10-07-2018, 03:03 PM
10/07/741 A.G.S.
When I started my flight to get my head free from all those problems I had in the past, I did not expect what would happen today.
Starting from Kepler, I quickly made my way through Kusari into the Taus, looking for traders or anyone else who might be of my interest.
After a little trouble with an GMS train, I decided that I should see my old home once again, so I took the gate to Languedoc and went deep into the heart of Gallia.
Now that I think about it, it was once again one of my reckless and emotional decisions. I barely dodged the law around Paris and found myself in the hotspot of gallic commerce, the Picardy system. This is the place where I met a very special person, who was flying an Gallic Metal Service train. He said his name was Marcel.
Even though I just tried to get some spare money out of him, as he was sitting right near Amiens in a superior position, I somehow ended up accusing him for his choice of lifestyle. A working member of the gallic society. I presume he must be living in the upper class, as he seemed quite happy with his work at the metal service. The GMS workers I met before usually were demotivated, exhausted and most of the time rather quiet. But this person seemed to be very happy with the system he's a part of, something I can't understand.
We then had a very long discussion, in which I told him about my ideology, believes and plans. I actually told him a lot more than I wanted to, but sometimes, if a person is up for a good discussion, I just loose myself in it. Even after hours of discussing, he still had his point of view and I had mine. But he gave me a lot to think of.
I know archieving my goals would in no way be easy, but actually keeping them up for a longer time will be a very difficult problem too. I can't do it alone. I need to get some help.
But that's the goal for another day. I will leave some important information in this folder, so I will never forget what I learned today. I still think the houses must fall, but it's a long way to go.
I am not willing to give up like this!
Visual of the ship at Amiens
When I started my flight to get my head free from all those problems I had in the past, I did not expect what would happen today.
Starting from Kepler, I quickly made my way through Kusari into the Taus, looking for traders or anyone else who might be of my interest.
After a little trouble with an GMS train, I decided that I should see my old home once again, so I took the gate to Languedoc and went deep into the heart of Gallia.
Now that I think about it, it was once again one of my reckless and emotional decisions. I barely dodged the law around Paris and found myself in the hotspot of gallic commerce, the Picardy system. This is the place where I met a very special person, who was flying an Gallic Metal Service train. He said his name was Marcel.
Even though I just tried to get some spare money out of him, as he was sitting right near Amiens in a superior position, I somehow ended up accusing him for his choice of lifestyle. A working member of the gallic society. I presume he must be living in the upper class, as he seemed quite happy with his work at the metal service. The GMS workers I met before usually were demotivated, exhausted and most of the time rather quiet. But this person seemed to be very happy with the system he's a part of, something I can't understand.
We then had a very long discussion, in which I told him about my ideology, believes and plans. I actually told him a lot more than I wanted to, but sometimes, if a person is up for a good discussion, I just loose myself in it. Even after hours of discussing, he still had his point of view and I had mine. But he gave me a lot to think of.
I know archieving my goals would in no way be easy, but actually keeping them up for a longer time will be a very difficult problem too. I can't do it alone. I need to get some help.
But that's the goal for another day. I will leave some important information in this folder, so I will never forget what I learned today. I still think the houses must fall, but it's a long way to go.
I am not willing to give up like this!
Visual of the ship at Amiens
[07.10.2018 10:20:40] Black.Star: Bonjour.
[07.10.2018 10:20:52] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Bonjour
[07.10.2018 10:21:21] Black.Star: Again one of the miners. Again without ore? Is the business so bad?
[07.10.2018 10:21:45] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Pardon? I am not a Miner
[07.10.2018 10:22:10] Black.Star: I know, but you are a part of le roi's metal service.
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[07.10.2018 10:22:44] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I am a Worker of the Gallic Metal Service, oui
[07.10.2018 10:22:44] Black.Star: And you guys are supposed to haul the valuable stuff.
[07.10.2018 10:23:18] GMS|Marcel.Istres: It all depends on what our manifest tells to haul
[07.10.2018 10:23:49] Black.Star: Hmm. I wouldn't want to trade lives with you. Must be boring...
[07.10.2018 10:24:33] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I am happy with my life, Monsieur
[07.10.2018 10:24:51] Black.Star: Good for you, then.
[07.10.2018 10:25:11] Black.Star: So, what does your manifest tells you to do today?
[07.10.2018 10:25:45] Death: Nitro was divided by zero.
[07.10.2018 10:26:05] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Well, today, I am to supply Food, Oxygen and Water to certain places
[07.10.2018 10:26:21] Black.Star: Hmm. That's a tough one for me then.
[07.10.2018 10:26:44] GMS|Marcel.Istres: And why would that be a problem, Monsieur?
[07.10.2018 10:26:51] Death: Badboy was put out of action by a hostile vessel.
[07.10.2018 10:26:54] Black.Star: While I don't want my fellow gallics to starve, I also can't let you support the crown anymore.
[07.10.2018 10:27:14] Black.Star: Therefore, I should hit them where it hurts.
[07.10.2018 10:27:34] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Support the Crown? *looks puzzled*
[07.10.2018 10:28:02] Black.Star: You supply their men, you pay taxes... That's already support.
[07.10.2018 10:28:15] Black.Star: And I don't want y<ou to support them.
[07.10.2018 10:28:27] GMS|Marcel.Istres: If you say so. People need to eat
[07.10.2018 10:29:03] Black.Star: They do indeed... But those people's actions are wrong. I'm afraid there is no other way to stop them.
[07.10.2018 10:29:20] GMS|Marcel.Istres: It is wrong to eat?
[07.10.2018 10:29:49] Black.Star: It is wrong to support a house which enslaves their population sends young people to hell!
[07.10.2018 10:30:48] GMS|Marcel.Istres: It is my Home, Monsieur. I cannot just stop supplying the essentials, just because you think it is wrong
[07.10.2018 10:31:06] Death: Badboy was put out of action by a hostile vessel.
[07.10.2018 10:31:33] Black.Star: This is my home, too. But I saw what's going wrong in here. Maybe you indeed can't see it like this. But you are still a piece
[07.10.2018 10:31:49] Black.Star: of the evil in this house. Even if you help the people.
[07.10.2018 10:32:28] GMS|Marcel.Istres: If you say so, Monsieur. People are not evil, they live their lives to the best that they can do
[07.10.2018 10:33:13] Black.Star: They don't see the evil things their house is doing to them. Did you never want to live free, without anyone telling you what
[07.10.2018 10:33:17] Black.Star: to think or do?
[07.10.2018 10:34:11] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I have a Job, Monsieur. Part of that Job is doing what I am told, if it wasn't so, anarchy would prevail.
[07.10.2018 10:34:41] GMS|Marcel.Istres: People would starve, things would break and not get fixed.
[07.10.2018 10:34:51] Black.Star: Law and order hasn't benifit humantiy so far. We are going from one crysis to another.
[07.10.2018 10:35:03] GMS|Marcel.Istres: You have to have a semblance of order
[07.10.2018 10:35:31] Black.Star: You get raised with nothing but war and evil in your mind. Rarely any of the Royal Navy's pilots gets older than 30.
[07.10.2018 10:36:03] Black.Star: What we are doing here has no meaning after all. We just try to find a reason to eliminate our own species.
[07.10.2018 10:36:29] Black.Star: And every politician, every trader, every tax payer is a part of this crysis.
[07.10.2018 10:36:40] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I am evil, Monsieur. I am not was like, I just do my job and life my life.
[07.10.2018 10:37:06] GMS|Marcel.Istres: And what is your solution?
[07.10.2018 10:37:16] GMS|Marcel.Istres: To this............crisis?
[07.10.2018 10:37:40] Black.Star: We have to stop the governments of the houses, so people can all live free.
[07.10.2018 10:37:53] Black.Star: They are the one who profit from other people's death.
[07.10.2018 10:37:53] GMS|Marcel.Istres: And do what?
[07.10.2018 10:38:22] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So, who supplies the food, if everybody can do what they want?
[07.10.2018 10:38:33] Black.Star: Whatever they want to do. They don't have to follow orders or live in a corrupt system which offers them no chances.
[07.10.2018 10:38:44] Death: Avoca-3 was put out of action by Cool.To.Hate (Gun).
[07.10.2018 10:38:48] GMS|Marcel.Istres: No chances for what, Monsieur?
[07.10.2018 10:38:57] Black.Star: The people will have to organize that on their own.
[07.10.2018 10:39:00] GMS|Marcel.Istres: How doyou eat?
[07.10.2018 10:39:21] Black.Star: No chances for an better live. What do you think, can you become King if you want to?
[07.10.2018 10:39:40] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Ah! Once you get organisation, you will have those that are in charge and those that will have to do things to survive
[07.10.2018 10:40:36] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I don't want to become a King. and if everybody was a King, how would they all survive? It is utter madness
[07.10.2018 10:41:03] Death: Avoca-3 was put out of action by Cool.To.Hate (Gun).
[07.10.2018 10:41:18] Black.Star: I see. But some people, for examplke the people on Amiens. They are born poor and they die poor.
[07.10.2018 10:41:28] Black.Star: They have no chance of living your life.
[07.10.2018 10:41:30] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So, you want to become King, do you?
[07.10.2018 10:41:42] Black.Star: Being rich, having a job etc.
[07.10.2018 10:41:55] Black.Star: I do not want to be king. I want to get rid of the king.
[07.10.2018 10:42:29] GMS|Marcel.Istres: You still haven't answered the question, Monsieur. What happens if everybody became King?
[07.10.2018 10:42:35] Tip: You were a new player once. If you see someone making obvious mistakes, talk to them and help them.
[07.10.2018 10:42:42] GMS|Marcel.Istres: How would Society survive?
[07.10.2018 10:43:09] Black.Star: Than they would be on the same level. Nobody could order another king around. Instead of making billions of people a king,
[07.10.2018 10:43:20] Black.Star: we could just make one king a part of the normal people.
[07.10.2018 10:43:45] Black.Star: The society we have right now should not survive. We need many reforms for it.
[07.10.2018 10:44:17] GMS|Marcel.Istres: But a King doesn't want to cook his own food, so all the kings would die, because there is nobody to do the work.
[07.10.2018 10:44:41] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Do you fix your own Ship or do you get people to do that for you?
[07.10.2018 10:44:52] Black.Star: You don't die like this. You get creative. I learned how to cook too. A king must be willing to learn.
[07.10.2018 10:45:20] Death: Avoca-3 was put out of action by Cool.To.Hate (Gun).
[07.10.2018 10:45:36] Black.Star: I know a thing or two. But getting rid of the system doesn't mean you can't have friends who support you.
