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Generic Mining Frigate - Switchback - 10-11-2011
remove the forward cannons and it looks like a huge cargo transport.
a Barge/Liner hybrid?
Generic Mining Frigate - Hades - 10-11-2011
' Wrote:Dude it's gigantic and BS sized. I've told you this already. >_>Scaling down is only a matter of changing some details to make it look smaller.
It is not a small ship. Basically what Jinx said.
Generic Mining Frigate - jammi - 10-11-2011
You'd need to remodel a lot of the cosmetic features, like the windows and some of the other details in order to be able to scale it down. If you just hit it with a shrink-ray, it'd look silly. Micro-sized windows would be one point, as Jinx noted.
In any case, I think you're going to have severe trouble getting this model into Discovery. It's a seriously sexy mesh, but the problem lies in the fact it doesn't fit into any of the standing ship lines and it appears to be capital sized. Rescaling and editing it won't change the fact it looks like a capital ship, because that's what you designed it to be.
Generic capital ships over the size of gunboats probably won't ever be included. It doesn't look Zoner or IMG (going off Jinx and Doom's styles) and they're as close to generic capitals as you're going to get (i.e Corvo). It doesn't fit into any of the House military lines either, and the unlawfuls tend to have a distinct style too (Corsairs, Outcasts, Hessians, Rogues/Mollys, etc).
The fact it looks so generic is basically shooting itself in the foot, when it comes to Discovery.
Generic Mining Frigate - Lunaphase - 10-12-2011
Why not make it a open-use 5k? Slow speed but battleship armor/manuver, no thruster, basically a moving refinery. Would prevent abuse, and enable it to be appropriately sized. Give it a heavy gb plant, 4 gb gun slots and the rest transport guns, strong defence (possibly cruiser sheild due to its size, or even bs) but no CD or CM. it seriously looks industrial. The model is good and frankly, looks like a good borderworld industrial ship. BW series transport perhaps, big brother to bwt?
Generic Mining Frigate - DarthBindo - 10-12-2011
Interspace would love to help push this model through, regardless of it's balance, as our previously contracted modeller is a bloody sellout who sold his soul, and our models, to the highest bidder.
This is exactly the style i have always imagined for any possible Interspace line.
now what's the price for your soul?:)
Generic Mining Frigate - Hades - 10-12-2011
' Wrote:-snip-Anything constructive in the least bit? No? K then, there's the door, use it.
As to Jammi, of course. That's what I meant by changing some details. There's also plenty of people who don't see it as some sort of warship, it's a matter of perspective. Fun fact as well, years ago, I had this similar piece of concept art, which I was going to try to replicate as a mining vessel, and it's actually quite still similar to my mesh, but only in vague shape.
Generic Mining Frigate - fencore - 10-12-2011
This ain't Flood. If you don't have something to add to the discussion, don't post.
Generic Mining Frigate - Ipuvaepe - 10-12-2011
That was constructive. The entirety of the merit of this idea was already discussed.
And Lunaphase, did you just say it should be a slow 5k with a heavy GB plant, 4 GB and transport turrets, battleship armor, and cruiser/battleship shield?
No transport should ever have 2 of those, and no 5k should ever have 1 of those. It would completely destroy any attempt at trader balance? "lolnoItiredofpierat so battleshipstrong5kpl0x?"
No, just no.
I do like the model though. Maybe it could be that Researcher mining vessel that was being discussed recently. Its tight sleek yet functional look looks to suit it well. The Researcher ID can already use the Salvager, so there would be really no balance issues in it being a frigate. Given that it is more technologically advanced and the change wouldn't affect balance, maybe even a gunboat shield too?
Generic Mining Frigate - Hades - 10-12-2011
' Wrote:That was constructive. The entirety of the merit of this idea was already discussed.Nop. Considering that idea has hence been scrapped, and not being discussed here...
The point of this thread is simple: braintstorming. What's a role that needs filling or could use some variety, and where could it fit in? It's pretty vastly different than the other thread.
Generic Mining Frigate - Ipuvaepe - 10-12-2011
' Wrote:Nop. Considering that idea has hence been scrapped, and not being discussed here...It's actually not. It has a couple different points, but is otherwise identical.
The point of this thread is simple: braintstorming. What's a role that needs filling or could use some variety, and where could it fit in? It's pretty vastly different than the other thread.