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' Wrote:(...)Perchapse now when I load some food and go to Crete PFC will tax me againa and tax will be higher amount of credits that You even pay for this food. (...)

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Hello
PFC doesn't kill/destroy ships of vessels that are in fact supporting corsairs community.
It is a normal thing that we try to find resources to help new recruicts , buy ships for corsairs pilots and so on.
I helped few new corsairs to equip their ships and to help them on the missions.
So I don't think , that PFC ISN"T CORSAIRS ...we do many good things to our community and try to make our new unofficial faction to build up it's name...after speaking with present Leader od PFC , Overlord Dante , we came to conclusion that donation which i asked for, was a bit to high...and yes we could try to make it little more polite...but all this was happend because of you , because you didn't even try to negiotiate about the price , you just laughed in our face after we told you that you are in corsairs territory, in fact near Cadiz Base claiming that it isn't our territory and we are doing something OORP ... that is why we weren't polite..and we didn't ASK politly for donation just ...forced you to pay. As for trading with Gamma , PFC allows to dock on Crete and other Gamma system bases only for our allies and only for traders that have a good reason for it or supplies us with resources ... we would never destroy neutral vessel just beacuse it isn't Corsair or allied and we will not tax anyone for supporting Corsairs itself.

I think whole argument here , has no point ... and I ask all Council members to just let it go.
PFC Leader , Dante gave us orders how me must make the donation thing next time to avoid such situations.
We understand Ariel's transmission and we try not to make such agressive actions next time ...although we don't promise that we will stop asking for donations as from zoners as from anyother vessel not friendly to corsairs empire.
Once again I ask everybody to finish this argument for both Zoners and Corsairs , because it'll do nothing good for any of the sides.

Yours sincerely
PFC | Lt.Gargamel Callo
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||Sender - Zoner Guard Capitain: Ariel Necrontyre||
||Location - Omega-49 - Peacebringer-II|||
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Interesting, You want to say that this "action" wasn't approved by leader of Yourse before? I offered two possibilities and I am rather stubbern enought to do not change my mind without reasons. I understand when Corsairs taxing cargo that is floating throught space in zone of their interest but only if is cargo in which Transport Capitain is supplying Corsairs-hostile bases. From what You did I must assume that Corsairs are considering Freeport-2 for hostile base to them. Next thing is "Yours" territory... well as far as I remember Omega-5 is system in which two organisations have their bases, first base is Cadiz indeed but second is Ronneburg over which RH has jurdistiction. I also must assume that Corsairs do not wish not only to none of Freeports was peacefully supplied by Zoners but also that Zoners do not enter Omega-5 system as all other systems in which Corsairs have their base or few bases. Finally I must state that even because of what You, Senor Globalo as Senor Montoya said we can't stop our food supplies cause it would be just unfair for people of Crete - therefore I think that food supplies should not be delivered by our Whales only by Aquillons, cause there is no other way if that is the Corsair current position in this situation. Ofcourse that would lower food quantity but only this in my opinion would quarantee our Capitains and crew's safety. Analogically other supplies such as not-food, I mean Deuterium for Zoners or Fertilizers for Corsairs should be transportet by heavyli protected Aquillons... So make Your mind Corsairs should Zoners stay of beeing Your business partners or You want them to feel unsafe in deepest or even shallowest parts of Your space. And I am glad that You are agree with me sir Sebastien Coen, however as I said we can't estimate all Corsairs including poorest Crete civilians as someone we could starv to death only cause their leaders want to do so... we must wait untill they will change their minds and in the meantime provide full escort for our ship as also change ships from Transports to Carriers. After al I am a bit glad that PFC submit partially to their mistakes... however I laughted them right in face because their demand tax for supplying Zoners and quite high tax... in "their" territory, why "their" - cause because of two different bases located in Omega-5, statement whos territory is this system is negotiable and fully discussional.

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' Wrote:I think whole argument here , has no point ... and I ask all Council members to just let it go.
PFC Leader , Dante gave us orders how me must make the donation thing next time to avoid such situations.
We understand Ariel's transmission and we try not to make such agressive actions next time ...although we don't promise that we will stop asking for donations as from zoners as from anyother vessel not friendly to corsairs empire.
Once again I ask everybody to finish this argument for both Zoners and Corsairs , because it'll do nothing good for any of the sides.

Yours sincerely
PFC | Lt.Gargamel Callo
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Comm ID: GJEUVN38V719BELHB
To: All on this channel
ID Trace: Sebastien Coen, Planet Gran Canaria, Omega 49

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When you pay the bill for a 130 million Zoner Whale perhaps. Until that time, I believe treating all PFC| ships as terrorists is in order.