[07.10.2018 10:46:30] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Anarchy doesn't work, Monsieur. There will always be the ones that believe they should be in charge
[07.10.2018 10:47:02] Black.Star: And there will always be people like me, who love freedom more than anything else in life.
[07.10.2018 10:47:11] GMS|Marcel.Istres: You will just swap one form of control to another and the 'normal' people will still be under some form of yoke.
[07.10.2018 10:47:16] Black.Star: People like me have to make sure nobody is raising to power.
[07.10.2018 10:47:54] Black.Star: It might take many years for this change to actually work, but it has to someday.
[07.10.2018 10:48:07] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Well, Monsieur,you are an idealist, who doesn't live in the real world, but lifes on dreams
[07.10.2018 10:48:57] GMS|Marcel.Istres: And you are not in a position of Power? You are trying to force your ideals on people such as me.
[07.10.2018 10:48:58] Black.Star: I've been living in the real world for long enough to see that my people are sufferin g. And I have helped enough to get out of
[07.10.2018 10:49:00] Black.Star: it.
[07.10.2018 10:49:19] GMS|Marcel.Istres: And where did they go?
[07.10.2018 10:49:21] Death: Avoca-3 was put out of action by Cool.To.Hate (Gun).
[07.10.2018 10:49:37] Black.Star: To live free. They spread into the colonies.
[07.10.2018 10:49:52] Black.Star: But some also followed my way.
[07.10.2018 10:50:06] Black.Star: To help others get out of the system, and live free.
[07.10.2018 10:50:25] GMS|Marcel.Istres: And these Colonies don't have people in charge? *raises an eyebrow*
[07.10.2018 10:51:07] Black.Star: I didn't say they went there to follow orders. Actually, I don't know what most of them are doing. But I know, they decide what
[07.10.2018 10:51:14] Black.Star: it is they're doing.
[07.10.2018 10:51:29] GMS|Marcel.Istres: And if I don't want to do things your way? It is my choice and therefore you are happy for me?
[07.10.2018 10:51:39] Death: Avoca-3 was put out of action by [tCS]Zero (Gun).
[07.10.2018 10:52:06] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Or is it a case, that you will force me to chose your way?
[07.10.2018 10:52:19] Black.Star: That's how I should do it, isn't it? But I'm afraid most people don't see their bad position in live.
[07.10.2018 10:52:37] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Then, realistically, you are no different to te rest.
[07.10.2018 10:53:19] Black.Star: I think different on that. Ideologies can change, and are sometimes a bit unrealistic. But actions matter.
[07.10.2018 10:53:28] GMS|Marcel.Istres: You will force people to follow you ideals and therfore they are no longer free to chose
[07.10.2018 10:53:51] Black.Star: That's not exactly true.
[07.10.2018 10:54:01] Black.Star: I only free people who want to be free.
[07.10.2018 10:54:30] GMS|Marcel.Istres: And those that don't?
[07.10.2018 10:54:32] Black.Star: However, if there is a house which wants to them to supressed, I have to get them out of it.
[07.10.2018 10:54:41] Death: [tCS]Zero was put out of action by Avoca-3 (Gun).
[07.10.2018 10:55:13] Black.Star: Those who don't want to live free should let those who want to live free go.
[07.10.2018 10:55:20] Black.Star: If they don't, there is a conflict.
[07.10.2018 10:56:09] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I will not stop anybody who wants to follow your ideals, Monsieur, or anybody else's.
[07.10.2018 10:56:45] Black.Star: I think so too. You are not the person who does. But, the government is made out of such persons.
[07.10.2018 10:56:49] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I chose to work for GMS. They are good Employers and look after us
[07.10.2018 10:57:00] Death: Avoca-3 was put out of action by [tCS]Zero (Gun).
[07.10.2018 10:57:17] Black.Star: That's nice to hear, if it's true. But I was in the gallic army, and can't say the same about them.
[07.10.2018 10:57:25] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I am not the Gvernment, Monsieur.
[07.10.2018 10:57:40] Black.Star: No, that's why you are still talking to me.
[07.10.2018 10:58:01] Black.Star: But still, even if it's not fully intentional, you are a part of the supressing system.
[07.10.2018 10:59:44] Death: Avoca-3 was put out of action by [tCS]Zero (Gun).
[07.10.2018 10:59:52] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So, my freedom of what I want to do, is of no consequence?
[07.10.2018 11:00:24] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Like I said, Monsieur, you are no different to any of those who wish for power
[07.10.2018 11:00:26] Black.Star: All actions do have consequences. That's how life works. But you can choose which consequences you have to accept.
[07.10.2018 11:01:08] Black.Star: I do not wish for power, believe me. Power has lead us to this situation. Which might just be the darkest moment in human
[07.10.2018 11:01:11] Black.Star: history.
[07.10.2018 11:01:37] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Ah! So long as my ideals follow yours, I am free to do what I want? But as soon as my freedom does not agree with your
[07.10.2018 11:02:04] GMS|Marcel.Istres: ideals, I am not free to make choices? Is that the way of things?
[07.10.2018 11:02:24] Black.Star: As soon as your freedom of choice hurts someone elses, you have to step down and let them go.
[07.10.2018 11:02:40] Black.Star: You are not the problem in person, just a very small piece.
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[07.10.2018 11:03:05] Black.Star: But it's important for my work to tell people the truth about our current situation.
[07.10.2018 11:03:13] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So, it appears it is your way of tyranny and not anybody else's. Your freedom of choices doesn't appear to be very 'free'4
[07.10.2018 11:04:03] Black.Star: There ways of life which are more free than others. Not all people can live like you do.
[07.10.2018 11:04:30] Black.Star: Some people just aren't made to work in a system which gives them nothing.
[07.10.2018 11:04:35] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I have heard your version of truth, Monsieur, and I still like my version. So, you must respect my freedom, if what you say
[07.10.2018 11:04:40] GMS|Marcel.Istres: is true
[07.10.2018 11:04:49] Black.Star: I do respect your way of life.
[07.10.2018 11:05:13] Black.Star: But I know of many people within this nation who want to live free.
[07.10.2018 11:05:37] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I am happy for them, Monsieur
[07.10.2018 11:05:38] Black.Star: They are too many to just get them somewhere else.
[07.10.2018 11:05:55] Black.Star: Well, they want to, but they can't.
[07.10.2018 11:06:17] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Well, why don't you petition the King, then?
[07.10.2018 11:06:20] Black.Star: They are being held captured by this governement.
[07.10.2018 11:06:42] Black.Star: The king doesn't care for the little voices of the nation.
[07.10.2018 11:07:04] Black.Star: If someone speaks up to tghe governement, they get executed.
[07.10.2018 11:07:12] Black.Star: And another takes their place.
[07.10.2018 11:07:32] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I am but a small cog in the big wheels of Industry.Maybe with many voices, you can change things, peacefully
[07.10.2018 11:07:34] Black.Star: Your job might just be build on another workers death, too.
[07.10.2018 11:08:09] Black.Star: But how are you going to get many voices, if they die before they get loud?
[07.10.2018 11:08:42] Death: Avoca-3 was put out of action by [tCS]Zero (Gun).
[07.10.2018 11:08:47] Black.Star: We are not a whole nation who wants a change, but rather a small groub of freedom fighters who do not fear death.
[07.10.2018 11:09:17] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Well, maybe someone should talk to them, so that they all talk at the same time and not as individuals
[07.10.2018 11:09:50] Black.Star: That's not that easy. They whole media gets controlled by the government.
[07.10.2018 11:10:00] Black.Star: Messages like that just get filtered out.
[07.10.2018 11:10:12] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I am sure there ways, Monsieur.
[07.10.2018 11:10:19] GMS|Marcel.Istres: are*
[07.10.2018 11:10:34] Black.Star: Yes, there might be. But I am scared I'd lead my people to death.
[07.10.2018 11:10:55] Black.Star: The king wouldn't care if it's 10 or 100.000 people who die.
[07.10.2018 11:11:31] Black.Star: His only goal is to keep his power high and the power of the nation's people low enough for them to be controlled.
[07.10.2018 11:12:33] GMS|Marcel.Istres: If your ideals are popular, you will have plenty of voices. It may take patience and a long time, but you may prevail
[07.10.2018 11:12:58] Death: [tCS]Zero suffered a self-inflicted catastrophic decompression.
[07.10.2018 11:13:21] Death: Avoca-3 suffered a self-inflicted catastrophic decompression.
[07.10.2018 11:13:24] Black.Star: I do not have that patience. Patience means time. Time means death.
[07.10.2018 11:13:47] Black.Star: Millions already died in the wars of gallia. And there is no end in sight.
[07.10.2018 11:13:56] GMS|Marcel.Istres: And sudden actions will lead to a quicker death
[07.10.2018 11:14:04] Black.Star: We are ways past that point where we could talk about the future.
[07.10.2018 11:14:37] Black.Star: Those people who are following me are willing to give their life for the sake of others.
[07.10.2018 11:15:10] Black.Star: But most people do not want to give their life for the interests of a few, rich politicians.
[07.10.2018 11:15:25] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So, you still haven't told me what your intentions are, except maybe to not get killed
[07.10.2018 11:15:51] Black.Star: I want the people of Gallia to be free. Right now, they aren't.
[07.10.2018 11:16:26] Black.Star: They are not allowed to leave, nor to do what they want to do, think what they want to think or talk what they want to say.
[07.10.2018 11:16:40] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Well, a noble cause. But different people have different ideas on what is the meaning of 'freedom'.
[07.10.2018 11:17:09] Death: Wilde.Rosalina.Romanov suffered a self-inflicted catastrophic decompression.
[07.10.2018 11:17:22] Black.Star: True, but most of them just are scared of changes.
[07.10.2018 11:17:23] Death: Avoca-3 was put out of action by [tCS]Zero (Gun).
[07.10.2018 11:17:46] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Aren't most people scared of the unknown?
[07.10.2018 11:18:05] Black.Star: They are not ready to risk anything, since they don't have much in their life. But they don't realise that their situation can'
[07.10.2018 11:18:15] Black.Star: *can't get worse.
[07.10.2018 11:18:56] GMS|Marcel.Istres: It can, they can just end up in a worse situation than they were in before.
[07.10.2018 11:19:25] Black.Star: Most people can't.
[07.10.2018 11:19:46] Black.Star: But in your worst moment of your life, you will be ready for a change.
[07.10.2018 11:19:48] GMS|Marcel.Istres: The grass always looks greener on the otherside of the fence. Once you are there, reality sets in and sometimes there is no
[07.10.2018 11:19:52] GMS|Marcel.Istres: going back
[07.10.2018 11:19:56] Black.Star: Many people are close to that moment.
