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So there are few issues about capital ships atm, first of all as you all mention about cap vs bombers, 3 bombers are more then enough to destroy any capital ship even those who does have flaks and CMs, staying at 2,5-3k range just with nova torpedos you are more then capable of destroying capital ships. I know you all know that in real life to protect large battleships from incoming missiles there are specialized turrets like a close range chaingun which can fire over 1000 rounds at minute or even more (Im not the expert in matter). It would be quite cool to introduce that to the game to just lower the number of incoming torps (thats my idea at least so please dont be judgy). Second thing is that captial ship have secondary turrets which at the moment are bad very bad in term of range and efficiency against small targets and players wont dare to sacrifice the secondaries by putting solaris type turrets. My suggestion is to introduce point to point defence which ship operatior can use to protect themselves from the incoming missiles like what mentioned before perfect range would be like 1k 1.5k which will have both nerfs and buffs... Buff against torpedoes doing enough damage to destory it while aproaching and a nerf for snubs and every other type of ship so it cannot be exploited to decimate bombers or snubs like shield damage:1 and hull damage:1, then I would lower the damage of the secondaries in favour or higher refiring rate and range. Currently if Im not mistaking secondaries have range of aproximately 1,8k. Benefit of having higher refire rate would be that now caps can compete against gunboat which for a moment are OP. If you got no one with GB to counter another GB you got almost no chance killing it both with snubs and caps. Im talking about this since I saw a lot of people in cap ships struggling to kill a gunboat.

Second to bring more balance in term of snubs I would add a hardpoints to current HF and VHF to accomodate a special type of guns. One type of shield busters only usable against ships above gunboats which will have the same principal of use as snaks had before small the target smaller the damage, and I would set the range of it on like 1.7k so snubs would need to get close to fire it. Same principal applied on Hull busters, and of couse to not be used against other snubs I would lower the damage like we did long ago on snaks, so it would be quite negligible.

In terms of manuvrability of capital ships I would increase the steer rate of capital ships without adding any trusted and I would do something very infamous here I would grant all ships a CD since if you are in a battleship you got no way of stoping another battleship if he goes for cruise speed.
Battlecruisers should be removed or nerfed since they are hell of the pain for any battleship both for their speed, size and manuvrability. If player is skilled enough one BC can easily beat a crap out of any battleship. I would make BCs bigger (fatter) manuvrability would be littles lowered and speed would be adjusted, both with and without the thrusters.

For now I got no more ideas if some come to me I would share it with you. Hope I wont get killed for what I wrote above.

I like Boban ideas plus making primary battleship turrets refire rate better and projectile faster. With 2.00 refire and 800 m/s cruisers and bc's are partying while the bs pilot hit nothing. Turrets are easily removed by Nightmares, imagine if you get hit by more and lose all our codes on it.

(11-30-2020, 04:14 AM)Kauket Wrote: [ -> ]Or you can disable the NPC's ability to collide with stuff. But yes they do need to have their combat AI fixed so they don't fkin chase you literally across the entire map.

https://discoverygc.com/forums/showthrea...tid=183950

Even without collision, they’ll still mess with your crosshair until you either kill them or they bug off.

(11-29-2020, 09:12 PM)EisenSeele Wrote: [ -> ]Make Cruisers and larger immune to snub CDs

I like this

(11-29-2020, 09:12 PM)EisenSeele Wrote: [ -> ]For Cruisers:
Give them higher thrust speed and a 360 CD to be able to actually chase gunboats for longer (while still being slower), and to be able to more easily outrun battlecruisers - otherwise, change nothing except removing solaris turrets to make Mep happy.

I do not like this considering BC guns can barely hit good cruiser pilots/ships as it is. And that's with blindfire. The best way I've seen is raw firing dual mortars which is overly specialized in my eyes.

It's a case by case. Some cruisers are larger and can be hit far easier. Some cruisers such as the triumph and archer are just broken.

Furthermore it's rather hard to fire bc secondaries without a crosshair considering their range is so short to begin with. And group firing secondaries isn't viable if you your self don't want to stop dodging as well as group firing them with nothing selected is hella inaccurate when you have to shoot such a small target with a non-converging set of guns.

If I had more buttons on my mouse I'd bind m6 to see if I can automatically group fire and not have it cancelled by my keyboard presses.


Ah more edits. But this is why I suggest to upscale cruiser size, health and dps accordingly to make it less frustrating for both of them as the BC will die faster more comfortably and the cruiser won't be as scared to stay close as if would be worth the risk.

(11-29-2020, 07:30 PM)Karlotta Wrote: [ -> ]I'd make caps a bit more vulnerable to snubs, maybe by giving vhf weapons a range and/or dps boost, or an additional missile/torp slot besides the CD.

After reading this again yeah I'm actually in support of this idea. Maybe not range because you'd end up with players boxing at 1.5k or even closer being impossible to hit with secondaries (Maybe solaris gatlings would fix this) but if , like with the whole shield damage type mechanics, snub guns had increased damage to capital ship hull that would be a bit more inclusive. I'd be less angry being snub swarmed if only I could have an equal chance at killing them and die a hell of a lot faster. Y'know. I want to play freelancer not press C on incoming missile for 20 mins.

Anything that takes control away from the player is bad. Like how with for honor CC mechanics they made them all either interruptible and lowered the recovery so you could get back to fighting faster.

Well, as a capwhore I agree with this
If just VHF HF and LF have OP Shields vs caps it would make the game better

And I'd nerf bomber ones at the same time or buff anti snub capability for caps - right now you can just jump to bombers and kill caps with little risk of dying, and cap vs bomber/shf fights are pretty boring

so how are you supposed to kill fighters when alone? just watch them fly around you and do nothing? also how do you assist other fighter players if you cant help keep hostile fighters away from them? IMO i dont see most players being ok with this. removing Solaris turrets is fine, but making cap ship guns do no DPS to fighter shields seems to be canon / immersion breaking. what if a fighter player wants to troll or attack another player who has a allied capship in the area, but he can do nothing to help. i know im newer around here but as having played FL for a long time i dont fully understand how this makes people wanting to play caps have a more enjoyable time.

Shields should have damage reduction. Not 99% but just resistance so VHF and smaller are harder to kill, not invincible

This would break immersion, IMHO. Not like there have been to s of skirmishes between fighters Nd caps but in fleet fights everyone should be able to shoot everyone. It would lead to quite stupid standoffs in teamfights when one side one with caps, other won with snubs, and inRP the outcome does not make sense. Yes, it sometimes happens even now but at least there are prospects to win. With mutual invulnerability these prospects would not exist.