When I am finished with the model I will have a prototype WORKING carrier to present to factions wanting them.
I need some advice on hit boxes and "bay doors' as used on the vanilla ships--can someone respond?
' Wrote:When I am finished with the model I will have a prototype WORKING carrier to present to factions wanting them.
I need some advice on hit boxes--can someone respond?
Frozen is the one you want to talk to for Hitbox advise, I would shoot him a PM if I were you.
I have some questions for you about this model you speak of, any chance you have an eta on it being done, or maybe you could answer some questions? I understand if you dont want to give anything away, I am just sooo curious now, and my mind is running threw the possibilities.
1) Military ship? Will it have lots of guns and such or be more like a shell for fighters?
2) Could the process be adapted to make a functioning dockable liner?
3) Is the docking actual (as in do you get moved to a base somewhere) or is this a play on the formation command?
No--I am simply making a "shell". After flying the barge, I realize that if the interior is left empty it is adequate size. The slow maneuver and long time to cruise make it ideal for this sort of thing and actually give a purpose to the ship. Later, if someone wants to make dockable ships--these will already fill the bill. As to guns--those things can be decided later. My goal here is realized by the fact that the barge is the largest possible ship. Anything larger can't dock or fit through things easily. Using the cylindrical hull for the base size makes it practical to hitbox a "one size fits all approach. The Hispania and some of the bases already have "fly though" hit box designs so we know it is possible. Superstructure can be added on a faction by faction need basis and will be eye candy only anyway. The barge also allows for superstructure room already too.
The idea is simple--keep mostly the barge stats--though the spin will HAVE to be dealt with. Cargo bays can be reduced so no abuse is made by them. To launch fighters, simply import a cargo bay (and size it up as needed) from one of the vanilla ships and jettison cargo to "open the launch bay". The slow speed and maneuver of the barge allows fighters to fly "in" it and I don't know if forming and screwing with model parameters will work well enough to make it practical.
It takes skill to fly a barge and it will take skill to fly in one. Its actually quite rewarding and fun.
So chime in experts. I did want to actually make the model and get the glory but honestly its worth having it done well and I'd prefer to see it made and used over simply getting kudos. Start with the barge size cylinder and hit box it. Add an enlarged, operable bay door from a vanilla ship. The spin HAS to be fixed though--its not gonna work otherwise. Make it with a smallish cargo capacity.
The barge stats at present make it easily a ship you could "fly inside". I'd recommend keeping the current speed and maneuverability (ha ha). Give it monster hit points and some guns and it would be fearsome with ships inside. Varying bay door sizes could determine "ship classes" even.
Very interesting concept. I am going to forward this post to some Dev's.
Forgive me for being sceptical, but wouldn't all the carried ships just bounce around inside, and worse, bounce against the inner hull and knock the ship off course? Surely the interior of the ship would be governed by the same laws as the exterior, and thus any attempts to have it "carry" ships inside would require the carried ships to also be cruising, in the same direction at all times, and beginning and ending at the same time to avoid crashing.
I am intrigued, but I'd love to know how this would work.
Player ship docking by a FLHook command is easily possible.
This is interesting though. I wonder if formation's can be edited for this or if the barge innards is large enough that the preset formation positions allow you to stay close enough to be inside. So as the barge moves, your ship moves automatically, instead of having to try keep pace etc.
' Wrote:Player ship docking by a FLHook command is easily possible.
This is interesting though. I wonder if formation's can be edited for this or if the barge innards is large enough that the preset formation positions allow you to stay close enough to be inside. So as the barge moves, your ship moves automatically, instead of having to try keep pace etc.
You would have to "fly" your fighter-bomber-gunboat inside the carrier but the barge has a 25kps top speed on thrust and takes three minutes to go to cruise in addition to turning like...a barge.
If I knew the "docking point" for formation it might barely be doable but not practically if you wanted a ship to fly inside while in formation--it would have to be very wide then and I doubt would be very dockable.
I'd love to see the FLhook idea done but even with that, the "fly inside" concept has some interesting tactical considerations.
It's just very easy to make a large hollow ship--simple.
Perhaps if a special formation was made for a ship like this...... if one could get the docking bay to work in the first place.
I'm shooting for "do-able" versus "dreamable" guys.
We can make a ship with current tech on the server as I described. If people play it maybe the fancier things will get done.
Working on a concept model now with modular parts so people can design their own particular layouts or additions.