[07.10.2018 11:20:34] Black.Star: Is that a reason to stay on the side you hate? Which ruins your life?
[07.10.2018 11:20:37] Death: Ksardas was put out of action by a hostile vessel.
[07.10.2018 11:20:57] Black.Star: Yes, if you try, you might fail. But if you don't try, you have failed already.
[07.10.2018 11:21:30] Death: Avoca-3 was put out of action by [tCS]Zero (Gun).
[07.10.2018 11:21:39] GMS|Marcel.Istres: If that is the case, it is just a matter of time. History is full of revolutions. In the end, most were replaced with a worse
[07.10.2018 11:21:45] GMS|Marcel.Istres: form of control
[07.10.2018 11:22:33] Black.Star: Yes, we humans have a sad story to tell.
[07.10.2018 11:22:57] Black.Star: But those revolutions had to happen anyways. People will, as you said, always desire what they don't have.
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[07.10.2018 11:23:15] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Always be careful for what you wish, because when you get it, it is sometimes too late to go back
[07.10.2018 11:23:20] Black.Star: In this time, it's the freedom of choice which gets supressed.
[07.10.2018 11:23:45] Black.Star: I am not scared of what will come. I am confident my believes are true.
[07.10.2018 11:24:17] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Don't you suppress people's freedom of choice?
[07.10.2018 11:24:38] Black.Star: Sometimes the goal is more important than the way.
[07.10.2018 11:25:08] Black.Star: I am not an angel. Quite the opposite. But I believe that what I do is going to help us in the future.
[07.10.2018 11:25:28] /time
[07.10.2018 11:25:28] 2018-10-07 11:25:29 SMT
[07.10.2018 11:26:15] Death: [tCS]Zero was put out of action by Avoca-3 (Gun).
[07.10.2018 11:26:48] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Ah! So, you justify your ways by believing you know better than other people?
[07.10.2018 11:27:13] Black.Star: That are some hard words, but they have much truth in them.
[07.10.2018 11:27:24] Black.Star: I've seen what people like you didn't see.
[07.10.2018 11:27:53] Black.Star: And what I have seen is a big suffering in all colonies of Sirius and Gallia.
[07.10.2018 11:28:02] GMS|Marcel.Istres: And isn't that the way of tyrants?
[07.10.2018 11:28:41] Black.Star: There is not a too big difference between a tyrrant and an revolutionist. But the goals are which matter.
[07.10.2018 11:28:52] GMS|Marcel.Istres: All believe they know better than the rest, and therefore they belive they should be in charge
[07.10.2018 11:29:03] Black.Star: And wheter you fight for your own benefit or for all people.
[07.10.2018 11:29:43] Black.Star: I don't think I should have power over others. I also don't think I know better than everyone else.
[07.10.2018 11:30:05] Black.Star: But if you have a solution to end the suffering quick and effective, let me know.
[07.10.2018 11:30:34] Black.Star: I am not going this way because I want to hurt people. There is just no other solution for me.
[07.10.2018 11:30:39] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Well, you just told me you 'see' things that 'people like me' don't and therefore you know better.
[07.10.2018 11:31:28] Black.Star: Yes. I doubt you saw all the suffering on Planet Leeds. Or in Languedoc during the first and second gallic war.
[07.10.2018 11:31:53] GMS|Marcel.Istres: And thereby you 'justify' what you do, to yourself and others. This allows you to sleep well at night, because the ends
[07.10.2018 11:32:05] GMS|Marcel.Istres: justify the means
[07.10.2018 11:32:49] Black.Star: I am not telling myself any lies. What I do is bad and cruel. But I belive in a greater future for our civilisation.
[07.10.2018 11:33:12] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Leeds belonged to Bretonia, so, no, I wouldn't have 'seen' what was happening
[07.10.2018 11:33:32] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So the ends do justify the means?
[07.10.2018 11:33:50] Black.Star: In this particular situation, yes.
[07.10.2018 11:33:53] GMS|Marcel.Istres: As long as they are your ends and means?
[07.10.2018 11:34:18] Black.Star: It's not what I want. It's what many want. But can't ever have.
[07.10.2018 11:34:40] Black.Star: Believe me, if I was alone with this idea, I would have stayed quiet.
[07.10.2018 11:34:54] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So you believe?
[07.10.2018 11:35:07] Black.Star: Believe in what?
[07.10.2018 11:35:50] GMS|Marcel.Istres: That many want this. How many is many, is yet to be discussed
[07.10.2018 11:36:15] Black.Star: I have no exact numbers.
[07.10.2018 11:36:58] Black.Star: You're right, maybe there is a large group of people who disagrees with me.
[07.10.2018 11:36:59] GMS|Marcel.Istres: 10, 20, 200, 2000, 100,000, 1000000, 5000000?
[07.10.2018 11:37:20] Black.Star: Maybe it is even the majority. But still, all people matter.
[07.10.2018 11:37:38] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I never asked for an exact number, an approximate number would do
[07.10.2018 11:37:59] Black.Star: I can't count thoughts. I can only can count people who tell me they believe in my cause.
[07.10.2018 11:38:09] Black.Star: But those aren't as much as you'd like to hear.
[07.10.2018 11:38:23] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Ok, so what is that number, Monsieur?
[07.10.2018 11:38:25] Black.Star: Of course I'm not well known either...
[07.10.2018 11:38:38] Black.Star: A few hundred maybe.
[07.10.2018 11:38:57] Black.Star: By the way, I am a madame. But don't worry about it.
[07.10.2018 11:39:08] GMS|Marcel.Istres: In a population of billions, Monsieur, that isn't very many
[07.10.2018 11:39:13] /time
[07.10.2018 11:39:13] 2018-10-07 11:39:15 SMT
[07.10.2018 11:39:27] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Sorry , Mademoiselle
[07.10.2018 11:39:34] Black.Star: Indeed. But how many of these billions have ever heard my name?
[07.10.2018 11:40:03] Black.Star: I am not quite the well known prophet I'd like to be.
[07.10.2018 11:40:28] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So your couple of hundred can't get a ship and escape?
[07.10.2018 11:41:09] Black.Star: I got most of them out already. But they also know people who need to be evacuated. It's not that easy.
[07.10.2018 11:41:49] GMS|Marcel.Istres: And you are telling me that you are a Revolutionary for a great Revolution of a couple of hundred people. And you claim
[07.10.2018 11:41:54] Black.Star: And if they leave, e.g. the army or navy, they have to take their families with them, or else they will be threatened.
[07.10.2018 11:42:08] GMS|Marcel.Istres: to know the thoughts of the other billions?
[07.10.2018 11:42:38] Black.Star: We know what many people here think. They are just not ready to fight for it.
[07.10.2018 11:42:59] /time
[07.10.2018 11:42:59] 2018-10-07 11:43:00 SMT
[07.10.2018 11:43:19] Rules Tip: Pirates can issue only one cargo or monetary demand per encounter. Telling the trader to stop is not a demand, however, if they ignore the request, they can be shot down without issuing further demands.
[07.10.2018 11:43:31] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So, in reality, just because you have found some like minded people, you know what is best for the rest of Gallia?
[07.10.2018 11:44:21] Black.Star: I have been in all colonies. In all colonies there are many people who supported me, but couldn't risk to stand up to their
[07.10.2018 11:44:23] Black.Star: supressor.
[07.10.2018 11:44:32] GMS|Marcel.Istres: If I was you, Mademoiselle, I would rethink your strategy. You want everything at once and not prepared to take time
[07.10.2018 11:44:43] GMS|Marcel.Istres: and build on things
[07.10.2018 11:44:44] Black.Star: But I have nothing to lose in life. Now It's about me to make their wishes come true.
[07.10.2018 11:44:59] Black.Star: I do not have that time.
[07.10.2018 11:45:02] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Colonies?
[07.10.2018 11:45:09] Black.Star: Time is what makes people accept their suffering.
[07.10.2018 11:45:25] GMS|Marcel.Istres: And haste gets you mistakes
[07.10.2018 11:45:29] Black.Star: Yes, Rheinland, Bretonia, you know, there where humnas live.
[07.10.2018 11:45:48] Black.Star: I am ready to accept mistakes to end the suffering.
[07.10.2018 11:45:53] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Why are you worried about Bretonia and Reinland?
[07.10.2018 11:46:06] Black.Star: I am worried about all people.
[07.10.2018 11:46:09] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Mistakes can get people killed
[07.10.2018 11:46:30] Black.Star: We have to forget our differences and work together for a better future.
[07.10.2018 11:46:54] Black.Star: The lifes of few are worth the wellbeing of many.
[07.10.2018 11:47:09] GMS|Marcel.Istres: You must accept that you cannot safe the Universe, Mademoiselle, it is just too big
[07.10.2018 11:47:26] GMS|Marcel.Istres: save*
[07.10.2018 11:47:40] Black.Star: I will try to save it. Giving up also won't get us any further.
[07.10.2018 11:48:02] Black.Star: Even if I die because of this, at least I died while trying to help others.
[07.10.2018 11:48:29] GMS|Marcel.Istres: It would take many life times, and that is even if people, in the majority, were willing to go along with you
[07.10.2018 11:49:07] Death: Unknown_Soldier was put out of action by a hostile vessel.
[07.10.2018 11:49:08] Black.Star: We have to start somewhere. Maybe, if my time has come, I have someone who shares my believes and can replace me.
[07.10.2018 11:49:41] Black.Star: But I wouldn't want to live any day longer without having tried it.
[07.10.2018 11:49:45] /time
[07.10.2018 11:49:45] 2018-10-07 11:49:47 SMT
[07.10.2018 11:50:10] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I thought you said you had many that shared your believes?
[07.10.2018 11:50:35] GMS|Marcel.Istres: That they had already scaped?
[07.10.2018 11:50:38] Black.Star: Choosing a leader for such a movement is not an easy decision.
[07.10.2018 11:50:54] Black.Star: Believes are not the only thing that matters.
[07.10.2018 11:51:19] Black.Star: They need to have tactical and political understand, and a way to motivate people.
[07.10.2018 11:51:48] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I am sure, with your ideals of freedom, choosing a Leader should be easy?
[07.10.2018 11:51:53] Black.Star: That is something you don't easily find in many people.
[07.10.2018 11:52:13] Black.Star: No. It's not.
[07.10.2018 11:52:34] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Why not?
[07.10.2018 11:52:59] Black.Star: If you choose the wrong person, we will not have success, or even worse, all die for nothing.
