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Honourable Sirs, Madams

my name is Jack Henderson, IMG Security wing, currently deployed to Dublin in IMG effort to step up the ore production and develop the mining areas.

I want to hand in a formal complaint about the behaviour of a Molly pilot named Long Horn Silver.

Named person caused monetary losses of more than 30.000.000 credits to the IMG in less than 3 hours by destroying two targets that were being serviced by an IMG unmanned drone. Thus these targets are to be considered IMG customers, consequently economic IMG interests were violated by the pilot's behaviour.

In two cases IMG customers were destroyed and the ore was lost in both incidents. Both customers hadn't paid before the attack because it is standard IMG drone procedure to accomplish the task (filling up the freighter) before getting payment. To get to the point: IMG spent time, ressources and equipment and got nothing due to the repeated actions of Long Horn Silver.

In addition, the drone paid a yet unspecified amount of taxes and license fees (as agreed in the treaties) to the Mollys, just to have its customers destroyed twice.

Furthermore the drone had to be sent back to Freeport 4 because it is programmed to avenge the loss of IMG profits by switching to agressive mode after a certain amount of loss. Since I am not interested in another incident, I ordered the drone back, causing some more hundred millions of loss to the IMG. Drones in transit don't mine.

To put this into perspective: IMG vessels can pay Molly licenses and taxes and can have its traders pirated 10 times on their route and still the loss would be less than today's mining efforts.

Moreover it seem noteworthy in this context that Long Horn Silver used something I refer to as the "old Molly way" of taxing, which means: aggressive approach and lots of explosions. These killings should be investigated as there were significantly more committed by this pilot than by the normal Garda ships that normally do duty in Dublin, which seems awkward.

There were more than 10 attempts made by the Drone and myself to get Long Horn Silver into commenting on the actions. He flatly denied my transmissions which were aimed at finding a solution that works for everybody involved by saying that he had to tax another miner. This makes me think that he did not understand the implications of his actions one bit or - more likely - that he did not care at all.

Let me stress: We - IMG elements operating in Dublin - haven't had trouble with Molly personel for quite some time - and I think both parties profited. Today this changed and it changed due to just one individual who profited, while IMG lost millions. I do not have to remind anybody in this communication circle about the relationship between Mollys and IMG. I think I do not have to stress how inacceptable these actions are.

I enquire an investigation into the events to keep incidents like this one from happening.
I request a cancelling of Long Horn Silvers landing right on the IMG Hood as well as on any other IMG base.
I request an affirmation that the IMG efforts to develop the mining areas are really wanted by the Molly Council and that the treaties are still valid.

My personal consequences will be that no taxes and licenses will be paid in the next 9 days by the Dublin IMG mining crew because the saved sums are used as compensation for the damage that was inflicted to IMG interests today.

Yours sincerely

Jack Henderson


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#OORP: 100 % ingame anger, no problems with the action OORP. =)
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Ok my bargy's the one registered under Long_Hon_Silver, now lets sort this out; I assume ye talkin bou the USS and Ercon righ?
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[font=Fixedsys]Well, nice to see you found time for a comment, Mister.

I guess you were informed about the complaint filed to the IMG and to the Molly Council in your case. If not, now you are.

And the answer to your question is as simple as "yes, of course".

But I forgot, you destroyed so many ships during your taxing run - should I rather say rampage? - that it must be hard to remember exactly which you did when and with which of your acts of violence you harmed the business interests of political and economic allies.


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From: Johnathan Sanders, IMG
Signal origin: Aland, Omega 3
To: Channel recipients
Subject: Molly trouble.

Right, I suppose this was coming...

Jack, when you joined us I believe I did tell you not to try to start too much trouble with the Mollies. I also told you the Mollies tax per cargo - so if you're using a drone to fill up transports, I suspect the tax goes to the transports instead. In addition, while Mollies might look favorable on us independant miners, the same cannot be said from several trade companies, most of which supplied BMM in the past. A certain amount of animosity still exists between them.

So let me try to reiterate what happened according to your own words, and correct me if I am wrong.
- Your drone was mining ore, presumably leaving it in space to be gathered by the transports.
- The transports were standing by, empty.
- The Molly came along and demanded the mining taxation for the transport vessels as it was clear that they'd be soon serviced by the drone.
- The transport vessels refused and your drone engaged the molly in defense - losing it's harvested gold in the process.
- You now complain that this happened.

