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Hello there,

I just had an Idea about a new faction.
Well, Rheinland already has some revolution movements, but nothing what is like my idea.

It's not finished right now, but the most important part to know is that some Rheinland Marine Officers and many titled and better living citizens want more force and dont think they can live longer with the government system existing at the moment.

But before I can go on with that there are still some questions and you maybe can help me to clear them.

1. Is it practiable at all?
I dont want to found another lolwut or wtflolgank faction, it should be all quite logically

2. Is it possible to use Rheinland Military vehicles?
As some of the members deserted from the military at least the high command should be able to use some RM ships (remember what I told before, we dont want to be a wtfcapspam faction, it would be not more than 1 or two captured GBs and some fighters).

3. Which affiliation to choose?
The monarchists would have targets not matching with factions like the Volksfront or the Red Hessians except they all dont want the Chancellor. Or would it be more wisely to do it as an official faction so they could get their own ID?

4.Could you imagine to RP as a member of this faction?
As there are many rich and influential people in this movement they think most time that they are too good for fights, so it would be much more RP.


It would be really nice if you could help me or just give me a feedback.
I'll try to write a little RP background story over the weekend and post it on sunday or so.
You can also add point which are important to discuss!

Die Elbmonarchisten

'€žDas Volk braucht einen Regenten! The government like we had to accept for centuries just ruined us over the years! They spit on our noble ancestors and their glory days! Humanity and especially our kind got a second chance, and we shall stay there and look how they waste it?! First the war against the GMG, a bunch of unorganized and incompetent miners! I'm happy about I wasn'€™t alive when this shame came over us! But that's not even the worst, now they lead us against Liberty! Not that I would say we couldn't win, of course we could! But not with the tactics they are using: Just send them to hell with an overwhelming strike force. But the problem is that we lose ground though ! And the situation inside the borders of Rheinland isn't much better, there are people spread across our territory, forming up under the flag of revolution! That's not a way to lead a glorious country like Rheinland! And everyone just does nothing and looks what will happen next?! No, not as long as I live, not as long as the noblemen still have some influence! The von Richthofens will lead Rheinland into a new era of wealthy and economic and military strength by teaching long forgotten traditions, willingly eliminated by our current government! Will you help us? Will you participate in bringing the right person up to the head of Rheinland?! I repeat: DAS VOLK BRAUCHT EINEN KAISER!!'€
This was the beginning of his last speech in front of his collaboratives somewhere on Planet New Berlin.
In this way he could already convince many of the upper class citizens. He, Manfred von Richthofen, is a real genius in talking. As only son of an old family strong connected with Rheinwehr he soon discovered his purpose in this world. In his opinion, Rheinland is getting violated by the rough hands of the so called '€œgod chancellor'€ and the national-socialist course the government follows. Well, nobody of his cooperatives says he should or would lead Rheinland less hard than it's done now, but many people realized that the country of Rheinland wont work without connections to the other houses. And especially the rich and influential citizens see (or at least believe) that there must be a separation between the normal people and the aristocrats.
Von Richthofen uses this way of thinking to unite all those who are enemies of the government. But '€œthe Elbmonarchists'€ as they call themselves, doesn'€™t act like the Volksfront or members of the Red Hessian Army, which are knowingly normal workers with not too much knowledge about war and using simple guerrilla tactics to reach there very temporally set targets. No, more likely they try to revive long lost military traditions and organize themselves well, even if it might look a bit inefficent. But so they are even with the few military spaceships deserted Military officers brought to the Monarchists very effective but still not very aggressive, because most of the titled members think they are too good for such an ordinary thing like fighting. And that's the point were the normal Rheinland citizen joins the fun. Richthofen and his followers try to win the mass of the population with propaganda about one leader, chosen by the destiny. He will bring Rheinland back to it's old glory and is able to use the full potential of the house...at least according to the half-truths he tell. And this glorious Kaiser shall be (could anyone expect anything else?) Richthofen himself. The system he wants to establish is most related to a monarchy, although the single governors chosen by him would be able to take part in the government. This organisation is a danger potential for Rheinland nobody should underestimate, although Richthofen and his men don't have much influence on the normal citizen, it's still a movement consisting of formerly Military officers and rich supporters.
But to understand the potential of the monarchists you must know their strategy. With consequent manipulation of the public they reach their target. They don't keep it a secret that in their opinion some people are simply chosen to lead and the others have to follow. But while telling them this '€œtruth'€ they give the normal citizen a feeling of security and importance. A Monarchist is always gentle, polite and follow strict rules of behavior. Although they are considered as enemies of the state within Rheinland territory, many monarchists try to live their live. They still cruise around in their big yachts and sometimes they are seen in the border worlds where they (more or less) annoy travelers with their propaganda. Of course they have a good status with the warriors of the Volksfront, but that's only to reach their target. But in comparative with the iron fist government under the flag of the chancellor they are a smaller problem.
All in all this movement still is a little point in a big galaxy, but they are motivated, not bad equipped and partially educated in political questions.