[07.10.2018 11:53:22] Black.Star: Only a good, experienced leader can choose the right decisions in such a dark time.
[07.10.2018 11:54:08] GMS|Marcel.Istres: But with ideals of 'freedom of action' each can do what they want, so why do you need a Leader?
[07.10.2018 11:54:55] Black.Star: The free people will not need a leader. But we need organisation to really change anything.
[07.10.2018 11:55:28] Black.Star: If we would all go somehwere and try to change the world, we would fall one by one.
[07.10.2018 11:55:29] CONSOLE: Possible cheating detected: GMS|Parfum.du.Ile
[07.10.2018 11:55:37] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Ah! So, this is were the 'freedom' goes out the window and someone gives orders?
[07.10.2018 11:56:14] Black.Star: It's not like that. We still have a free will.
[07.10.2018 11:56:44] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So your Leader gives and order and the rest just do what they want?
[07.10.2018 11:56:47] Black.Star: We can go anytime we want. But if we want our dreams to become true, we need to be organized and powerful.
[07.10.2018 11:57:05] GMS|Marcel.Istres: an*
[07.10.2018 11:57:18] Black.Star: The revolution takes orders. The free people enjoy their freedom.
[07.10.2018 11:57:21] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Not sure that will work
[07.10.2018 11:57:31] Black.Star: We are nothing but the tool of the free people to change things.
[07.10.2018 11:57:46] Black.Star: You can't know unless you try, right?
[07.10.2018 11:57:50] GMS|Marcel.Istres: But are the people part of the Revolution?
[07.10.2018 11:58:19] Black.Star: Those who choose to, yes. Those who just where victims of the houses and decide to live free somewhere else, no.
[07.10.2018 11:58:41] Black.Star: We accept anyone's lifestyle.
[07.10.2018 11:58:46] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Trying is good, but you need to look at the finer points, sometimes, as they can get in the way
[07.10.2018 11:58:49] Black.Star: Unless it harms others.
[07.10.2018 11:59:22] Black.Star: Well, that will all follow. We can't plan for decades.
[07.10.2018 11:59:34] Black.Star: Too many things change with time.
[07.10.2018 11:59:59] GMS|Marcel.Istres: You can't have 'freedom of choice' when someone gives an order. If you do, things will just fall apart
[07.10.2018 12:00:42] Black.Star: Nobody gives free people orders. If you're talking about the revolution, those people chose to not be entirely free for the
[07.10.2018 12:00:55] Black.Star: sake of other people's freedom.
[07.10.2018 12:01:09] GMS|Marcel.Istres: It sounds all great, but in reality, it just isn'tgoing to work
[07.10.2018 12:01:20] Black.Star: Why do you think so?
[07.10.2018 12:01:28] Death: Unknown_Soldier was put out of action by a hostile vessel.
[07.10.2018 12:02:09] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So, you are all for 'Freedom of choice' except when people cab 'chose' to give up that Freedom?
[07.10.2018 12:02:18] GMS|Marcel.Istres: can*
[07.10.2018 12:02:47] Black.Star: It is temporary. But when our day of victory has come, we will all be free.
[07.10.2018 12:02:58] Black.Star: There will be no need for orders anymore.
[07.10.2018 12:03:03] GMS|Marcel.Istres: And when they 'chose' to give up that 'freedom' they must do what they are told?
[07.10.2018 12:03:36] Tip: To interact with other players, open up your Chat Window (default button Y). The default chat type for all players is LOCAL and will be visible to all players currently on your scanner. You can privately message another player by selecting their name in the Chat Window.
[07.10.2018 12:03:57] Black.Star: Kind of, yes. But we are all a part of a group of people with the same ideals, and the same thoughts.
[07.10.2018 12:04:06] GMS|Marcel.Istres: If that is the case, how do you know that the people of the Houses haven't 'chosen' to give up their 'Freedom'?
[07.10.2018 12:04:18] Black.Star: There will be no orders harming our people, nor any real doubts on the orders.
[07.10.2018 12:04:58] Black.Star: Well, not all people realise what little freedom they've got.
[07.10.2018 12:05:08] GMS|Marcel.Istres: But with 'Freedom of choice' if I want to 'harm' someone, that is alright because I chose to?
[07.10.2018 12:05:19] Black.Star: Most are beeing kept under the radr with their few personal problems.
[07.10.2018 12:05:45] Black.Star: Your actions will always have consequences.
[07.10.2018 12:06:01] Black.Star: Harming people will just get yourself harmed.
[07.10.2018 12:06:04] GMS|Marcel.Istres: But what happened to my freedom of choice?
[07.10.2018 12:06:08] Black.Star: If not your body, then your soul.
[07.10.2018 12:06:30] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So freedom of choice has boundaries?
[07.10.2018 12:06:33] Black.Star: You still have it. There are just good ideas and bad ideas. You can do both of them.
[07.10.2018 12:06:44] Black.Star: No. It has consequences.
[07.10.2018 12:06:50] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Who decides what is good and bad?
[07.10.2018 12:07:15] Black.Star: Your own morale, and the morale of the person you are interacting with.
[07.10.2018 12:07:29] Black.Star: I won't play the judge for those conflicts.
[07.10.2018 12:07:43] Death: bert was put out of action by Unknown_Soldier (Gun).
[07.10.2018 12:07:54] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So who decides if my decision to harm someone was good or bad?
[07.10.2018 12:08:21] Black.Star: You do that. And the person who got harmed.
[07.10.2018 12:08:49] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Well, if I kill someone, that is fine because he can't decide, anyway
[07.10.2018 12:09:08] Black.Star: I'm sure he wouldn't like to be killed though.
[07.10.2018 12:09:17] Black.Star: But yes, you killed him.
[07.10.2018 12:09:33] Black.Star: Now this person might have family, friends or a partner.
[07.10.2018 12:09:33] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Well, by that time, he is beyond caring
[07.10.2018 12:09:53] Black.Star: Now it's up to them to decide what consequences your actions should have.
[07.10.2018 12:10:19] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So it will come down to who has the most friends?
[07.10.2018 12:10:36] Black.Star: While I see that this might lead to a lot of trouble, we have to trust in people good will.
[07.10.2018 12:10:59] Black.Star: Yes. Now imagine if you were about to kill me.
[07.10.2018 12:11:13] GMS|Marcel.Istres: *laughs* People's goodwill? That is why we have the Systems we do now!
[07.10.2018 12:11:19] Black.Star: Who would come for revenge for me? A few houndred? Doubt it, maybe one.
[07.10.2018 12:11:39] Black.Star: But if I would kill you right now, who would be after me?
[07.10.2018 12:12:07] Black.Star: All your paid friends of the police, navy and so on. Only because you have an idelogy that fits in the system.
[07.10.2018 12:12:21] GMS|Marcel.Istres: people are greedy, self centred and all the other things. It would come down to 'might is right' very quickly
[07.10.2018 12:12:50] Black.Star: People are over this, I believe. They know from what they suffered.
[07.10.2018 12:13:42] GMS|Marcel.Istres: We have systems of Justice. You need to let them solve the problems. You can't let people to chose their own Justice
[07.10.2018 12:14:02] GMS|Marcel.Istres: or otherwise might is right and anarchy will prevail
[07.10.2018 12:14:33] Black.Star: But how can the "Justice" decide to take another's life? They have played god for long enough!
[07.10.2018 12:15:04] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So you are letting the one with the most friends play god?
[07.10.2018 12:15:49] Black.Star: No. That's not how it's supposed to be. People should live free, without the usual problems in the houses.
[07.10.2018 12:16:09] Black.Star: Crimes such as murder, robbery and so on would happen more rarely.
[07.10.2018 12:16:37] Black.Star: People become criminal because of problems, not boredom.
[07.10.2018 12:16:41] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Maybe in your Ideal World, that is not how it is supposed to be, but that is actually what will happen.
[07.10.2018 12:17:14] Black.Star: I don't think it will come to this.
[07.10.2018 12:17:55] GMS|Marcel.Istres: People are greedy and selfish. If they weren't we wouldn't be having the problems you are wanting to run away from
[07.10.2018 12:18:27] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So what makes you think people will suddenly change?
[07.10.2018 12:18:57] Black.Star: It is the greed, which we declared war on. The people we are trying to free are used to not having much. If they get to a highe
[07.10.2018 12:19:38] Black.Star: -r standard of living, they will be more supporting for our ideals and might forget their desire for being better than others.
[07.10.2018 12:20:27] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So you really believe rich people don't commit crimes? *looks incredulous*
[07.10.2018 12:21:28] Black.Star: I surely believe rich people have a better chance for a life without crimes.
[07.10.2018 12:21:48] Black.Star: But anyone has to choose for themselves. That is what freedom is about.
[07.10.2018 12:22:07] Black.Star: We only give them a basic opportunity for a good life. Something they don't get here.
[07.10.2018 12:22:42] GMS|Marcel.Istres: You will just swap the problems from one group to another.
[07.10.2018 12:23:28] Black.Star: Society will no longer be divided in different groups. With the fall of the system, capitalism will also fall.
[07.10.2018 12:23:38] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Your ideals are good in principle, but the biggest problem you have with them is............................people.
[07.10.2018 12:23:42] Black.Star: People will be all the same, but free.
[07.10.2018 12:23:53] Rules Tip: Pirates need to keep their demands reasonable. Cargo and Monetary demands that exceed the maximum profit of a trader are viewed as unreasonable. ''Empty'' traders are not excempt from piracy, but the demands asked from them should reflect this.
[07.10.2018 12:24:25] Black.Star: Maybe you are right. But I also can't let those who need my help suffer, just for the sake of those who were born in a better
[07.10.2018 12:24:27] Black.Star: world.
[07.10.2018 12:24:53] Death: Explorador was put out of action by a hostile vessel.
[07.10.2018 12:24:57] GMS|Marcel.Istres: But it will soon lead to who is the strongest/has the most friends will take control
[07.10.2018 12:25:36] Black.Star: If something like that is about to happen, people will unite and fight those tyrrants.
[07.10.2018 12:26:00] Black.Star: Once we have the freedom, we only have to protect.
[07.10.2018 12:26:22] Black.Star: I don't say that will be easy, but it is the only chance we have to keep it.
[07.10.2018 12:27:10] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I would, if I was you, concentrate on your friends and keep you community small.
[07.10.2018 12:27:22] GMS|Marcel.Istres: your*
[07.10.2018 12:27:53] Black.Star: Well, there is no other way anyways. What we are doing will most likely cost all our lives.
[07.10.2018 12:28:11] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Not if you are clever about it
[07.10.2018 12:28:13] Black.Star: So getting the majority to fight for our cause will be almost impossible.