Have a nice day.


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We didn't have official orders from our command about such actions it was just normal corsairs role and we just had a talk with our leader who gave us official PFC orders for next time we want to make the donation thing just to make everything clear inside the PFC. I didn't said that freeport or any nonallied bases ARE HOSTILE . We didn't take TAX from you we wanted a dotation which you refused to pay. As for Senior Sebastien Coen ... I don't think that calling us a terrorist , equal to xenos is a smart thing cause we didn't just killed the trader ...it was the efect of not replying to stop command and refusing to pay dotation.

There is one more thing...Why Ariel speaks in name of all zoners? ... I mean about relations with Zoners , trading with Zoners , diplomacy with Zoners... are you a council member Ariel? First , I think that this action isn't so important to destroy all diplomacy and trading connections between Corsairs and Zoners.
I already admited that we made the "donation ask" a bit not the right way but after all we weren't just standing and killing all zoners transports that pass through the O-5. It was a normal thing that we are trying to get money for new pilots and all community of corsair.
If Zoners will decide to call us terrorists i want to hear that from a high council itself and than we will act like terrorist or pay the fine , for now the case is open and i suggest we don't call each other names.
PFC isn't hunting or destroying Zoners vessels just like that so we don't think calling us terrorist is a good choice.
About that whale Ariel lost , I see no reason for paying him for a new ship ... because it was said by other members here that our action itself wasn't violating rules or we are guilty killing zoner ship for fun.
For now I ask for a Zoner Council official statment and Corsairs Council Reply and than we , as a PFC will decide what action we will take. I ask Ariel and any other members to not post anything more till the official statment will be posted and we will reply to it, cause everything about this case was already said.
And one more thing PFC isn't so important part of corsairs community yet to get all faction in to trouble so i suggest you take the same as for Ariel cause everything got very serious cause one ship got destroyed....
Think about it and read the transmissions again.PFC is speaking only in its name . Ariel is speaking in name of all that aren't involed at all in here.I suggest to read everything again before making a final statment.
We are not hostile to Zoners and we are not a terrorist group ... just aiming to kill. We are a part of Corsairs family in which we are trying to find a place to live and trying to make the corsairs lifestyle our lifestyle.

Thank you.

(Again requesting to not post anything till official statment will be posted and we reply to it as a main target of accusation)

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As for Senior Sebastien Coen ... I don't think that calling us a terrorist , equal to xenos is a smart thing cause we didn't just killed the trader ...it was the efect of not replying to stop command and refusing to pay dotation.

It was a normal thing that we are trying to get money for new pilots and all community of corsair.
If Zoners will decide to call us terrorists i want to hear that from a high council itself and than we will act like terrorist or pay the fine , for now the case is open and i suggest we don't call each other names.
PFC isn't hunting or destroying Zoners vessels just like that so we don't think calling us terrorist is a good choice.

About that whale Ariel lost , I see no reason for paying him for a new ship ... because it was said by other members here that our action itself wasn't violating rules or we are guilty killing zoner ship for fun.

For now I ask for a Zoner Council official statment and Corsairs Council Reply and than we , as a PFC will decide what action we will take. I ask Ariel and any other members to not post anything more till the official statment will be posted and we will reply to it, cause everything about this case was already said.
And one more thing PFC isn't so important part of corsairs community yet to get all faction in to trouble so i suggest you take the same as for Ariel cause everything got very serious cause one ship got destroyed....
Think about it and read the transmissions again.PFC is speaking only in its name . Ariel is speaking in name of all that aren't involed at all in here.I suggest to read everything again before making a final statment.
We are not hostile to Zoners and we are not a terrorist group ... just aiming to kill. We are a part of Corsairs family in which we are trying to find a place to live and trying to make the corsairs lifestyle our lifestyle.

Thank you.

(Again requesting to not post anything till official statment will be posted and we reply to it as a main target of accusation)

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Comm ID: GJEUVN38V719BELHB
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ID Trace: Sebastien Coen, Planet Gran Canaria, Omega 49
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The Corsairs have met the Xenos? That is news.

It sounds like you are a Terrorist because you did not ask for a reasonable "donation". Six million credits? Why should the Zoners fund another three PFC| ships to pirate them? It seems stupid to. Yes, it is piracy, not asking for donations, when you ask for ridiculous funds.

