellan, Cortez or in pursuit of Gallic Forces.
[101st], CL} and other approved MNS capital ships in Newcastle or pursuit of Gallic or Corsair forces.
Council capital ships in Newcastle, Manchester, Magellan or in pursuit of Gallic forces.
Kusari Exiles capital ships in Dundee, Newcastle or in pursuit of Gallic forces.
[RHA] and [RF] capital ships in Omega-3 or in pursuit of Corsair forces.
Officially registered Zoner capital ships proceeding directly between their holdings around Bretonia.


-End citation. As you can clearly see, Liberty Navy ships are automatically exempted within the standing law. Just because it is Bretonian space does not allow officers to change the law or reinterpret treaty at whim. NOWHERE is there a mention of "primary fleet vessels only", as your officers tried to claim.

You may find documentation of the incident, here:
http://imgur.com/a/O5H4L

Regards, Captain Rogers
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Greetings, Mister/Misses [will rogers].

[stop rantin an elp me over ere ,will ya ? blimey , this stain just wont get off !]

Signed, [barney mccrotty], Norfolk Lavatory Janitor
More insults, what a shame. And your civilians will pay the price...
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Captain Rogers, Liberty Navy, Secondary Fleet.

I'm not sure what sort of entitlement you think you have here, or whom you think you are exactly. We have explained time and again that you are wrong in this matter, even conducting an improptu investigation with the aid of a Vice Admiral of the Liberty Navy, at the end of which he escorted you from our space.

The exception you are qouting applies to the expeditionary force of the Primary Fleet, as you have been advised. It was stated when we implemented the exception, and made clear to both sides. However, I will find the law amended, to prevent ignorant captains in future falling under the same problem.

Now, Captain Rogers. I will give you one chance to rethink your position. If you wish to continue to threaten the civilians of Bretonia, you will be labled a terrorist to this house. Any attempt to enter will be met with your immediate destruction. I will also demand that you be brought to justice by the Libertonian Admiralty, whom I am forwarding these tranmissions to immediately. Until such a time as you retract your statement, you will find my officers already preparing to defend Bretonian shipping, and to destroy any attempt you make to harm the House of Bretonia.

Captain Rogers. I expect your reply promptly. Your decision will decide your future with Bretonia.

On behalf of Her Majesty the Queen, and Her People in the Realm of Bretonia,

Fleet Admiral Michelle O'Brian
Commanding Officer of Her Majesty's Armed Forces
Bretonian Armed Forces
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Good evening. My name is Agent Lancaster, Director of MI5 and Chief of Operations. Now, you see my job, as well as the rest of MI5, is to protect Bretonia from threats internally be it from a group of pirates to rogue captains such as yourself.

What you have done here is you have caused major issues that could have been solved if you had obeyed the orders of the Armed Forces personnel. I do believe that foreign Capital Vessels have to obey the commands of law enforcements such as MI5, The Police Authority and the Armed Forces. You, Sir, are no exception.

To get to the point. This embargo is stupid, nuts and totally crazy just like yourself. You will lift the embargo before we have to act in self defence for Bretonia. You are a security threat and this is something we can not deal with right now. Especially with Gallia. If you want to help, get to the front line.

My Agents have been ordered to keep an eye out for you and to prevent you from causing harm. We will take no mercy on you if you persist to carry on with this embargo. You will become an outlaw and banned from Bretonia space. Now, you have a chance to sort this out.

What will it be, Captain?

Agent Lancaster
Chief of Operations
Director of MI5
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Captain Will Rogers, Commander, Oklahoma Battle Group,

Seeing as you have sent this to us we will respond.

Quote:-End citation. As you can clearly see, Liberty Navy ships are automatically exempted within the standing law. Just because it is Bretonian space does not allow officers to change the law or reinterpret treaty at whim. NOWHERE is there a mention of "primary fleet vessels only", as your officers tried to claim.

We have included a part of your First Transmission. Interesting that you Tranmission includes the line:

'Just because it is Bretonian space does not allow officers to change the law or reinterpret treaty at whim'

We are in full agreement with this statement in all respects. But It seems that, Sir, you are a hypocrite and the reason being because of your statement in your first Transmission:
Quote:Therefore it is with a heavy heart that the Oklahoma Battle Group will now begin enforcing an embargo against all Bretonian ships entering liberty space until an apology and restitution is made from either the Antioch, Conqueror, Dauntless, Darjeeling, or St. Gloriana. Traders will be asked to pay a 5mil fine, turn back and leave, or be destroyed.
And in a later Transmission
Quote:More insults, what a shame. And your civilians will pay the price...

And also for this Transmission we received from one of our Lawful Traders:

http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=121662

Having had our Lawyers read, reread, and gone through the Laws of Liberty with a fine tooth comb, they assure us that there is in no way, shape or form a Law restricting Bretonian Corporations to Trade in Texas or any other Part of Liberty, that is accessible to normal Civilian Shipping.