[07.10.2018 12:28:33] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I would say so.
[07.10.2018 12:28:47] Black.Star: Even if we are clever, we can't be risk free without giving up our dreams.
[07.10.2018 12:29:45] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Save the ones you can and worry about the rest later once you have a plan
[07.10.2018 12:29:48] Black.Star: Guess it's time for me to leave.
[07.10.2018 12:30:03] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Bonjour
[07.10.2018 12:30:05] Black.Star: It was nice meeting you, monsieur. May I know your name?
[07.10.2018 12:30:06] Guardian.of.Gallia: bettter leave Mister pirate .
[07.10.2018 12:30:35] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Mon name is Marcel, Mademoiselle
[07.10.2018 12:30:49] Black.Star: Claire. Claire Delune. Nice to meet you.
[07.10.2018 12:31:02] Black.Star: Thank you for the talk.
[07.10.2018 12:31:11] Black.Star: We sure will see each other again.
[07.10.2018 12:31:33] Guardian.of.Gallia: if you come back i kill you
[07.10.2018 12:31:56] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Au revoir, Mademoiselle Delune
[07.10.2018 12:32:03] Black.Star: To protect the the traders freedom, I know.
[07.10.2018 12:32:26] Black.Star: Think about my words, Marcel. Until another time.
[07.10.2018 10:20:52] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Bonjour
[07.10.2018 10:21:21] Black.Star: Again one of the miners. Again without ore? Is the business so bad?
[07.10.2018 10:21:45] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Pardon? I am not a Miner
[07.10.2018 10:22:10] Black.Star: I know, but you are a part of le roi's metal service.
[07.10.2018 10:22:20] Rules Tip: Do not threaten a player with reports or sanctions. If you see someone breaking server rules - help them. If that does not work - report them to the administration team on the Forums.
[07.10.2018 10:22:44] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I am a Worker of the Gallic Metal Service, oui
[07.10.2018 10:22:44] Black.Star: And you guys are supposed to haul the valuable stuff.
[07.10.2018 10:23:18] GMS|Marcel.Istres: It all depends on what our manifest tells to haul
[07.10.2018 10:23:49] Black.Star: Hmm. I wouldn't want to trade lives with you. Must be boring...
[07.10.2018 10:24:33] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I am happy with my life, Monsieur
[07.10.2018 10:24:51] Black.Star: Good for you, then.
[07.10.2018 10:25:11] Black.Star: So, what does your manifest tells you to do today?
[07.10.2018 10:25:45] Death: Nitro was divided by zero.
[07.10.2018 10:26:05] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Well, today, I am to supply Food, Oxygen and Water to certain places
[07.10.2018 10:26:21] Black.Star: Hmm. That's a tough one for me then.
[07.10.2018 10:26:44] GMS|Marcel.Istres: And why would that be a problem, Monsieur?
[07.10.2018 10:26:51] Death: Badboy was put out of action by a hostile vessel.
[07.10.2018 10:26:54] Black.Star: While I don't want my fellow gallics to starve, I also can't let you support the crown anymore.
[07.10.2018 10:27:14] Black.Star: Therefore, I should hit them where it hurts.
[07.10.2018 10:27:34] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Support the Crown? *looks puzzled*
[07.10.2018 10:28:02] Black.Star: You supply their men, you pay taxes... That's already support.
[07.10.2018 10:28:15] Black.Star: And I don't want y<ou to support them.
[07.10.2018 10:28:27] GMS|Marcel.Istres: If you say so. People need to eat
[07.10.2018 10:29:03] Black.Star: They do indeed... But those people's actions are wrong. I'm afraid there is no other way to stop them.
[07.10.2018 10:29:20] GMS|Marcel.Istres: It is wrong to eat?
[07.10.2018 10:29:49] Black.Star: It is wrong to support a house which enslaves their population sends young people to hell!
[07.10.2018 10:30:48] GMS|Marcel.Istres: It is my Home, Monsieur. I cannot just stop supplying the essentials, just because you think it is wrong
[07.10.2018 10:31:06] Death: Badboy was put out of action by a hostile vessel.
[07.10.2018 10:31:33] Black.Star: This is my home, too. But I saw what's going wrong in here. Maybe you indeed can't see it like this. But you are still a piece
[07.10.2018 10:31:49] Black.Star: of the evil in this house. Even if you help the people.
[07.10.2018 10:32:28] GMS|Marcel.Istres: If you say so, Monsieur. People are not evil, they live their lives to the best that they can do
[07.10.2018 10:33:13] Black.Star: They don't see the evil things their house is doing to them. Did you never want to live free, without anyone telling you what
[07.10.2018 10:33:17] Black.Star: to think or do?
[07.10.2018 10:34:11] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I have a Job, Monsieur. Part of that Job is doing what I am told, if it wasn't so, anarchy would prevail.
[07.10.2018 10:34:41] GMS|Marcel.Istres: People would starve, things would break and not get fixed.
[07.10.2018 10:34:51] Black.Star: Law and order hasn't benifit humantiy so far. We are going from one crysis to another.
[07.10.2018 10:35:03] GMS|Marcel.Istres: You have to have a semblance of order
[07.10.2018 10:35:31] Black.Star: You get raised with nothing but war and evil in your mind. Rarely any of the Royal Navy's pilots gets older than 30.
[07.10.2018 10:36:03] Black.Star: What we are doing here has no meaning after all. We just try to find a reason to eliminate our own species.
[07.10.2018 10:36:29] Black.Star: And every politician, every trader, every tax payer is a part of this crysis.
[07.10.2018 10:36:40] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I am evil, Monsieur. I am not was like, I just do my job and life my life.
[07.10.2018 10:37:06] GMS|Marcel.Istres: And what is your solution?
[07.10.2018 10:37:16] GMS|Marcel.Istres: To this............crisis?
[07.10.2018 10:37:40] Black.Star: We have to stop the governments of the houses, so people can all live free.
[07.10.2018 10:37:53] Black.Star: They are the one who profit from other people's death.
[07.10.2018 10:37:53] GMS|Marcel.Istres: And do what?
[07.10.2018 10:38:22] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So, who supplies the food, if everybody can do what they want?
[07.10.2018 10:38:33] Black.Star: Whatever they want to do. They don't have to follow orders or live in a corrupt system which offers them no chances.
[07.10.2018 10:38:44] Death: Avoca-3 was put out of action by Cool.To.Hate (Gun).
[07.10.2018 10:38:48] GMS|Marcel.Istres: No chances for what, Monsieur?
[07.10.2018 10:38:57] Black.Star: The people will have to organize that on their own.
[07.10.2018 10:39:00] GMS|Marcel.Istres: How doyou eat?
[07.10.2018 10:39:21] Black.Star: No chances for an better live. What do you think, can you become King if you want to?
[07.10.2018 10:39:40] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Ah! Once you get organisation, you will have those that are in charge and those that will have to do things to survive
[07.10.2018 10:40:36] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I don't want to become a King. and if everybody was a King, how would they all survive? It is utter madness
[07.10.2018 10:41:03] Death: Avoca-3 was put out of action by Cool.To.Hate (Gun).
[07.10.2018 10:41:18] Black.Star: I see. But some people, for examplke the people on Amiens. They are born poor and they die poor.
[07.10.2018 10:41:28] Black.Star: They have no chance of living your life.
[07.10.2018 10:41:30] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So, you want to become King, do you?
[07.10.2018 10:41:42] Black.Star: Being rich, having a job etc.
[07.10.2018 10:41:55] Black.Star: I do not want to be king. I want to get rid of the king.
[07.10.2018 10:42:29] GMS|Marcel.Istres: You still haven't answered the question, Monsieur. What happens if everybody became King?
[07.10.2018 10:42:35] Tip: You were a new player once. If you see someone making obvious mistakes, talk to them and help them.
[07.10.2018 10:42:42] GMS|Marcel.Istres: How would Society survive?
[07.10.2018 10:43:09] Black.Star: Than they would be on the same level. Nobody could order another king around. Instead of making billions of people a king,
[07.10.2018 10:43:20] Black.Star: we could just make one king a part of the normal people.
[07.10.2018 10:43:45] Black.Star: The society we have right now should not survive. We need many reforms for it.
[07.10.2018 10:44:17] GMS|Marcel.Istres: But a King doesn't want to cook his own food, so all the kings would die, because there is nobody to do the work.
[07.10.2018 10:44:41] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Do you fix your own Ship or do you get people to do that for you?
[07.10.2018 10:44:52] Black.Star: You don't die like this. You get creative. I learned how to cook too. A king must be willing to learn.
[07.10.2018 10:45:20] Death: Avoca-3 was put out of action by Cool.To.Hate (Gun).
[07.10.2018 10:45:36] Black.Star: I know a thing or two. But getting rid of the system doesn't mean you can't have friends who support you.
[07.10.2018 10:46:30] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Anarchy doesn't work, Monsieur. There will always be the ones that believe they should be in charge
[07.10.2018 10:47:02] Black.Star: And there will always be people like me, who love freedom more than anything else in life.
[07.10.2018 10:47:11] GMS|Marcel.Istres: You will just swap one form of control to another and the 'normal' people will still be under some form of yoke.
[07.10.2018 10:47:16] Black.Star: People like me have to make sure nobody is raising to power.
[07.10.2018 10:47:54] Black.Star: It might take many years for this change to actually work, but it has to someday.
[07.10.2018 10:48:07] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Well, Monsieur,you are an idealist, who doesn't live in the real world, but lifes on dreams
[07.10.2018 10:48:57] GMS|Marcel.Istres: And you are not in a position of Power? You are trying to force your ideals on people such as me.
[07.10.2018 10:48:58] Black.Star: I've been living in the real world for long enough to see that my people are sufferin g. And I have helped enough to get out of
[07.10.2018 10:49:00] Black.Star: it.
[07.10.2018 10:49:19] GMS|Marcel.Istres: And where did they go?
[07.10.2018 10:49:21] Death: Avoca-3 was put out of action by Cool.To.Hate (Gun).
[07.10.2018 10:49:37] Black.Star: To live free. They spread into the colonies.
[07.10.2018 10:49:52] Black.Star: But some also followed my way.
[07.10.2018 10:50:06] Black.Star: To help others get out of the system, and live free.
[07.10.2018 10:50:25] GMS|Marcel.Istres: And these Colonies don't have people in charge? *raises an eyebrow*
[07.10.2018 10:51:07] Black.Star: I didn't say they went there to follow orders. Actually, I don't know what most of them are doing. But I know, they decide what
[07.10.2018 10:51:14] Black.Star: it is they're doing.