Whilst Ariel Necrontyre may not represent the Zoners as a whole, he is one of them. Hostile terrorist-like actions, which is what this is because you are asking for an unreasonable amount of money, is just another event in a string of hostile events by the Corsairs towards the Zoners.

As for his ship, it certainly sounds bad on your part, like you were simply looking for a kill by asking for a ridiculous amount of money.


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//Frankly, the whole thing looks like vengeance against Revan for leaving the PFC|.

' Wrote:It sounds like you are a Terrorist because you did not ask for a reasonable "donation". Six million credits? Why should the Zoners fund another three PFC| ships to pirate them? It seems stupid to. Yes, it is piracy, not asking for donations, when you ask for ridiculous funds.

We did not pirate him we wanted a dotation ... the dotation hight is as high as dotationer Level , he was 74 with cargo of 10mln at least that means 6mln wasn't to much but could be less ... i know a corsair Greenhawk on GB who makes dotations near grand canaria , in zoners system ... and we are called terrorist for taking dotation in CORSAIRS SYSTEM , from non-allied but not-hostile trader ...this is ridiculuous if you ask me.

Now please ... let it be the council decision if we were right or not ... argument here isn't needed cause we aren't the ones that make decisions.

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// We didn't start this , we aren't doin anything agains Revan for leaving PFC , it has nothing to do with that.

' Wrote:We did not pirate him we wanted a dotation ... the dotation hight is as high as dotationer Level , he was 74 with cargo of 10mln at least that means 6mln wasn't to much but could be less ... i know a corsair Greenhawk on GB who makes dotations near grand canaria , in zoners system ... and we are called terrorist for taking dotation in CORSAIRS SYSTEM , from non-allied but not-hostile trader ...this is ridiculuous if you ask me.

Now please ... let it be the council decision if we were right or not ... argument here isn't needed cause we aren't the ones that make decisions.

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// We didn't start this , we aren't doin anything agains Revan for leaving PFC , it has nothing to do with that.

Comm ID: GJEUVN38V719BELHB
To: All on this channel
ID Trace: Sebastien Coen, Planet Gran Canaria, Omega 49
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It sounds to me like you are not up for taking responsibility, nor apologising or making amends. In that case, consider yourselves hostile if you come near any of the HX's interests. We will defend ourselves from mindless terrorists such as yourselves.


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//Mal, certain things needed to be clarified via OOC, apologies for doing so, but my PM inbox is overflowing.

Comm ID: Malaclypse, Chairman, Council of Zoners.
To: All

As this matter is addressed to our group, I wish to make certain things clear.

I have refrained from responding thus far because the Council is currently engaged in other matters of equal or greater importance, but the furball is beginning to catch in my throat.

The Council will at some near time review this matter. Until such time..

Captain Coen, you are indeed a Council Delegate, but you are NOT authorized to speak for the Council without first consulting its Membership. We speak with one voice, not in dribbles; and we DEFINITELY do not bandy about words such as "terrorist" without serious consideration. Consider yourself warned.

Captain Necrontyre, if you feel the need to transport pathetically small amounts of cargo in a bloody Aquilon, that is your perogative, sir; but I assure you that without proper escort and forethought, you would lose such a ship every bit as quickly as you would a ZBT. I strongly urge you to settle this matter with the PFC using less stringent tones.

To the Corsair Elders who have "spoken" on this matter, I commend you on the restraint and good sense you have thus far shown. If either the Corsairs or the Zoners fanned the flames of every small brushfire which erupts, the entire Omegas and Omicrons would be a charred ruin. Neither of our groups wishes this to happen, esta verdad?

And finally to the spokesperson and leaders of the PFC. If there is indeed some animosity due to past relations between yourselves and Captain Necrontyre, I strongly urge that you resolve your differences on a "local" level.

Captain Necrontyre has applied for Membership in the Council of Zoners; but I am extremely reluctant to accept his application under the current set of circumstances. You will not see any Council Delegates "trading in Aquilons"; nor would we consider such a ludicrous suggestion under any circumstances.

Thank you for listening. If this matter does not resolve itself between the "injured parties", as it should have been in the first place, the Council will be willing to discuss it further at the first opportunity.

Regards,
Chairman Mal, CoZ.

' Wrote:In that case, consider yourselves hostile if you come near any of the HX's interests. We will defend ourselves from mindless terrorists such as yourselves.
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I don't think you will have to defend yourself cause we will not make any hostile actions ... as far as we will have to defend ourselfs.We aren't demending , we will not apologise if it will not be said that we have to and we aren't taking any responosibility till the decision will be taken by councils of both sides.
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