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Hogosha ID - Svarog - 01-10-2012
' Wrote:And now we see those without any actual arguments to offer or points to make resort to personal attacks against BaconSoda, most likely because they don't know enough about me to point them my way.No, BaconSoda is mocking us and we gave him what he deserved
OK, Let us be clear
I don't talk just about piracy
Hogoshe are Yakuza, proud Kusari Samurai, with this Hogosha ID they are reduced to the level errand boy in Kusari or the classic pirate outside Kusari
In this way, dev tim is killing one part of spirit in this game
Hogosha ID - Ryummel - 01-10-2012
' Wrote:Hogoshe are Yakuza, proud Kusari Samurai, with this Hogosha ID they are reduced to the level errand boy in Kusari or the classic pirate outside KusariWhat are you crying about? You Avengers have been camping Leeds/Dublin and now you come with the "omg can't do nothing in Kusari" thingie? Amusing.
In this way, dev tim is killing one part of spirit in this game
Hogosha ID - AeternusDoleo - 01-10-2012
Hogosha got the same restriction the Junkers got in regards to piracy (and Unione Corse will get a similar one as well), and for the same reason:
10KM from Narita, pack of Rabas versus 5k train: "20milordai". "Noes!" *boom* *scoop 3K ore* *sell at Narita, a police base, which had that attack in sensor range*
It's a gameplay issue. Besides, the continuous open piracy inside house space should have seen Hogosha restricted to fighters by their government or shoot on sight alltogether, given the number of "incidents".
Quasilawful factions and IDs who may dock on lawful bases will NOT be able to commit open piracy inside house space. Factions who can will be repninjad bloodred to the house police. Hogosha can do piracy in any of the independent worlds bordering Kusari. Which includes the GMG gas mining grounds and the Tau mining fields, so there's plenty to occupy yourself with there. But frankly, half the hogosha who are crying here could do with a switch to the pirate ID. If your complaint is that you can't do piracy in Kusari, there's other options for you. If there's valid complaints about Hogosha roleplay being impeded we'll take those into consideration.
Hogosha ID - nakitu - 01-10-2012
' Wrote:What are you crying about? You Avengers have been camping Leeds/Dublin and now you come with the "omg can't do nothing in Kusari" thingie? Amusing.
Ryummel , no one from Avengers dont reply here so dont get involve Avengers in to this, what do Avengers its about us, we can still stay in bretonia or taus so doesnt matter for us, depend what ]bd[ do in bretonia or tau 31, or 23 ? do metagaming like usual?:D
Hog ID its what is it, we was in bretonia so we back home, what will do? maybe farming? ;) who knowes its again up to us...
Hogosha ID - Svarog - 01-10-2012
' Wrote:What are you crying about?Winner
' Wrote:Hogosha got the same restriction the Junkers got in regards to piracyI see
You made a new Junker(Hogosha) faction who is enemy with Junker faction but clone is clone,in this case bad clone
I'm out,we do not understand each other.
Hogosha ID - Domjan - 01-10-2012
' Wrote:It means no more lawful piracy. Sorry, lolwut CAU8 Ahoudoris.
This, no more pirating and Q_Q already?
If I were to rant about every hogosha that pirated me in 86 trought
Kusari I would've had probably 100 topics on the forums.
Hogosha ID - BaconSoda - 01-10-2012
' Wrote:tell me what is RP of Reaver? some proactive RP?
"you head is my pew pew ... blue msg ..." that is lame ...
But that all spoke hundred times before... so no point "Don't touch a reavers !!! :lol:
Yes, actually, being a Mercenary is a very proactive role. You see, as a Mercenary, I have to go out and actually find my targets, bait them into a position where I have the advantage, then destroy them before they can get away or call for help. I have to create the situation. I am proactive and create the RP instead of waiting for the RP to happen to me.
But to be honest, I don't think you understand anything outside the root word, so I'll define it for you:
Quote:1. tending to initiate change rather than reacting to events
I go out and make things happen that are beneficial for my character and fun on the server. Yes, the Reaver RP is proactive. Is there something wrong with this?
' Wrote:No, BaconSoda is mocking us and we gave him what he deserved
OK, Let us be clear
I don't talk just about piracy
Hogoshe are Yakuza, proud Kusari Samurai, with this Hogosha ID they are reduced to the level errand boy in Kusari or the classic pirate outside Kusari
In this way, dev tim is killing one part of spirit in this game
You're right. I'm mocking the crap out of you. And you know what? You're just taking it.