We have included a link to the Libertonian Law for you perusal, just in case you have an old, out of date copy in your Stateroom.

http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread...#pid184926

We feel that we should also point you to portions of our Law:

Bretonian Charter of Interstellar Law, Chapter 4 -Crimes and Illegal Conduct, Sub-Section 4.1 - Assault on a Lawful Entity, which states:
Quote:Anyone who fires on any lawful entity will be fined a minimum of 4,000,000 credits. Failure to immediately cease hostilities will result in the use of lethal force. This pertains to firing on individuals, ships, installations or infrastructure, i.e. a BAF Templar, King'€™s Cross Station, Kensington'€™s cargo depots.

Which having gone through the GunCams, that you provided, seem to show that you fired first and destroyed one of the BAF's GunBoats. Luckily for you, we believe, that the Captain and Crewed survived.

Also Sub-Section 6.2 - Ban on Suing the Government and Armed Forces, which states:
Quote:Under the Articles of War, it is now illegal in Bretonia to file civil or criminal actions against the Armed Forces or the Crown during a time of war. This is to prevent distractions from the war effort. Any such attempt shall incur a hefty fine to the person breaking this law, and be subject to arrest.

So, Sir, we suggest that at the minute you are standing on very shaky ground and you may find yourself being liable to fines each and every time you enter Bretonian Space.

We would suggest that seek Legal Advice before you carry on with what appears, to us, as Highly Illegal Activities in Both Liberty and Bretonia.

We would also suggest that the Pilot of LN-HOTDOG, who we presume is under your Command, remain out of Bretonia until this has been successfully resolved and restitution, the return of the Illegal Fine, to the Captain of the BMF|Hippolyth has been dealt with.

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I don't know who YOU think you are dealing with, as Liberty captains don't come to command a whole Carrier group by apologizing and capitulating. I don't know why we are risking our lives and resources helping you when Rheinland is right at our backdoor.
So let ME make several things clear: If all visitors to Bretonia must comply with an officers demands, no matter how illegal that demand might be, then, visitors to Liberty from Bretonia can expect to receive the same treatment. You cannot revise the wording to an exception of your law ex post facto.
Furthermore, even if the case could be made to a third party regarding whether or not I am in the right on this issue, and even if said 3rd party arbiter ruled against me, LEVYING A 40 MILLION FINE WHEN THE MINIMUM IS FIVE IS NOT WISE DIPLOMACY. What did you expect would happen at that point? You continually insult not only me, but all Liberty captains by operating under this delusion that we are your commoner servants and will back down at the first sign of a threat. As a general rule, we are friendly, law-abiding people, who desire peace with all. We do NOT respond well to attempted humiliation, however.
-You seem to be under the illusion I am alone in this matter. Already, several dozen pilots and a few cruiser and battleship captains have expressed their support. More will follow.
-As to your threat about banning me from Bretonia, you have nothing to worry about there. Make no mistake, I have no desire to ever set one foot inside your rat-infested house again. I'll see if I can contract a shipment of books via Interspace to New London, and I suggest you use them to start learning French, because it will be my great pleasure to watch Gallia stomp all over you. I will not lift one finger to help. I would be happy to watch you try to invade Liberty however.

Of course, all of this unpleasantness could be avoided with a simple APOLOGY. I might even forego the demand for reparations, against the wishes of my surviving crewmen. It could go something like: "oh, we're sorry captain Rogers, we understand it was a tense situation and our officers got a little carried away. Here's a clarification of our law, but in the future, we hope to welcome you as a valued ally and visitor. We will reprimand our officers and re-train them on the protocols for escorting foreign warships out of our space. (such as: don't insult them, don't threaten to fire on them unless they display hostility, don't fine them exorbitant amounts for a first offence, allow for a diplomatic solution, refer the matter to their superior regarding fines, etc)."
And then i'd be like: "Hey! It's all water under the bridge mate! Those laws and contracts sure are a heavy read, eh? Well that's why I went to flight school instead of law school! I'll be sure to follow your laws carefully, and I'd be honored to fight by your side against those Gallic scum next time they show their face in Bretonia!"
Just my little wishful imagination.

Your call, Bretonia.
Regards,
Captain Rogers.
BPA, it is interesting that you admit that officers cannot re-make the law in their own hands, and then accuse me of hypocrisy. Your very admission reveals that it is your officers who have done this first.

Also i suggest you review the comms log and gun cam footage I supplied at the beginning of this transmission. You will clearly see that the gunboat had given the command to fire on me first. I cannot help it if my men have faster reflexes, but upon hearing this threat, we considered this a matter of self defense.
"You seem to be corrupt, and because of that we are going to [sic] destruct your vessel"
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