If this situation is accurate the blame lays solely on the transport captains who were in fact subject to the taxation (again, one million isn't that much considering the total value of a full ore cargo). What happens to the ore after it leaves the Guild is not our concern - if the transports move without escort then yea, the chances of them reaching their destination unharmed are slim. My suggestion is to program your drone with a scouting routine to have it scout ahead of the transports to ensure the ore reaches it's destination, if you wish to offer that extra service.

I will monitor this channel for the Molly response. Again, correct me if my above assessment is incorrect.

Regards,
- Johnathan Sanders

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Good evening, Sir!

Sir, I can very well remember your warning and I am the one who was very calm and cautious in the complete process, that should be said in advance. There were no shots fired between Molly and IMG forces, not even hard words were exchanged. To be honest, this is the most peaceful incident that I have seen in the category of a loss bigger than 30 000 000 credits.

I need to put some facts right, which I should have in my initial report:

The drone wasn't commanded by me. I was flying guard nearby in my Nyx and I'm just a witness to the scene. But since the drone is not programmed for lengthy discussions, I jumped in at that part.

I am refering now to the second attack which I was a direct witness of: The drone was mining and the trader tractored the ore after arrival. The IMG drone and myself had mined about 2000 units which the trader tractored into his hold. The drone continued mining and the trader tractored every minute.

The trader was attacked and destroyed later on, consequently IMG services couldn't be paid because the buyer and the ore had gone up in flames, most literally.

The communication between the trader and the Molly are unknown to me. The blackbox could not be recovered by IMG elements, so I guess that chapter will remain in darkness.

Named Molly pilot had done the same before to another customer of the drone which lost its complete profit.

Named Molly pilot had been explained by the drone that he had damaged IMG property and interests in his first act in which he also destroyed the customer before payment was completed. The drone argumented in a mechanical but well understandable way so that I am sure that the Molly understood what had happened before. This didn't keep him from repeating it.

And just a side note: I seldom see 1 million tax, but it's basically not the point. 1 or 2 million doesn't matter much, really. Four to five is quite normal for the "not so civilized" type of Molly taxmen, but it's not us that are charged that much - so I have no problem with that either.

Just to underline the main points from my perspective:

The IMG drone fired no shots at the Molly.
I fired no shots at the Molly.
I deactivated the drone when it started to switch to agressive mode.
I asked the Molly for an explanation and got nothing.
I told him that I was going to report the incident to you and the Council, but there was no reaction either.
So I did what I had said I would do.

This is as close by the book as I can be. Just forgetting about it is no real option, and it's not even for a drone.

Sir, I can remember very well your words that you directed at me in our first meeting and I know what I promised.

I keep my promises and I've also kept them in this incident. You can count on me doing a good and professional job for IMG in Dublin and I hope you can trust me enough to support a reaction to incidents like this one.

I'm not out for trouble, but IMG being pushed around by a single trigger happy jockey and IMG bleeding credits in the process can't be accepted silently and meekly. I know that parts of the Mollys don't accept or support behaviour like this and would rather like to see a calmer and more professional approach, so I hope they can put an end to incidents like that or at least decrease the number of economically and diplomatically harmful incidents.

As I said, I'm not out to cause trouble. If I was, there would be different reports on your table and I guess my resignation would be one of them.

Sorry for bothering you, Sir, but if I hadn't acted the way I did, the drone would have attacked and there would have been a blue on blue incident to deal with. This one is much less grave.

Standing by for your answer, Sir.

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#OORP just to make my intentions clear: The drone player wasn't me but another IMG player (mining drone alpha, I think). And this is not about OORP anger or "he stole my money" whining, etc... I lost no single credit. It's for the fun of resolving conflicts, roleplaying actions and reactions and interacting ingame. I hope you all enjoy this kind of "problem play" as much as I do.
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From: Johnathan Sanders, IMG
Signal origin: Aland, Omega 3
To: Channel recipients
Subject: Molly trouble.

Well, then I have two suggestions to you:
1: Finalize transactions upon the trader taking posession of the ore. Claiming ownership without presence won't fly with the Mollies. Heck, it wouldn't fly with me. Or...
2: Escort that trader to it's destination. Acting as an escort you can voice yourself to the Mollies.

Make sure you're paid for labor, not for getting the ore to where it's supposed to be, unless you take an active role in getting it there. My recommendation is to leave moving the ore to dedicated trader factions, preferably those with escort.