[07.10.2018 10:51:29] GMS|Marcel.Istres: And if I don't want to do things your way? It is my choice and therefore you are happy for me?
[07.10.2018 10:51:39] Death: Avoca-3 was put out of action by [tCS]Zero (Gun).
[07.10.2018 10:52:06] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Or is it a case, that you will force me to chose your way?
[07.10.2018 10:52:19] Black.Star: That's how I should do it, isn't it? But I'm afraid most people don't see their bad position in live.
[07.10.2018 10:52:37] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Then, realistically, you are no different to te rest.
[07.10.2018 10:53:19] Black.Star: I think different on that. Ideologies can change, and are sometimes a bit unrealistic. But actions matter.
[07.10.2018 10:53:28] GMS|Marcel.Istres: You will force people to follow you ideals and therfore they are no longer free to chose
[07.10.2018 10:53:51] Black.Star: That's not exactly true.
[07.10.2018 10:54:01] Black.Star: I only free people who want to be free.
[07.10.2018 10:54:30] GMS|Marcel.Istres: And those that don't?
[07.10.2018 10:54:32] Black.Star: However, if there is a house which wants to them to supressed, I have to get them out of it.
[07.10.2018 10:54:41] Death: [tCS]Zero was put out of action by Avoca-3 (Gun).
[07.10.2018 10:55:13] Black.Star: Those who don't want to live free should let those who want to live free go.
[07.10.2018 10:55:20] Black.Star: If they don't, there is a conflict.
[07.10.2018 10:56:09] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I will not stop anybody who wants to follow your ideals, Monsieur, or anybody else's.
[07.10.2018 10:56:45] Black.Star: I think so too. You are not the person who does. But, the government is made out of such persons.
[07.10.2018 10:56:49] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I chose to work for GMS. They are good Employers and look after us
[07.10.2018 10:57:00] Death: Avoca-3 was put out of action by [tCS]Zero (Gun).
[07.10.2018 10:57:17] Black.Star: That's nice to hear, if it's true. But I was in the gallic army, and can't say the same about them.
[07.10.2018 10:57:25] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I am not the Gvernment, Monsieur.
[07.10.2018 10:57:40] Black.Star: No, that's why you are still talking to me.
[07.10.2018 10:58:01] Black.Star: But still, even if it's not fully intentional, you are a part of the supressing system.
[07.10.2018 10:59:44] Death: Avoca-3 was put out of action by [tCS]Zero (Gun).
[07.10.2018 10:59:52] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So, my freedom of what I want to do, is of no consequence?
[07.10.2018 11:00:24] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Like I said, Monsieur, you are no different to any of those who wish for power
[07.10.2018 11:00:26] Black.Star: All actions do have consequences. That's how life works. But you can choose which consequences you have to accept.
[07.10.2018 11:01:08] Black.Star: I do not wish for power, believe me. Power has lead us to this situation. Which might just be the darkest moment in human
[07.10.2018 11:01:11] Black.Star: history.
[07.10.2018 11:01:37] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Ah! So long as my ideals follow yours, I am free to do what I want? But as soon as my freedom does not agree with your
[07.10.2018 11:02:04] GMS|Marcel.Istres: ideals, I am not free to make choices? Is that the way of things?
[07.10.2018 11:02:24] Black.Star: As soon as your freedom of choice hurts someone elses, you have to step down and let them go.
[07.10.2018 11:02:40] Black.Star: You are not the problem in person, just a very small piece.
[07.10.2018 11:02:49] Tip: Are you a new player? Discovery Freelancer is not the easiest game to get your head around. If you have any questions of any kind, do not feel discouraged or embarrassed to ask them on our forum or simply approach other players for help.
[07.10.2018 11:03:05] Black.Star: But it's important for my work to tell people the truth about our current situation.
[07.10.2018 11:03:13] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So, it appears it is your way of tyranny and not anybody else's. Your freedom of choices doesn't appear to be very 'free'4
[07.10.2018 11:04:03] Black.Star: There ways of life which are more free than others. Not all people can live like you do.
[07.10.2018 11:04:30] Black.Star: Some people just aren't made to work in a system which gives them nothing.
[07.10.2018 11:04:35] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I have heard your version of truth, Monsieur, and I still like my version. So, you must respect my freedom, if what you say
[07.10.2018 11:04:40] GMS|Marcel.Istres: is true
[07.10.2018 11:04:49] Black.Star: I do respect your way of life.
[07.10.2018 11:05:13] Black.Star: But I know of many people within this nation who want to live free.
[07.10.2018 11:05:37] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I am happy for them, Monsieur
[07.10.2018 11:05:38] Black.Star: They are too many to just get them somewhere else.
[07.10.2018 11:05:55] Black.Star: Well, they want to, but they can't.
[07.10.2018 11:06:17] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Well, why don't you petition the King, then?
[07.10.2018 11:06:20] Black.Star: They are being held captured by this governement.
[07.10.2018 11:06:42] Black.Star: The king doesn't care for the little voices of the nation.
[07.10.2018 11:07:04] Black.Star: If someone speaks up to tghe governement, they get executed.
[07.10.2018 11:07:12] Black.Star: And another takes their place.
[07.10.2018 11:07:32] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I am but a small cog in the big wheels of Industry.Maybe with many voices, you can change things, peacefully
[07.10.2018 11:07:34] Black.Star: Your job might just be build on another workers death, too.
[07.10.2018 11:08:09] Black.Star: But how are you going to get many voices, if they die before they get loud?
[07.10.2018 11:08:42] Death: Avoca-3 was put out of action by [tCS]Zero (Gun).
[07.10.2018 11:08:47] Black.Star: We are not a whole nation who wants a change, but rather a small groub of freedom fighters who do not fear death.
[07.10.2018 11:09:17] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Well, maybe someone should talk to them, so that they all talk at the same time and not as individuals
[07.10.2018 11:09:50] Black.Star: That's not that easy. They whole media gets controlled by the government.
[07.10.2018 11:10:00] Black.Star: Messages like that just get filtered out.
[07.10.2018 11:10:12] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I am sure there ways, Monsieur.
[07.10.2018 11:10:19] GMS|Marcel.Istres: are*
[07.10.2018 11:10:34] Black.Star: Yes, there might be. But I am scared I'd lead my people to death.
[07.10.2018 11:10:55] Black.Star: The king wouldn't care if it's 10 or 100.000 people who die.
[07.10.2018 11:11:31] Black.Star: His only goal is to keep his power high and the power of the nation's people low enough for them to be controlled.
[07.10.2018 11:12:33] GMS|Marcel.Istres: If your ideals are popular, you will have plenty of voices. It may take patience and a long time, but you may prevail
[07.10.2018 11:12:58] Death: [tCS]Zero suffered a self-inflicted catastrophic decompression.
[07.10.2018 11:13:21] Death: Avoca-3 suffered a self-inflicted catastrophic decompression.
[07.10.2018 11:13:24] Black.Star: I do not have that patience. Patience means time. Time means death.
[07.10.2018 11:13:47] Black.Star: Millions already died in the wars of gallia. And there is no end in sight.
[07.10.2018 11:13:56] GMS|Marcel.Istres: And sudden actions will lead to a quicker death
[07.10.2018 11:14:04] Black.Star: We are ways past that point where we could talk about the future.
[07.10.2018 11:14:37] Black.Star: Those people who are following me are willing to give their life for the sake of others.
[07.10.2018 11:15:10] Black.Star: But most people do not want to give their life for the interests of a few, rich politicians.
[07.10.2018 11:15:25] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So, you still haven't told me what your intentions are, except maybe to not get killed
[07.10.2018 11:15:51] Black.Star: I want the people of Gallia to be free. Right now, they aren't.
[07.10.2018 11:16:26] Black.Star: They are not allowed to leave, nor to do what they want to do, think what they want to think or talk what they want to say.
[07.10.2018 11:16:40] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Well, a noble cause. But different people have different ideas on what is the meaning of 'freedom'.
[07.10.2018 11:17:09] Death: Wilde.Rosalina.Romanov suffered a self-inflicted catastrophic decompression.
[07.10.2018 11:17:22] Black.Star: True, but most of them just are scared of changes.
[07.10.2018 11:17:23] Death: Avoca-3 was put out of action by [tCS]Zero (Gun).
[07.10.2018 11:17:46] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Aren't most people scared of the unknown?
[07.10.2018 11:18:05] Black.Star: They are not ready to risk anything, since they don't have much in their life. But they don't realise that their situation can'
[07.10.2018 11:18:15] Black.Star: *can't get worse.
[07.10.2018 11:18:56] GMS|Marcel.Istres: It can, they can just end up in a worse situation than they were in before.
[07.10.2018 11:19:25] Black.Star: Most people can't.
[07.10.2018 11:19:46] Black.Star: But in your worst moment of your life, you will be ready for a change.
[07.10.2018 11:19:48] GMS|Marcel.Istres: The grass always looks greener on the otherside of the fence. Once you are there, reality sets in and sometimes there is no
[07.10.2018 11:19:52] GMS|Marcel.Istres: going back
[07.10.2018 11:19:56] Black.Star: Many people are close to that moment.
[07.10.2018 11:20:34] Black.Star: Is that a reason to stay on the side you hate? Which ruins your life?
[07.10.2018 11:20:37] Death: Ksardas was put out of action by a hostile vessel.
[07.10.2018 11:20:57] Black.Star: Yes, if you try, you might fail. But if you don't try, you have failed already.
[07.10.2018 11:21:30] Death: Avoca-3 was put out of action by [tCS]Zero (Gun).
[07.10.2018 11:21:39] GMS|Marcel.Istres: If that is the case, it is just a matter of time. History is full of revolutions. In the end, most were replaced with a worse
[07.10.2018 11:21:45] GMS|Marcel.Istres: form of control
[07.10.2018 11:22:33] Black.Star: Yes, we humans have a sad story to tell.
[07.10.2018 11:22:57] Black.Star: But those revolutions had to happen anyways. People will, as you said, always desire what they don't have.
[07.10.2018 11:23:04] Rules Tip: Do not run Freelancer at a framerate above 155fps - for more information on this, please visit our forums @ Discoverygc.com.
[07.10.2018 11:23:15] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Always be careful for what you wish, because when you get it, it is sometimes too late to go back
[07.10.2018 11:23:20] Black.Star: In this time, it's the freedom of choice which gets supressed.
[07.10.2018 11:23:45] Black.Star: I am not scared of what will come. I am confident my believes are true.
[07.10.2018 11:24:17] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Don't you suppress people's freedom of choice?