What's happening here is that you have positive memories attached to the 4.85 Hogosha ID and negative premonitions about what is happening in 4.86. Those emotions are clashing with each other and manifesting in this thread. But are you actually going to go out and see how fun the ID is in 4.86? Are you going to try and take into account what people have said and accept the possibility that you may have to change? Are you going to try to change the way you play so that you could have fun with the current ID? No. You're not. You're going to come here and complain. Why? Because you're scared. You think the fun you had in the last mod version is gone forever.
So yes. I am mocking you because I want you to get angry. I want you to be upset. I want you to take those emotions, log into your Hogosha character, and say "Darn that BaconSoda, he's such a jerk! I'm going to find his transport and pirate him with my Hogosha. Then we'll see who is upset!" and realize that you're not at all restricted. But you're not doing that. You're sitting here, angry, and typing at the keyboard as if that would solve anything, showing that IMG conspiracy that they have utterly defeated you; you're showing them that the Hogosha are completely neutered and there is nothing you can do anymore. Instead of going out to Tau-23 and taking their ore and making them live in fear in their own home, you're on the forums, powerless, pitching a fit.
So what are you going to do? Are you going to keep proclaiming to everyone that you've lost? That all the Hogosha everywhere are disbanding because of some IMG conspiracy? Or are you going to go and show them that it was better in 4.85 when they knew the Hogosha were all trapped in Kusari?
I don't really care either way. Go ahead and disband. It'll be disappointing for you, but I'll still keep playing.
Hogosha ID - varoshanin - 01-10-2012
' Wrote:This, no more pirating and Q_Q already?
If I were to rant about every hogosha that pirated me in 86 trought
Kusari I would've had probably 100 topics on the forums.
Nobody say it wouldnt be piracy, always will be piracy ... and nobody Q_Q about piracy , i see a lot poeple had marks about different IDs, they dont QQ according you just here on hogosha ID? Didnt see you there to make some point there? or you are just a troller like you always be, just troler nothing else,
@ Bacon Soda
Quote:1. tending to initiate change rather than reacting to events
Isnt change initiate here on forum? You think in game would be some change? I dont think so ..
So yes HERE on Forum is proactive work , in game is active..
Hogosha ID - BaconSoda - 01-10-2012
' Wrote:@ Bacon Soda
Isnt change initiate here on forum? You think in game would be some change? I dont think so ..
So yes HERE on Forum is proactive work , in game is active..
So the thought process is:
"They didn't think we used the ID correctly in the old version. They thought there was too much abuse of neutrality and that the playerbase wasn't responsible enough to use the neutrality wisely.
I think what will help is that instead of going on the server and showing them that we can understand where they're coming from and show them that we can be responsible enough to handle the old ID, I'm going to pitch a fit and show them that they were right. I am too immature to comprehend that perhaps I did something wrong, so I am going to point fingers at the developer who plays an IMG character and pretend that he took personal affront to my pixels stealing pixels from his pixels, exposing the evil in his heart to everyone until he is eventually forced to revert the ID back in his embarrassment."
Or am I missing something?
No, change is really not initiated here on the forum. What the authority on the server has dictated is that the Hogosha playerbase as a whole is unable to handle the responsibility of pirating in house space. This is not unique to the Hogosha because the Junkers also had this ability removed from them, as did the miners. Their opinion will not change for RP reasoning because it makes no sense for any of these groups that they cannot pirate in house space. It's not an RP decision. Their decision will not change in the face of emotions or threats because it's the internet and no one cares about these things. But what you could do is take the RP you have and take it outside and show them that though those groups are not responsible enough to pirate in house space, Hogosha really are. Staying on the forum is 100% the wrong decision in this case. The forum can do absolutely nothing for you.
But go ahead and stay if you want. I don't even play a Hogosha anymore. The only reason I'm talking is because I want you to keep having fun.
Hogosha ID - NixOlympica - 01-10-2012
Oh should the **** up finally, I led an official faction, so I should be first to QQ about this. I also saw the other IDs proposed, along with making Hogosha hostile to Kusari like Farmers.
This ID is just cool and if you can't find what to do with it, the problem is in you, not the ID itself.
Just bloody lock this, it got out of topic anyway.