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RE: The "Seriousness" level of RP these days - Treewyrm - 03-17-2014
Justin, Alley was provided with unique opportunity but instead wasted it, and that's all there is. The potential there was misused for being "squid-buddy of [LN]". Initially tolerated to an extent it just went too far, and that was not a change needed.
RE: The "Seriousness" level of RP these days - sindroms - 03-17-2014
[11:04:10] Sindroms (Spazzy): Nah, what I am saying is that I can do epic RP if I want to. There is just not many who'd appretiate it on Disco. If I did something interesting and made a character ingame, I can guarantee that people will just make a group to hunt that character down for the lulz and to be mention in the forum RP as a bunch of n-------.
[11:04:48] : okay so why would you want to do rp for someone else? do it for yourself lol. do you really need someone elses approval for your rp?
[11:05:56] Sindroms (Spazzy): Eh, if that was the case, I'd get the same satisfaction by writing RP on Word, then just sit there and look at the screen while sipping some cheap alcoholic beverage. RP involves interaction. If there is no interaction to be had, it sort of loses its meaning.
RE: The "Seriousness" level of RP these days - Treewyrm - 03-17-2014
On the subject itself - why not have both? Why does it have to be "either or" case? Are they excluding each other completely? Not really. Sure, in some specific cases you can't have both simultaneously, but that's alright, and then just have two separately, each in own time and place.
I think some people are simply mistaken and/or naive to think that any RP merits a reward, that any effort has to have guaranteed outcome. Some things work out in the end, the others don't. Sometimes it can be surprising: the ones expected to fail actually succeed, and some of those with higher degree of ambition collapse and crumble.
RE: The "Seriousness" level of RP these days - sindroms - 03-17-2014
Well, that makes sense. Though I would argue that if that was the case, the ratio between something failing and succeeding is horribly skewed and mostly because of the overall attitude.
RE: The "Seriousness" level of RP these days - Treewyrm - 03-17-2014
And what's that overall attitude, spazzy? Cause I'm not feeling it and not really affected by it. Should I change what I do and how I do it because of some ephemeral "overall attitude"? I think not. What to do with your free time is an issue or a question for each one to solve individually. It isn't a problem I have though.
RE: The "Seriousness" level of RP these days - HuggieSunrise - 03-17-2014
(03-17-2014, 09:04 AM)Durandal Wrote: and the overarching hostile response to Alley's squid roleplay which was the first thing in half a decade that would've changed the nomads, I'll never see the point of any seriously game changing roleplay again unless a vast majority of the dev and admin team agree to it prior, and I think that's pretty sad.
Alley wasn't alone in that. you realise someone was charged to take the noms in a new direction and the only way to do that was to appeal to the interest of those playing the new k'hara and those interested in seeing changes. over 6 factions had input and we went with it. Since ive been back people have been asking me will we do this again. No let me rephrase.. begging.
(03-17-2014, 09:50 AM)Treewyrm Wrote: Justin, Alley was provided with unique opportunity but instead wasted it, and that's all there is. The potential there was misused for being "squid-buddy of [LN]". Initially tolerated to an extent it just went too far, and that was not a change needed.
perhaps you remember your previous suicide note where in you dissolved your previous group after years of looming and attempting to create change by shooting down and suffocating ideas. THAT day when we picked up and went into our try it and lets see what sticks phase I made the NEW group abide strictly to a charter that each member brings new lore and new ideas to the whole. NOT JUST straight jacketed players who fill the numbers like the keepers got to be and how the Khara are getting now!
Dont you DARE talk about that storyline! you knew nothing about it! you werent THERE!
you came back and you alienated friends who were in and around you for YEARS! just to lockdown the lore to something "acceptable" in your eyes? are you serious? you do know this place is more then just your enjoyment right? that any legacies your seeing to preserve here will fizzle to DUST the moment cannon stops paying the damn bill? Who does this in a GAME? who takes this stuff Too seriously? (its on topic spazzy i swear to god) No ill correct myself legacies will die the moment we all forget them and the next infatuation comes along. which is shorter or longer depending who and what you are.
Don't think for a minute you OWN everything to do with nomads. its the servers material and the communities by right. Infact im going to leave that statement there Before you bring up anything to do with your involvement with developing the old nomad lore. YOU laid to rest all that past effort in the hope of something different and new would flourish and declared it in that suicide note above. Dont forget for a MOMENT you realised how things were run could Not persist further
and for whatever reason you think that's changed now? Is a delusion. What you did was great long ago but you squeezing and bullying the efforts we started after you left on your say so?