[07.10.2018 11:24:38] Black.Star: Sometimes the goal is more important than the way.
[07.10.2018 11:25:08] Black.Star: I am not an angel. Quite the opposite. But I believe that what I do is going to help us in the future.
[07.10.2018 11:25:28] /time
[07.10.2018 11:25:28] 2018-10-07 11:25:29 SMT
[07.10.2018 11:26:15] Death: [tCS]Zero was put out of action by Avoca-3 (Gun).
[07.10.2018 11:26:48] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Ah! So, you justify your ways by believing you know better than other people?
[07.10.2018 11:27:13] Black.Star: That are some hard words, but they have much truth in them.
[07.10.2018 11:27:24] Black.Star: I've seen what people like you didn't see.
[07.10.2018 11:27:53] Black.Star: And what I have seen is a big suffering in all colonies of Sirius and Gallia.
[07.10.2018 11:28:02] GMS|Marcel.Istres: And isn't that the way of tyrants?
[07.10.2018 11:28:41] Black.Star: There is not a too big difference between a tyrrant and an revolutionist. But the goals are which matter.
[07.10.2018 11:28:52] GMS|Marcel.Istres: All believe they know better than the rest, and therefore they belive they should be in charge
[07.10.2018 11:29:03] Black.Star: And wheter you fight for your own benefit or for all people.
[07.10.2018 11:29:43] Black.Star: I don't think I should have power over others. I also don't think I know better than everyone else.
[07.10.2018 11:30:05] Black.Star: But if you have a solution to end the suffering quick and effective, let me know.
[07.10.2018 11:30:34] Black.Star: I am not going this way because I want to hurt people. There is just no other solution for me.
[07.10.2018 11:30:39] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Well, you just told me you 'see' things that 'people like me' don't and therefore you know better.
[07.10.2018 11:31:28] Black.Star: Yes. I doubt you saw all the suffering on Planet Leeds. Or in Languedoc during the first and second gallic war.
[07.10.2018 11:31:53] GMS|Marcel.Istres: And thereby you 'justify' what you do, to yourself and others. This allows you to sleep well at night, because the ends
[07.10.2018 11:32:05] GMS|Marcel.Istres: justify the means
[07.10.2018 11:32:49] Black.Star: I am not telling myself any lies. What I do is bad and cruel. But I belive in a greater future for our civilisation.
[07.10.2018 11:33:12] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Leeds belonged to Bretonia, so, no, I wouldn't have 'seen' what was happening
[07.10.2018 11:33:32] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So the ends do justify the means?
[07.10.2018 11:33:50] Black.Star: In this particular situation, yes.
[07.10.2018 11:33:53] GMS|Marcel.Istres: As long as they are your ends and means?
[07.10.2018 11:34:18] Black.Star: It's not what I want. It's what many want. But can't ever have.
[07.10.2018 11:34:40] Black.Star: Believe me, if I was alone with this idea, I would have stayed quiet.
[07.10.2018 11:34:54] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So you believe?
[07.10.2018 11:35:07] Black.Star: Believe in what?
[07.10.2018 11:35:50] GMS|Marcel.Istres: That many want this. How many is many, is yet to be discussed
[07.10.2018 11:36:15] Black.Star: I have no exact numbers.
[07.10.2018 11:36:58] Black.Star: You're right, maybe there is a large group of people who disagrees with me.
[07.10.2018 11:36:59] GMS|Marcel.Istres: 10, 20, 200, 2000, 100,000, 1000000, 5000000?
[07.10.2018 11:37:20] Black.Star: Maybe it is even the majority. But still, all people matter.
[07.10.2018 11:37:38] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I never asked for an exact number, an approximate number would do
[07.10.2018 11:37:59] Black.Star: I can't count thoughts. I can only can count people who tell me they believe in my cause.
[07.10.2018 11:38:09] Black.Star: But those aren't as much as you'd like to hear.
[07.10.2018 11:38:23] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Ok, so what is that number, Monsieur?
[07.10.2018 11:38:25] Black.Star: Of course I'm not well known either...
[07.10.2018 11:38:38] Black.Star: A few hundred maybe.
[07.10.2018 11:38:57] Black.Star: By the way, I am a madame. But don't worry about it.
[07.10.2018 11:39:08] GMS|Marcel.Istres: In a population of billions, Monsieur, that isn't very many
[07.10.2018 11:39:13] /time
[07.10.2018 11:39:13] 2018-10-07 11:39:15 SMT
[07.10.2018 11:39:27] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Sorry , Mademoiselle
[07.10.2018 11:39:34] Black.Star: Indeed. But how many of these billions have ever heard my name?
[07.10.2018 11:40:03] Black.Star: I am not quite the well known prophet I'd like to be.
[07.10.2018 11:40:28] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So your couple of hundred can't get a ship and escape?
[07.10.2018 11:41:09] Black.Star: I got most of them out already. But they also know people who need to be evacuated. It's not that easy.
[07.10.2018 11:41:49] GMS|Marcel.Istres: And you are telling me that you are a Revolutionary for a great Revolution of a couple of hundred people. And you claim
[07.10.2018 11:41:54] Black.Star: And if they leave, e.g. the army or navy, they have to take their families with them, or else they will be threatened.
[07.10.2018 11:42:08] GMS|Marcel.Istres: to know the thoughts of the other billions?
[07.10.2018 11:42:38] Black.Star: We know what many people here think. They are just not ready to fight for it.
[07.10.2018 11:42:59] /time
[07.10.2018 11:42:59] 2018-10-07 11:43:00 SMT
[07.10.2018 11:43:19] Rules Tip: Pirates can issue only one cargo or monetary demand per encounter. Telling the trader to stop is not a demand, however, if they ignore the request, they can be shot down without issuing further demands.
[07.10.2018 11:43:31] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So, in reality, just because you have found some like minded people, you know what is best for the rest of Gallia?
[07.10.2018 11:44:21] Black.Star: I have been in all colonies. In all colonies there are many people who supported me, but couldn't risk to stand up to their
[07.10.2018 11:44:23] Black.Star: supressor.
[07.10.2018 11:44:32] GMS|Marcel.Istres: If I was you, Mademoiselle, I would rethink your strategy. You want everything at once and not prepared to take time
[07.10.2018 11:44:43] GMS|Marcel.Istres: and build on things
[07.10.2018 11:44:44] Black.Star: But I have nothing to lose in life. Now It's about me to make their wishes come true.
[07.10.2018 11:44:59] Black.Star: I do not have that time.
[07.10.2018 11:45:02] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Colonies?
[07.10.2018 11:45:09] Black.Star: Time is what makes people accept their suffering.
[07.10.2018 11:45:25] GMS|Marcel.Istres: And haste gets you mistakes
[07.10.2018 11:45:29] Black.Star: Yes, Rheinland, Bretonia, you know, there where humnas live.
[07.10.2018 11:45:48] Black.Star: I am ready to accept mistakes to end the suffering.
[07.10.2018 11:45:53] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Why are you worried about Bretonia and Reinland?
[07.10.2018 11:46:06] Black.Star: I am worried about all people.
[07.10.2018 11:46:09] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Mistakes can get people killed
[07.10.2018 11:46:30] Black.Star: We have to forget our differences and work together for a better future.
[07.10.2018 11:46:54] Black.Star: The lifes of few are worth the wellbeing of many.
[07.10.2018 11:47:09] GMS|Marcel.Istres: You must accept that you cannot safe the Universe, Mademoiselle, it is just too big
[07.10.2018 11:47:26] GMS|Marcel.Istres: save*
[07.10.2018 11:47:40] Black.Star: I will try to save it. Giving up also won't get us any further.
[07.10.2018 11:48:02] Black.Star: Even if I die because of this, at least I died while trying to help others.
[07.10.2018 11:48:29] GMS|Marcel.Istres: It would take many life times, and that is even if people, in the majority, were willing to go along with you
[07.10.2018 11:49:07] Death: Unknown_Soldier was put out of action by a hostile vessel.
[07.10.2018 11:49:08] Black.Star: We have to start somewhere. Maybe, if my time has come, I have someone who shares my believes and can replace me.
[07.10.2018 11:49:41] Black.Star: But I wouldn't want to live any day longer without having tried it.
[07.10.2018 11:49:45] /time
[07.10.2018 11:49:45] 2018-10-07 11:49:47 SMT
[07.10.2018 11:50:10] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I thought you said you had many that shared your believes?
[07.10.2018 11:50:35] GMS|Marcel.Istres: That they had already scaped?
[07.10.2018 11:50:38] Black.Star: Choosing a leader for such a movement is not an easy decision.
[07.10.2018 11:50:54] Black.Star: Believes are not the only thing that matters.
[07.10.2018 11:51:19] Black.Star: They need to have tactical and political understand, and a way to motivate people.
[07.10.2018 11:51:48] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I am sure, with your ideals of freedom, choosing a Leader should be easy?
[07.10.2018 11:51:53] Black.Star: That is something you don't easily find in many people.
[07.10.2018 11:52:13] Black.Star: No. It's not.
[07.10.2018 11:52:34] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Why not?
[07.10.2018 11:52:59] Black.Star: If you choose the wrong person, we will not have success, or even worse, all die for nothing.
[07.10.2018 11:53:22] Black.Star: Only a good, experienced leader can choose the right decisions in such a dark time.
[07.10.2018 11:54:08] GMS|Marcel.Istres: But with ideals of 'freedom of action' each can do what they want, so why do you need a Leader?
[07.10.2018 11:54:55] Black.Star: The free people will not need a leader. But we need organisation to really change anything.
[07.10.2018 11:55:28] Black.Star: If we would all go somehwere and try to change the world, we would fall one by one.
[07.10.2018 11:55:29] CONSOLE: Possible cheating detected: GMS|Parfum.du.Ile
[07.10.2018 11:55:37] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Ah! So, this is were the 'freedom' goes out the window and someone gives orders?
[07.10.2018 11:56:14] Black.Star: It's not like that. We still have a free will.
[07.10.2018 11:56:44] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So your Leader gives and order and the rest just do what they want?
[07.10.2018 11:56:47] Black.Star: We can go anytime we want. But if we want our dreams to become true, we need to be organized and powerful.
[07.10.2018 11:57:05] GMS|Marcel.Istres: an*
[07.10.2018 11:57:18] Black.Star: The revolution takes orders. The free people enjoy their freedom.
[07.10.2018 11:57:21] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Not sure that will work
[07.10.2018 11:57:31] Black.Star: We are nothing but the tool of the free people to change things.
[07.10.2018 11:57:46] Black.Star: You can't know unless you try, right?