This report is written by Edward Frederick McDouglas,
Cambridge Research Institute
Planet Cambridge

To:
The minister for foreign affairs
New London

Thank you!
Well, basicaly, groups of rich people want to fund Military officers what rebeled and use tham to get control over Rheinland when Military officers fight to get traditions back.

It will mean fight again Military and RHA at once.

Still, making and leading faction is very hard, so good luck.
I'd summon Alec (The Major) for this. He had similar ideas. Also I guess the Bundschuh ID follows your idea the best. (From what you have access to)
' Wrote:I'd summon Alec (The Major) for this. He had similar ideas. Also I guess the Bundschuh ID follows your idea the best. (From what you have access to)

Bundschuh fight for more democracy, liberty, etc.

Also, after the 80 years war, the Emperor has fallen and groups like Red Hessians or Unioners were created so expect them to be hostile.

My suggestion is this movement to be an undercover group within the Military. Otherwise, everthing will be red for you and you will eventually not surive...
' Wrote:Bundschuh fight for more democracy, liberty, etc.

Also, after the 80 year war, the Emperor has fallen and groups like Red Hessians or Unioners were created so expect them to be hostile.

My suggestion is to become an undercover group within the Military. Otherwise, everthing will be red for you and you will eventually not surive...

I had more of a Bundschuh splinter group as an idea. Makes you look more political looking. Also the ID doesn't repninja you hostile to anyone. You'll be like the Hogosha if you play your cards right.

Space's idea about the RM ID is also nice.

P.S. I know the Bundies' goal is the opposite, but it's the only political-like ID for Rheinland.
The Bundschuh helped bring the old Kaiser down. There is absolutely no reason for such an faction to use the Bundschuh ID. It isn't a just a political-like ID. It is the ID of a specific party.

That said, I do find this idea nice and would like to a more detailed description.
' Wrote:Bundschuh fight for more democracy, liberty, etc.

Also, after the 80 years war, the Emperor has fallen and groups like Red Hessians or Unioners were created so expect them to be hostile.

My suggestion is this movement to be an undercover group within the Military. Otherwise, everthing will be red for you and you will eventually not surive...
It's about ID, not RP. Using Pirate or Freelancer IDs would be really silly. Well, freelancer ID could work, but in rather stupid way (like those "white army" politicians are funding their soldiers for every kill/month in service).

' Wrote:The Bundschuh helped bring the old Kaiser down. There is absolutely no reason for such an faction to use the Bundschuh ID. It isn't a just a political-like ID. It is the ID of a specific party.

That said, I do find this idea nice and would like to a more detailed description.
The Bundschuh themselves brought down corrupted goverment. I don't think they'd mind monarchy with strong, fair and liberal, to some extent, leader and efficient administrative system, economics, law, etc.

And I like this faction, but don't turn it into White Guard.
People like Ryummel (Who RP'd one of members of the Royal family) and Alec, who supported such idea, may be useful for you.

I don't think the LWB would really mind the monarchy, as long as they're agrarians.
YES, please, i am all for it.

Id use Bundschuh for it, cause currently all rheinland pirates are the same, rheinland lacks something like the Xenos or the Hogosha.
Maybe even quasi-legal, with support of Kruger Minirals (They were the bigfishes in the time of the Kaiser, and the ones that started the 80-year war).
The bundshcuh are currently redundant, cause the hessen stole their RP, and noone (ok next to noone ^^) uses the Bundschuh, and a Pro-Imperial Faction, could be just what brings fun back to Rheinland, and shoots, hessen, unioners and the police:)
Actually this may change RP of the VF allcompletely.

I'm sure DHC would express support too.
And Rheinland pirates aren't really the same, they're rarely RP'd, though.
' Wrote:YES, please, i am all for it.

Id use Bundschuh for it, cause currently all rheinland pirates are the same, rheinland lacks something like the Xenos or the Hogosha.
Maybe even quasi-legal, with support of Kruger Minirals (They were the bigfishes in the time of the Kaiser, and the ones that started the 80-year war).
The bundshcuh are currently redundant, cause the hessen stole their RP, and noone (ok next to noone ^^) uses the Bundschuh, and a Pro-Imperial Faction, could be just what brings fun back to Rheinland, and shoots, hessen, unioners and the police:)
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