Its sickening.. you need to look in a damn mirror and ask yourself what changed between letting the past go yuri and corpse in a corner of the khara chat yuri today.
You think thats was a mistake? you think people becoming interested in new developments and bringing factions into strange bedfellows in an unprecedented situation that grabbed the interest of old players and new ones alike a MISTAKE?
As for the thread.
Spazzy. Too much is when we take it too seriously and make everyone in the damned room uncomfortable. like i just did here. Sure it can be personal sure it can be messy but this is a game.
we're "playing" here. any nasty tyrannical or bullying tactics personally that squelch others in their exploration of fun here should be SHOT and BURIED.
If someone is expecting Deep character development they only need to find the right crowd here. otherwise they need to realise this game is so old. and out of context for that.
that your going to get people who won't and cannot take it seriously. and thats not bad. thats just where people are right now.
However a venue such as this is more or less player driven its so diverse that anyone should be able to fit into the right group. Or do their best to create their own with great patience and perseverance.
So take a sip of whats flowing out the tap here expecting tasters choice will be shocked and appalled.
if they were paying attention. and applied a little observation and wisdom they would know not to drink from the bottom of the stream.
RE: The "Seriousness" level of RP these days - Durandal - 03-17-2014
(03-17-2014, 09:50 AM)Treewyrm Wrote: Justin, Alley was provided with unique opportunity but instead wasted it, and that's all there is. The potential there was misused for being "squid-buddy of [LN]". Initially tolerated to an extent it just went too far, and that was not a change needed.
I apologize for believing that people have a right to play their characters in a manner and faction that suits them rather than adhering to someone else's vision. Afterall Yuri, last I checked you haven't moved a finger unless it involved the squids, so you're hardly one to talk about a person focusing too much on one faction.
There is also the fact that the [LN] was/is a faction ready and willing to further the storyline of Discovery, something that not many can lay claim to considering half of community consensus was recycled "Squids shot humans in vanilla so that's all they can do forever!" garbage. I'm not saying there weren't any other factions willing to roleplay, but the [LN] extended their hand and she took it. You cannot fault anyone for doing that.
Also, apologies for leaving you out of my post Huggie, edited it.
RE: The "Seriousness" level of RP these days - Sabru - 03-17-2014
well this thread escalated quickly..... o.O :O
RE: The "Seriousness" level of RP these days - Enkidu - 03-17-2014
I will assume (probably incorrectly) that the contact involved was Ed, due to the use of "penetrate" for insertion's sake.
What exactly constitutes this illusive "elite", which just allegedly laughs at people? Disco commonly involves a major degree of mutual dart-throwing.
The crux is gameplay V Rp. Some people Rp-walls galore, some credits galore, and some blues galore, with every value in-between those extremes on the triangle.
Compare Conrad and Stern or Henderson and Omicega. Very different players, who enjoy the game and the forum periphery through differing forms of expression
RE: The "Seriousness" level of RP these days - Treewyrm - 03-17-2014
Yes, Huggie, I do think it was a mistake. And I do know what was going on, people were quite eager to fill me up on what happened, provided chat logs and so forth.
And may be it was also a mistake to let you have an easy way of merely changing a faction name instead of reapplying whole thing from ground up. Forgetting that now, are you? Huggie, you've been begging not to shut it down completely as you knew your chances were zero were you to start anew. Okay, it was granted, and so you had a run with it, but then you quit it yourself leaving Nos there, people moved on and eventually it came back full circle and here I am, after all it was khara members who asked me to come back to disco. So who gave up on what then? But sure, instead of talking you now simply resort to delete a contact from Skype, as if that solves anything. Well, so much for overreactions.
(03-17-2014, 11:27 AM)Durandal Wrote: Afterall Yuri, last I checked you haven't moved a finger unless it involved the squids, so you're hardly one to talk about a person focusing too much on one faction.I was always considered to be a one-faction person, and I had never denied that. However I do work for other factions from time to time, I just don't emphasize publicly on that much.
Also I was always a tyrant when it comes to a faction/guild control. Again, it is something I had never denied and never claimed to be anything other. Attempting to invoke some sense of guilt about this isn't going to work.
Bottom line is that Alley had a run with it, and while initially interesting and promising it went too far. Khara members were growing tired of that and so they brought me back. I did what I think was right to do given the circumstances. I stand by decisions made. They aren't to please everyone.