[07.10.2018 11:57:50] GMS|Marcel.Istres: But are the people part of the Revolution?
[07.10.2018 11:58:19] Black.Star: Those who choose to, yes. Those who just where victims of the houses and decide to live free somewhere else, no.
[07.10.2018 11:58:41] Black.Star: We accept anyone's lifestyle.
[07.10.2018 11:58:46] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Trying is good, but you need to look at the finer points, sometimes, as they can get in the way
[07.10.2018 11:58:49] Black.Star: Unless it harms others.
[07.10.2018 11:59:22] Black.Star: Well, that will all follow. We can't plan for decades.
[07.10.2018 11:59:34] Black.Star: Too many things change with time.
[07.10.2018 11:59:59] GMS|Marcel.Istres: You can't have 'freedom of choice' when someone gives an order. If you do, things will just fall apart
[07.10.2018 12:00:42] Black.Star: Nobody gives free people orders. If you're talking about the revolution, those people chose to not be entirely free for the
[07.10.2018 12:00:55] Black.Star: sake of other people's freedom.
[07.10.2018 12:01:09] GMS|Marcel.Istres: It sounds all great, but in reality, it just isn'tgoing to work
[07.10.2018 12:01:20] Black.Star: Why do you think so?
[07.10.2018 12:01:28] Death: Unknown_Soldier was put out of action by a hostile vessel.
[07.10.2018 12:02:09] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So, you are all for 'Freedom of choice' except when people cab 'chose' to give up that Freedom?
[07.10.2018 12:02:18] GMS|Marcel.Istres: can*
[07.10.2018 12:02:47] Black.Star: It is temporary. But when our day of victory has come, we will all be free.
[07.10.2018 12:02:58] Black.Star: There will be no need for orders anymore.
[07.10.2018 12:03:03] GMS|Marcel.Istres: And when they 'chose' to give up that 'freedom' they must do what they are told?
[07.10.2018 12:03:36] Tip: To interact with other players, open up your Chat Window (default button Y). The default chat type for all players is LOCAL and will be visible to all players currently on your scanner. You can privately message another player by selecting their name in the Chat Window.
[07.10.2018 12:03:57] Black.Star: Kind of, yes. But we are all a part of a group of people with the same ideals, and the same thoughts.
[07.10.2018 12:04:06] GMS|Marcel.Istres: If that is the case, how do you know that the people of the Houses haven't 'chosen' to give up their 'Freedom'?
[07.10.2018 12:04:18] Black.Star: There will be no orders harming our people, nor any real doubts on the orders.
[07.10.2018 12:04:58] Black.Star: Well, not all people realise what little freedom they've got.
[07.10.2018 12:05:08] GMS|Marcel.Istres: But with 'Freedom of choice' if I want to 'harm' someone, that is alright because I chose to?
[07.10.2018 12:05:19] Black.Star: Most are beeing kept under the radr with their few personal problems.
[07.10.2018 12:05:45] Black.Star: Your actions will always have consequences.
[07.10.2018 12:06:01] Black.Star: Harming people will just get yourself harmed.
[07.10.2018 12:06:04] GMS|Marcel.Istres: But what happened to my freedom of choice?
[07.10.2018 12:06:08] Black.Star: If not your body, then your soul.
[07.10.2018 12:06:30] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So freedom of choice has boundaries?
[07.10.2018 12:06:33] Black.Star: You still have it. There are just good ideas and bad ideas. You can do both of them.
[07.10.2018 12:06:44] Black.Star: No. It has consequences.
[07.10.2018 12:06:50] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Who decides what is good and bad?
[07.10.2018 12:07:15] Black.Star: Your own morale, and the morale of the person you are interacting with.
[07.10.2018 12:07:29] Black.Star: I won't play the judge for those conflicts.
[07.10.2018 12:07:43] Death: bert was put out of action by Unknown_Soldier (Gun).
[07.10.2018 12:07:54] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So who decides if my decision to harm someone was good or bad?
[07.10.2018 12:08:21] Black.Star: You do that. And the person who got harmed.
[07.10.2018 12:08:49] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Well, if I kill someone, that is fine because he can't decide, anyway
[07.10.2018 12:09:08] Black.Star: I'm sure he wouldn't like to be killed though.
[07.10.2018 12:09:17] Black.Star: But yes, you killed him.
[07.10.2018 12:09:33] Black.Star: Now this person might have family, friends or a partner.
[07.10.2018 12:09:33] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Well, by that time, he is beyond caring
[07.10.2018 12:09:53] Black.Star: Now it's up to them to decide what consequences your actions should have.
[07.10.2018 12:10:19] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So it will come down to who has the most friends?
[07.10.2018 12:10:36] Black.Star: While I see that this might lead to a lot of trouble, we have to trust in people good will.
[07.10.2018 12:10:59] Black.Star: Yes. Now imagine if you were about to kill me.
[07.10.2018 12:11:13] GMS|Marcel.Istres: *laughs* People's goodwill? That is why we have the Systems we do now!
[07.10.2018 12:11:19] Black.Star: Who would come for revenge for me? A few houndred? Doubt it, maybe one.
[07.10.2018 12:11:39] Black.Star: But if I would kill you right now, who would be after me?
[07.10.2018 12:12:07] Black.Star: All your paid friends of the police, navy and so on. Only because you have an idelogy that fits in the system.
[07.10.2018 12:12:21] GMS|Marcel.Istres: people are greedy, self centred and all the other things. It would come down to 'might is right' very quickly
[07.10.2018 12:12:50] Black.Star: People are over this, I believe. They know from what they suffered.
[07.10.2018 12:13:42] GMS|Marcel.Istres: We have systems of Justice. You need to let them solve the problems. You can't let people to chose their own Justice
[07.10.2018 12:14:02] GMS|Marcel.Istres: or otherwise might is right and anarchy will prevail
[07.10.2018 12:14:33] Black.Star: But how can the "Justice" decide to take another's life? They have played god for long enough!
[07.10.2018 12:15:04] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So you are letting the one with the most friends play god?
[07.10.2018 12:15:49] Black.Star: No. That's not how it's supposed to be. People should live free, without the usual problems in the houses.
[07.10.2018 12:16:09] Black.Star: Crimes such as murder, robbery and so on would happen more rarely.
[07.10.2018 12:16:37] Black.Star: People become criminal because of problems, not boredom.
[07.10.2018 12:16:41] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Maybe in your Ideal World, that is not how it is supposed to be, but that is actually what will happen.
[07.10.2018 12:17:14] Black.Star: I don't think it will come to this.
[07.10.2018 12:17:55] GMS|Marcel.Istres: People are greedy and selfish. If they weren't we wouldn't be having the problems you are wanting to run away from
[07.10.2018 12:18:27] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So what makes you think people will suddenly change?
[07.10.2018 12:18:57] Black.Star: It is the greed, which we declared war on. The people we are trying to free are used to not having much. If they get to a highe
[07.10.2018 12:19:38] Black.Star: -r standard of living, they will be more supporting for our ideals and might forget their desire for being better than others.
[07.10.2018 12:20:27] GMS|Marcel.Istres: So you really believe rich people don't commit crimes? *looks incredulous*
[07.10.2018 12:21:28] Black.Star: I surely believe rich people have a better chance for a life without crimes.
[07.10.2018 12:21:48] Black.Star: But anyone has to choose for themselves. That is what freedom is about.
[07.10.2018 12:22:07] Black.Star: We only give them a basic opportunity for a good life. Something they don't get here.
[07.10.2018 12:22:42] GMS|Marcel.Istres: You will just swap the problems from one group to another.
[07.10.2018 12:23:28] Black.Star: Society will no longer be divided in different groups. With the fall of the system, capitalism will also fall.
[07.10.2018 12:23:38] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Your ideals are good in principle, but the biggest problem you have with them is............................people.
[07.10.2018 12:23:42] Black.Star: People will be all the same, but free.
[07.10.2018 12:23:53] Rules Tip: Pirates need to keep their demands reasonable. Cargo and Monetary demands that exceed the maximum profit of a trader are viewed as unreasonable. ''Empty'' traders are not excempt from piracy, but the demands asked from them should reflect this.
[07.10.2018 12:24:25] Black.Star: Maybe you are right. But I also can't let those who need my help suffer, just for the sake of those who were born in a better
[07.10.2018 12:24:27] Black.Star: world.
[07.10.2018 12:24:53] Death: Explorador was put out of action by a hostile vessel.
[07.10.2018 12:24:57] GMS|Marcel.Istres: But it will soon lead to who is the strongest/has the most friends will take control
[07.10.2018 12:25:36] Black.Star: If something like that is about to happen, people will unite and fight those tyrrants.
[07.10.2018 12:26:00] Black.Star: Once we have the freedom, we only have to protect.
[07.10.2018 12:26:22] Black.Star: I don't say that will be easy, but it is the only chance we have to keep it.
[07.10.2018 12:27:10] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I would, if I was you, concentrate on your friends and keep you community small.
[07.10.2018 12:27:22] GMS|Marcel.Istres: your*
[07.10.2018 12:27:53] Black.Star: Well, there is no other way anyways. What we are doing will most likely cost all our lives.
[07.10.2018 12:28:11] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Not if you are clever about it
[07.10.2018 12:28:13] Black.Star: So getting the majority to fight for our cause will be almost impossible.
[07.10.2018 12:28:33] GMS|Marcel.Istres: I would say so.
[07.10.2018 12:28:47] Black.Star: Even if we are clever, we can't be risk free without giving up our dreams.
[07.10.2018 12:29:45] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Save the ones you can and worry about the rest later once you have a plan
[07.10.2018 12:29:48] Black.Star: Guess it's time for me to leave.
[07.10.2018 12:30:03] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Bonjour
[07.10.2018 12:30:05] Black.Star: It was nice meeting you, monsieur. May I know your name?
[07.10.2018 12:30:06] Guardian.of.Gallia: bettter leave Mister pirate .
[07.10.2018 12:30:35] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Mon name is Marcel, Mademoiselle
[07.10.2018 12:30:49] Black.Star: Claire. Claire Delune. Nice to meet you.
[07.10.2018 12:31:02] Black.Star: Thank you for the talk.
[07.10.2018 12:31:11] Black.Star: We sure will see each other again.
[07.10.2018 12:31:33] Guardian.of.Gallia: if you come back i kill you
[07.10.2018 12:31:56] GMS|Marcel.Istres: Au revoir, Mademoiselle Delune
[07.10.2018 12:32:03] Black.Star: To protect the the traders freedom, I know.
[07.10.2018 12:32:26] Black.Star: Think about my words, Marcel. Until another time.