Regards,
- John Sanders

Ps. I did say "too much trouble" explicitly. Given Molly nature, an occasional knocking of heads is unavoidable - they're a rough folk, just like us. Just try and keep it minor.

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// A bit of diplomacy with people actually interested in diplomacy is RP I enjoy - No problems here.
Arranmore Base,
Dublin System

To: Messers Henderson, Sanders

Subject: Molly Taxation

There appears to be some confustion here gen'lemen. One million is rarely charged by pirates, of which there are a lamentable amount in the Molly Empire, to be sure, but it is the amount charged for a Work Visa Processing Fee. A work visa does not in any way confer some kind of immunity from being mugged. If you're daft enough to walk down an alley late at night, just because you pay your income tax doesn't mean that you're not gonna get rolled for your bankwad. Furthermore, getting mugged is not, and never will be tax deductable.

Concerning the pirate Lon Silver, I repeat to ye what I say to everyone on this subject. It's cheaper to pay the pirate than to pay for protection. If we'd eleventy hun'red ships to patrol every corner of Dubhlinn, the amount your income tax would go up would be amazingly high - an' ye'd gripe at paying it, an' rightly too, 'cos we'd havta pay a man to sit there an' count it all up, and that'd drive the costs up. So, in the end, we'd be charging more than the pirates do now.

When workin' with traders, ye literally have no idea who they've upset; I stronnly suggest that ye use transports clearly labelled with IMG, to avoid these altercations in the future.

Finally, I have yet to find any work visas on file for Mr Henderson. I trust that this oversight on your behalf is corrected before any of the [Garda] catch you mining in Dubhlinn. From your statements above, I calculate that the deficit is to the tune of 10 days, which, as I am sure that you are aware, is C10 million. If you could provide photographic evidence of your transfer to [Garda]Bank, this would only improve your standing with us in our future relations.

Yours,


Ryan Doyle,

Garda
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We, together, agree that the Molly pilot in question acted within his own rights.
Which are Molly rights.
In a Molly system.
Under Molly control.

Enjoy your day.
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Good evening, Sirs and Madams, Honourable Council!

Mr. Sanders, thank you for your answer and your suggestions. I will pass them on to the software department that programmed the drone software for IMG.

Mr. Doyle, thank you also for your explanations on the topic. There must have been a misunderstanding concerning the duration of the stay of the IMG mining group in Dublin. Today is the third day and three million credits have been transferred to the account of the Garda (proof of transaction). Logbooks of my departure from Tau23 can prove that it's really 3 days.

Mr. Doyle, Honourable Molly Council, I still have one last question: Mr. Doyle labelled the named Molly a "pirate", which in my understanding of the word means that he is a criminal in Mr. Doyle's definition. As such I'd assume the Garda will hunt him.

Consequently I must ask the logical follow up question: How can a "pirate" (cf. Mr. Doyle) act in accordance with the Molly laws, as stated by the Honourable Council? I am honstely confused now since both answers seem not to fit together and would kindly like to ask for an explanation on this last remaining topic of the incident.

Thank you in advance,

Mr. Jack Henderson, Independent Mining Guild

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' Wrote:you destroyed so many ships during your taxing run - should I rather say rampage? - that it must be hard to remember exactly which you did when

Aye! Ye not wrong there! But les get to it:

The firs fella, the USS, had the ore in his hold, now I aint quite sure how IMG defines ownership wha wi bein commies an all, but by any reckoning I know of, that makes him the possesor of the ore, no you lot. It's sketchy enough you lot claimin the ore is yers when its floatin in space, but in someone elses hold? My sposed t be bloody pshycic? Cos ye sure as hell didn tell me it were yers till after the bargy began, an if it WAS yers, why didn the USS drop it when I tol him to? So I cannea take responsiblity for THA!
Besides, I didn take it after the fella was dust, so what the hell ye bawlin for?!

2nd fella, well this has gotta be a joke right? Again, ore in his hold, we ask im for tax, (reduced rate cos hes workin with IMG) and HE destroys the ore? Are ye SERIOUS? Ye complainin to ME abou tha? Lad, yer THIS close to insultin me, summit you DONT wanna be doin.
ERCON
DESTROYED
THE
ORE

NOT THE MOLLYS

You wanna complain to someone, complain to HIM

Now considerin I didn tax the IMG drone, AND I shot down a fella that also supposedly "stole" from the IMG (Though im avin doubts bou the truth o that now) I reckon you comin to me wi this, this, feck; this rubbish! Is a bit bloody rich!

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